NathalieÍåäàâíî ïðîñìàòðèâàëà çàïèñè Ëþòåðàíñêîé öåðêâè Ñàìàðñêîé äóõîâíîé êîíñèñòîðèè.
Ìîãó ñêàçàòü, ÷òî â êíèãàõ
èíôîðìàöèè Î×ÅÍÜ ìàëî.
Ðîæäåíèÿ - äàòà (íå âåçäå), òàì æå, ãäå äàòà çàãàäî÷íîå ãåîãðàôè÷åñêîå íàçâàíèå (ïîäîçðåâàþ âñå-òàêè, ÷òî ýòî ìåñòî - â äàííîì ñëó÷àå ðîæäåíèÿ, ò.ê. âñòðå÷àþòñÿ, ïîìèìî Ñàìàðñêîé ãóáåðíèè, Ðèãà, Àñòðàõàíü, Ìîñêâà, Ïåòðîãðàä, Ôðàíêôóðò-íà-Îäåðå, Êèåâ è ò.ä.), â ñâåäåíèÿõ î ðîäèòåëÿõ - ôàìèëèÿ, èìåíà îòöà è ìàòåðè (òîæå íå âñåãäà).
Ïðèêëàäûâûàþ èìåþùèéñÿ ó ìåíÿ ñêàí êîïèè çàïèñåé î ðîæäåíèè çà 1875 ãîä. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, èç-çà óìåíüøåíèÿ ñèëüíî òåðÿåòñÿ êà÷åñòâî. Ëó÷øå ó ìåíÿ íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ
Íà ýòîì ïðèìåðå âèäíî. Çàïèñåé âñåãî 10. Èç íèõ
â ïÿòè !!! íåò èìåí íè îòöà, íè ìàòåðè. À èç ïÿòè îñòàâøèõñÿ èìåíà æåí åñòü
òîëüêî â äâóõ çàïèñÿõ.
Áðàêîñî÷åòàíèÿ. Äàòà è èíîãäà ìåñòî. Ñâåäåíèÿ î âñòóïàþùåì (âñòóïàþùåé) â áðàê - îòêóäà ðîäîì (äàëåêî íå âñåãäà), èìÿ, ôàìèëèÿ (èíîãäà îò÷åñòâî). Î÷åíü ÷àñòî ôàìèëèÿ æåíû íå óêàçàíà. Èíîãäà è èìåí íåò
, à íàïèñàíî "æåíà ðóññêàÿ".
Ñìåðòè. Âïëîòü äî 1914-15 ãã. âîîáùå íå óêàçûâàëñÿ âîçðàñò óìåðøåãî. Òî åñòü, êòî ýòî - ìëàäåíåö èëè ñòàðûé ÷åëîâåê, ïîíÿòü íåâîçìîæíî. Ñîáñòâåííî óêàçûâàåòñÿ äàòà, ôàìèëèÿ è èìÿ.
Êñòàòè, äîëæíà Âàñ, âèäèìî, îáðàäîâàòü
. Âû íàïèñàëè â ñâîåì ñîîáùåíèè
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ìèêðîôèëüìû, èçãîòîâëåííûå LDS Family History Library [/q]
Äóìàþ, ÷òî ýòî íè ÷òî èíîå, êàê ìîðìîíîâñêàÿ áàçà ìèêðîôèëüìîâ. Åñëè îíè ñêîïèðîâàëè ýòè äàííûå, çíà÷èò â êàêîì-òî àðõèâå ýòè äàííûå ïðèñóòñòâóþò.
Âîò, íàøëà:
The Lutherans of Russia : parish index to the church books of the Evangelical Lutheran Consistory of St. Petersburg, 1833-1885. by Thomas Kent Edlund
Format Books/Monographs (With Fiche)
Language English
Publication St. Paul [Minnesota] : Germanic Genealogical Society, c1994
Physical xvii, 370 p. : ill., map.
ISBN/ISSN 0964433710
Notes. The index describes contents of Lutheran parish register transcripts (1833-1885) for the following provinces of Imperial Russia: Archangelsk, Bessarabia,
Chernigov, Cherson, Jaroslavl, Jekaterinoslav, Kiev, Kostroma, Novgorod, Olonets, Podolia, Poltava, Pskov, Smolensk, St. Petersburg, Taurida, Volhynia and Vologda. Detailed entries provide access to both original manuscripts and later preservation microfilming. Appendices provide cross- referencing from cyrillic to Roman alphabet. Includes instructions for use and a brief history of Luthern Church development in Russia.
Subjects: Russia - Church records - Inventories, registers, catalogs
Registers of births, etc. - Russia - Indexes
Germans - Russia - Church records and registers
Òîëüêî íå ìîãó ðàçîáðàòüñÿ, ãäå ýòî âñå ó íàñ-òî íàõîäèòñÿ?!? Òî, ÷òî åñòü â Ñîëò-Ëåéê-Ñèòè - ýòî ïîíÿòíî. Êàê áû ýòî âñå íå îêàçàëîñü â Ãåðìàíñêîì ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîì îáùåñòâå â Ìèííåñîòå? Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî îáû÷íî â ãðàôå Notes óêàçûâàåòñÿ àðõèâ, â êîòîðîì íàõîäèòñÿ îðèãèíàë, à òóò íèêàêèõ óêàçàíèé íåò. Äà è âîîáùå ïîõîæå, ÷òî ýòî íå ìèêðîôèëüìû, à êîïèè êíèã.
È íàøëà âîò åùå ÷òî (ïîõîæå íà ïðåäûäóùèé èñòî÷íèê, íî âñå-òàêè ïî-äðóãîìó íàïèñàíî):
Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1833-1885
Evangelische Kirche.
Konsistorium Petersburg (Ru?land)
Notes These records are indexed in: The Lutherans of Russia: parish index to the church books of the Evangelical Lutheran Consistory of St. Petersburg, 1833-1885, vol. 1 / by Thomas Kent Edlund.
Bishops' transcripts (births, marriages, deaths) for the Evangelical-Lutheran Consistory of St. Petersburg: includes the provinces of Bessarabia,
Chernigov, the Don Cossacks, Kiev, Kherson, Kostroma, Novgorod, Olonets, Podolia, Poltava, Pskov, Saint Petersburg, Smolensk, Stavropol, Tavrida, Volhynia, Yaroslavl, and Yekaterrinoslav. Text in German and Russian.
Ïðè÷åì èíôîðìàöèÿ ñ 1833 ãîäà è íà
135 ìèêðîôèëüìàõ!!! Ýòî Î×ÅÍÜ ìíîãî. Íî åñòü ëè ýòè êíèãè â Ðîññèè ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ.
Äóìàþ, ÷òî â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãñêîì àðõèâå îòâåòÿò íà ýòîò âîïðîñ, ãäå çàïèñè Åâàíãåëè÷åñêî-ëþòåðàíñêîé êîíñèñòîðèè Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãà.
Ïîñìîòðèòå âëîæåííóþ ñòðàíè÷êó - òàì î÷åíü ìíîãî èñòî÷íèêîâ ïî ëþòåðàíàì. Îé, îäèí ôàéë ÿ óæå âëîæèëà
, òàê ÷òî ñëåäóþùèì ïèñüìîì. Äóìàþ, ÷òî ìíîãèì ýòà èíôîðìàöèÿ ïîìîæåò.
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