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Could I have help translating the sentence in pink? I can not read, it's too little
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Hi. This is probably my third attempt at this. Now it seems to be successful. But I may have missread something. It's quite challenging a text. The tranlsation may as well be flawed.

Ñ ñîõðàíåíèåì â òå÷åíèå 1 ãîäà íà îñíîâàíèè ïðåäïèñàíèÿ Ã.Ø**. îò 4 ìàÿ 1879 ãîäà ïîä ¹ 4871, æàëîâàíèÿ ïî ÷èíó êâàðòèðíîãî è äåíåæíîãî äîâîëüñòâèÿ ïî ïîëîæåíèþ.

Translation:
Keeping during one year under the prescription of G.S.** from May 4th, 1879, under # 4871, the rank-based allotment, lodging and monetary allowance based on the status.

** Ãåíåðàëüíîãî øòàáà? – the General Staff?

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Thanks for your reply. I didn't see that anyone tried to translate. So he was kept for a year before he could retire.
It's cool, with all the documents I had I was able to know the life of Grigory Nechaev in detail. The only thing missing is the end of his life after his retirement. But I discovered a lot of things
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FuranNietchaieff

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I found a new document in Cyrillic. It's the marriage certificate of Pinches FRYDLENDER and Sura Dwora. I would like if possible to obtain a translation of the essential information. In particular that concerning the FYRDLENDER family, if there are places mentioned etc.
https://www.szukajwarchiwach.g...ka_cur=205

Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: Mariage Pinches frydlender et Sura Dwora.jpg
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Nevermind, I got a translation. It seems correct and sufficient for me to continue my research on Moshek Szimon Frydlender

City of Warsaw, Civil Registry Service for Non-Christians. Marriage celebrated by Rabbi Menachem-Szachna RYCZIWOL, between the widower Pinches FRYDLENDER, 57 years old, merchant, residing in Warsaw n° 391, son of Moshek-Szimon and his wife Ruchla surname unknown, and the widow Sura Dwojra GRUNDGAPD née KON, 40 years old, merchant, residing in Warsaw building n° 1994, daughter of Abram and his wife Chawa née EJBUSZIC (?), in the presence of witnesses Tobiasz LENEMAN, 44 years old, student, residing in building n° 1970, and Izraël CEBERBAUM, 56 years old, receiver, residing in building n° 301 Panski Street, in Warsaw, who declared to us that, on 31 December / 13 January 1908 / 1909, after publication of the banns On December 6, 13 and 20, their religious marriage was celebrated, without any opposition. The newlyweds stated that a marriage contract was made today before a notary in Warsaw: Mr. FEDOROWICZ-WICHROWSKI, No. 3903
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Hello,

I found the marriage record of Konstantin Mikhailov Nietchaieff. The reading is somewhat difficult. Could I please have a complete translation for each section?

ß íàø¸ë çàïèñü î áðàêå Êîíñòàíòèíà Ìèõàéëîâà Íå÷àåâà. ×òåíèå íåìíîãî çàòðóäíåíî. Íå ìîãëè áû âû, ïîæàëóéñòà, ñäåëàòü ïîëíûé ïåðåâîä äëÿ êàæäîé ãðàôû?

Marriage of Konstantin and Pelagiya

From what I understand: Konstantin Mikhailov Nechaev, typographer at the Imperial University of Moscow. First marriage. Age 23.
Pelagia is also 23, but I don't understand any more than that.
Among the witnesses, I see her father and her brother from the same university, but I don't understand the others.

Íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíèìàþ: Êîíñòàíòèí Ìèõàéëîâ Íå÷àåâ, òèïîãðàô Èìïåðàòîðñêîãî Ìîñêîâñêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà. Ïåðâûé áðàê. 23 ãîäà.
Ïåëàãåå òîæå 23 ãîäà, íî áîëüøå ÿ íè÷åãî íå ïîíèìàþ.
Ñðåäè ñâèäåòåëåé ÿ âèæó å¸ îòöà è áðàòà èç òîãî æå óíèâåðñèòåòà, íî îñòàëüíûõ íå ïîíèìàþ.
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Hello,
Here is the translation of the record you requested.

Æåíèõ:
Èìïåðàòîðñêîãî Ìîñêîâñêîãî Óíèâåðñèòåòà Òèïîãðàôèè Òåñåìùåê? Êîíñòàíòèí Ìèõàéëîâ Íå÷àåâ, ïðàâîñëàâíîãî èñïîâåäàíèÿ, ïåðâûì áðàêîì, 23 ãîäà

Groom:
Konstantin Mikhailov Nechaev, of the Imperial Moscow University Printing House, [occupation uncertain — likely tesemshchik, a worker handling ribbons or bindings], of the Orthodox faith, first marriage, aged 23.

Íåâåñòà:
Ìîñêîâñêàÿ ìåùàíêà Ñëîáîäû Êîæåâíè÷åñêîé äåâèöà Ïåëàãèÿ Èâàíîâà, ïðàâîñëàâíîãî èñïîâåäàíèÿ, 23 ãîäà

Bride:
Moscow burgher from the Kozhevnicheskaya Sloboda, maiden Pelagia Ivanova, of the Orthodox faith, aged 23.

Ïîðó÷èòåëè:

Sponsors (Witnesses):

Ïî æåíèõó:
Îòåö åãî ðîäíîé Ìîñêîâñêîãî Óíèâåðñèòåòà Òèïîãðàôèè îòñòàâíîé Òåðåäîðùèê Ìèõàèë Âàñèëüåâ Íå÷àåâ; áðàò åãî ðîäíîé òîé æå òèïîãðàôèè Íàáîðùèê Ñòåôàí Ìèõàéëîâ Íå÷àåâ

For the groom:
His father, Mikhail Vasilyev Nechaev, retired teredorshchik (press operator) of the Moscow University Printing House;
his brother, Stefan Mikhailov Nechaev, typesetter at the same printing house.

Ïî íåâåñòå:
Ìàòü åãî ðîäíàÿ ìîñêîâñêàÿ ìåùàíêà âäîâà Àãðèïèíà Ïåòðîâà; Ìîñêîâñêèé ìåùàíèí Íèêîëàé Ôåîäîðîâ

Her mother, Agripina Petrova, Moscow burgher, widow;
Moscow burgher Nikolai Feodorov.
(Note: the Russian text literally says “his mother,” but this is probably a scribal error. The woman is identified as a widow, while the groom’s father is already named above as living (“retired press operator”); therefore, the text should refer to the bride’s mother, not the groom’s.)
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FuranNietchaieff

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Thank you very much, this is very thorough. It's a pity not to have the bride's last name in a context like this. Fortunately, she's not my ancestor.
I found another marriage for the year 1826 where Mikhail and his son Ivan are witnesses. If I understand correctly, it concerns Dmitri Vasiliev and Anna Tikhomirova, Ivan’s maternal aunt.
If possible, I would also need a translation for this record.

Áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî, ýòî î÷åíü ïîäðîáíî. Æàëü, ÷òî â òàêîì êîíòåêñòå íåò ôàìèëèè íåâåñòû. Ê ñ÷àñòüþ, ÿ íå çàíèìàþñü å¸ ïîèñêàìè.
ß íàø¸ë åù¸ îäèí áðàê çà 1826 ãîä, ãäå Ìèõàèë è åãî ñûí Èâàí ÿâëÿþòñÿ ñâèäåòåëÿìè. Åñëè ÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíèìàþ, ýòî êàñàåòñÿ Äìèòðèÿ Âàñèëüåâà è Àííû Òèõîìèðîâîé, ò¸òè Èâàíà ïî ìàòåðè.
Åñëè âîçìîæíî, ìíå òàêæå íóæíà ïåðåâîä ýòîãî äîêóìåíòà.

marriage 1826
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>> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ FuranNietchaieff îò 21 îêòÿáðÿ 2025 0:08

Æåíèëñÿ Ìîñêîâñêîãî Èìïåðàòîðñêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà Áàòûðùèê Äèìèòðèé Âàñèëüåâ, Ïåðâûì áðàêîì, Ïîíÿë çà ñåáÿ Îíîé æå Òèïîãðàôèè áàòûðùèêà Âàñèëèÿ Èâàíîâà ñûíà Òèõîìèðîâà äî÷ü äåâèöó Àííó Âàñèëüåâó

Married:
Dimitry Vasiliev, batyrshchik (press worker) of the Imperial Moscow University, in his first marriage, took as his wife Anna Vasilieva, maiden, daughter of Vasily Ivanov son Tikhomirov, also a batyrshchik of the same printing house.

Ïîðó÷èòåëÿìè áûëè Ãóáåðíñêèé Ñåêðåòàðü Àëåêñèé Âàñèëüåâ ñûí Áåðñåíåâ; Ìîñêîâñêîé Ãèìíàçèè ó÷åíèê Èâàí Íå÷àåâ; îçíà÷åííîé Òèïîãðàôèè Òåðåäîðùèê Ìèõàèëî Íå÷àåâ

The sponsors (witnesses) were:
Alexey Vasiliev son Bersenev, Gubernial Secretary;
Ivan Nechaev, student of the Moscow Gymnasium;
and Mikhailo Nechaev, teredorshchik of the same printing house.
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Áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî!
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I found the death certificate of Mikhail Nechaev. To be sure, is he buried in the Miousskoïe Cemetery?

ß íàø¸ë ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ñìåðòè Ìèõàèëà Íå÷àåâà. Óòî÷íþ, ïîõîðîíåí ëè îí â Ìèóññêîå êëàäáèùå

Death Mikhail Nechaev
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