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Íàðèñóéòå ñâîå äðåâî. Áåñïëàòíî. Îíëàéí.   [õ]
Âñåðîññèéñêîå Ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîå Äðåâî
Íà ñàéòå ÂÃÄ ñîáèðàþòñÿ ëþäè, óâëå÷åííûå ãåíåàëîãèåé, èñòîðèåé, ãåðàëüäèêîé è ò.ä. Çäåñü âû íàéäåòå ñîáåñåäíèêîâ, ýêñïåðòîâ, óìåëûõ ïîìîùíèêîâ â ïîèñêàõ ïðåäêîâ è ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Âàì ïîäñêàæóò ãäå èñêàòü äîêóìåíòû î ïàâøèõ â áîÿõ è ïðîïàâøèõ áåç âåñòè, â êàêîé àðõèâ îáðàòèòüñÿ ïðè èññëåäîâàíèè ðîäîñëîâíîé ñâîåé ñåìüè, ïîìîãóò îïðåäåëèòü ïî ñòàðîé ôîòîãðàôèè ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ê âîèíñêèì ÷àñòÿì, âåäîìñòâàì è ÷èíó. ÂÃÄ - ïîèñê ëþäåé â ïðîøëîì, íàñòîÿùåì è áóäóùåì!
Âíèç ⇊
Ê ÷èòàòåëÿì õàðáèíñêèõ òåì Äíåâíèêà Gul!

Ïîæàëóéñòà, áóäüòå âíèìàòåëüíû!

1. Äëÿ âñåõ âîïðîñîâ ïî ïîèñêó ñâåäåíèé î õàðáèíöàõ åñòü ñïåöèàëüíàÿ òåìà Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î õàðáèíöàõ

https://forum.vgd.ru/post/614/50305/

:ex: Ïîýòîìó íå ñëåäóåò ïèñàòü ìíå â Ëè÷íîå (Ïèñüìà).  ýòîé òåìå Âàì ìîãóò ïîìî÷ü-ïîäñêàçàòü è äðóãèå ôîðóì÷àíå, à íå òîëüêî ÿ.

 ñîîáùåíèÿõ ýòîé òåìû Âû ìîæåòå íàéòè è ïîäñêàçêè, è îòâåòû íà ñâîè âîïðîñû. Íàáåðèòåñü òåðïåíèÿ, ïðîñìîòðèòå ñîîáùåíèÿ.
:ex: Â êàæäîé òåìå åñòü îïöèÿ Ïîèñê, âîñïîëüçóéòåñü åþ

2.  ïåðâîì ñîîáùåíèè ýòîé òåìû óêàçàíû âñå õàðáèíñêèå òåìû è äîñòóïíûå Âàì èñòî÷íèêè äëÿ ýòîãî ïîèñêà

https://forum.vgd.ru/post/614/50305/p1457314.htm#pp1457314

Èñòî÷íèêè äëÿ ïîèñêà óêàçàíû è çäåñü

https://forum.vgd.ru/post/614/39480/p1053159.htm#pp1053159

:ex: Ïðåæäå ÷åì çàäàòü ñâîè âîïðîñû, çàãëÿíèòå â ýòè èñòî÷íèêè
Ïðîâåðüòå íàëè÷èå â íèõ íóæíûõ Âàì ôàìèëèé... -- ýòî íåñëîæíî, íî âðåìÿ ïðèäåòñÿ çàòðàòèòü..

3. :ex: Îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå, ÷òî ñðåäè õàðáèíñêèõ òåì Äíåâíèêà ( à èõ 18) åñòü òåìû, ïîëíîñòüþ ïîñâÿùåííûå è ñïèñêàì ïîôàìèëüíûì, è íåêðîëîãàì õàðáèíöåâ.
Òàì Âû òîæå ìîæåòå íàéòè íóæíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ!

4 . :ex: Åñëè Âû çàèìñòâóåòå ìàòåðèàë èç òåìû Ðóññêèé Õàðáèí ( èëè äð. õàðáèíñêèõ òåì), ïîæàëóéñòà, äåëàéòå ññûëêó íà èñòî÷íèê:
Äíåâíèê Gul Ðóññêèé Õàðáèí https://forum.vgd.ru/614/31743/
Äëÿ cñûëêè íà êîíêðåòíîå ñîîáùåíèå: íàæìèòå íà çíàê ðåøåòêè â ïðàâîì âåðõíåì óãëó íóæíîãî Âàì ñîîáùåíèÿ-- ïîëó÷èòå íóæíóþ ññûëêó

Èç-çà íå÷åñòíûõ äåéñòâèé íåêîòîðûõ áëîãåðîâ (:ex:îñîáåííî humus
) ìíå ïðèøëîñü çàùèòèòü èëëþñòðàòèâíûé ðÿä (ôîòî, âûðåçêè èç ãàçåò è æóðíàëîâ...) â ñâîèõ ñîîáùåíèÿõ
âîò òàêîé ìåòêîé:

Äíåâíèê Gul Ðóññêèé Õàðáèí

Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î õàðáèíöàõ

Òåìà äëÿ âîïðîñîâ ïî ïîèñêó...
Search of information about former Harbiners

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Ìîäåðàòîð: Gul
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Íîâè÷îê

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:ex: Êîììåíòàðèé ìîäåðàòîðà GUL :ex:

Ýòà òåìà-- â ïîìîùü òåì, êòî âåäåò ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíûé ïîèñê õàðáèíöåâ

Õàðáèíñêèå òåìû â äíåâíèêå GUL

Ðóññêèé Õàðáèí

Àðõèâíûå è äð. èñòî÷.--òåìû Ðóññêèé Õàðáèí,Àðåñòó ïîäëåæàò

Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î õàðáèíöàõ

Âåñü Õàðáèí 1925--1926

Ýìèãðàöèÿ èç Õàðáèíà

«Àðåñòó ïîäëåæàò âñå õàðáèíöû...»

ÊÂÆÄ ----- ñòàíöèè è ó÷àñòêè

Cïèñêè õàðáèíöåâ è æèòåëåé ñòàíöèé ÊÂÆÄ :ex:


Ïðîåêò Ìåìîðèàëà íà êëàäáèùå Õóàíøàíü Õàðáèí

Íåêðîëîãè, îïóáëèêîâàííûå â õàðáèíñêèõ ãàçåòàõ

Íàó÷íî-ïðàêòè÷åñêàÿ êîíôåðåíöèÿ, ïîñâÿùåííàÿ 120-ëåòèþ Õàðáèíà.. 2018

Âñåìèðíûé êîíãðåññ âûõîäöåâ èç Õàðáèíà 2017

Ñïèñîê ñëóæàùèõ ÊÂÆÄ 1903-1913

Ñïèñêè ïîôàìèëüíûå óåçæàþùèõ â ÑÑÑÐ ïîñëå ïðîäàæè ÊÂÆÄ â 1935 (ïî äàòàì è ýøåëîíàì)





:ex: Êîììåíòàðèé ìîäåðàòîðà Gul :ex:


ÂÍÈÌÀÍÈÅ!

ÈÑÒÎ×ÍÈÊÈ


Òåì, êòî âåäåò ïîèñê õàðáèíöåâ



1. Ðóññêèå â Êèòàå. Ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêèé èíäåêñ (1926-- 1946) Ïîôàìèëüíûé èíäåêñ

Åñëè íàøëè íóæíóþ ôàìèëèþ, ñì. åå èñòî÷íèê--- ôîíä ÁÐÝÌ, ÐÃÈÀ ÑÏá, ñïðàâî÷íèê Âåñü Õàðáèí 1926 è ò.ä.


2. ÐÃÈÀ ÑÏá ôîíä 323 îï. 9-- ïåðñîíàëüíûå äåëà ñëóæàùèõ ÊÂÆÄ


3.Ôîíä ÁÐÝÌ--- êàðòîòåêà Áþðî ðîññèéñêîé ýìèãðàöèè â Ìàíü÷æóðèè

4.Ñïðàâî÷íèêè Âåñü Õàðáèí 1925 è 1926çàäàòü âîïðîñ


5. Ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè ïðàâîñëàâíûõ öåðêâåé Õàðáèíà è ñò. ÊÂÆÄ äî 1922 ã--- çàïðîñ â ÐÃÈÀ Ä (Âëàäèâîñòîê)


6. Ñïèñêè ýìèãðèðîâàâøèõ èç Õàðáèíà ñì. â òåìå Ýìèãðàöèÿ èç Õàðáèíà

7. Cïèñêè õàðáèíöåâ è æèòåëåé ñòàíöèé ÊÂÆÄ


8.Íåêðîëîãè, îïóáëèêîâàííûå â õàðáèíñêèõ ãàçåòàõ

9. Ñïèñêè ðåïðåññèðîâàííûõ õàðáèíöåâ--- ñì. òåìó Àðåñòó ïîäëåæàò âñå õàðáèíöû

10. Àëôàâèòíûé óêàçàòåëü ê Ñïðàâî÷íîé êíèæêå ïî ëè÷íîìó ñîñòàâó ñëóæàùèõ ÊÂÆÄ 1917 ã.

11. Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ñîñò. ×óâàêîâ
12. Áàçà äàííûõ Ó÷àñòíèêè Áåëîãî äâèæåíèÿ â Ðîññèè Âîëêîâà


13. Ó÷åòíûå êàðòî÷êè ðîññèéñêèõ ýìèãðàíòîâ Øàíõàéñêîé ìóíèöèïàëüíîé ïîëèöèè. Àðõèâ ÑØÀ



14. Ñïèñêè ñëóæàùèõ ÊÂÆÄ 1903-1913

15. Êòî åäåò â Ñîâåòñêèé Ñîþç... Õàðáèí. Àïðåëü--èþëü 1935
Ñïèñêè óåçæàþùèõ â ÑÑÑÐ ïîñëå ïðîäàæè ÊÂÆÄ (ñïèñêè ïî äàòàì îòúåçäà è ýøåëîíàì)



16. Ðîññèéñêèå çàõîðîíåíèÿ â Êèòàå
Àëôàâèòíûé ñïèñîê


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Ëàéê (7)
Gul
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà

Gul

Ñîîáùåíèé: 14529
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 44484

mffaria íàïèñàë:
[q]
Ìîæíî ëè ðàñøèôðîâàòü ñîêðàùåíèÿ «Àê. Àâêñåíò.» è «ñë. ÄÍ ÊÂÆÄ» â çàïèñè ñïðàâî÷íèêà?
[/q]


Âåðîÿòíî, Àêàêèé Àâêñåíòüåâè÷....
Ñëóæàùèé Âîñòî÷íîãî îòäåëåíèÿ Ñëóæáû ýêñïëóàòàöèè

Âàì íóæíî äîæäàòüñÿ îòâåòà èç àðõèâà.
Íî ýòî î÷åíü äîëãî... Èëè íàéòè âîëîíòåðà
Íàñûùåííîñòü ëè÷íûõ äåë äîêóìåíòàìè ðàçíàÿ...

Âåðîÿòíî, âûåõàë â ÑÑÑÐ ïîñëå ïðîäàæè ÊÂÆÄ â 1935
Âíèìàòåëüíî ïîñìîòðèòå òåìó

https://forum.vgd.ru/614/166741/



cnyazkina1947
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

Ñîîáùåíèé: 327
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ïðîøó ñïåöèàëèñòîâ ïî ýìèãðàöèè ïîìî÷ü íàéòè â ñïèñêàõ Óâàðîâà Ëóêó Ìàêàðîâè÷à,1871 ãð.  íîÿáðå 1918 ã óøåë â Áåëîé ãâàðäèåé íà Âîñòîê. Äîáðîâîëüíî óøåë èëè óãíàí áûë íàñèëüíî, òàê êàê áûë íà÷àëüíèêîì æ/ä ñòàíöèè Áóçóëóê, íèêòî èç ïîòîìêîâ íå çíàåò. Íî äîìîé îí íå âåðíóëñÿ è âåñòåé îò íåãî íå áûëî. Áëàãîäàðþ âñåõ, êòî îòêëèêíåòñÿ. Ñ óâàæåíèåì Âàëåíòèíà Ïåòðîâíà. .ã ÑÏÁ .11.11.2026ã
Ýòà òåìà áûëà âûäåëåíà èç òåìû "Ýìèãðàöèÿ èç Õàðáèíà " (12 íîÿáðÿ 2026 10:28)
Gul
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà

Gul

Ñîîáùåíèé: 14529
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cnyazkina1947

Âåðîÿòíî, óøåë äîáðîâîëüíî ñ îòñòóïàþùèìè èç Áóçóëóêà ÷àñòÿìè ×åõîñëîâàöêîãî êîðïóñà è áåëûìè (êàçàêè àòàìàíà Äóòîâà).
Îíè âëàäåëè ãîðîäîì ñ èþëÿ ïî íîÿáðü 1918
Îòñòóïàþùèå ÷åõè ïðîäâèãàëèñü ýøåëîíàìè íà Äàëüíèé Âîñòîê, îòòóäà ïðåäïîëàãàëè ìîðñêèì ïóòåì
äîáðàòüñÿ äî Ôðàíöèè... Æåëåçíîäîðîæíèêè èì áûëè íóæíû, êîíå÷íî.
 àðõèâàõ è Èíòåðíåòå åñòü ìàòåðèàëû îá ýòîì ïåðèîäå Áóçóëóêà

À äàëåå âåðñèè:

Ìîã ïîãèáíóòü íà ïðîñòîðàõ Ñèáèðè è Ä çà âðåìÿ. Øëè áîè. Ìåíÿëàñü ïîëèòè÷åñêàÿ è âîåííàÿ îáñòàíîâêà.
Ìîã îñåñòü ãäå-òî ïî ïóòè íà ïîñåëåíèå
Ìîã ñ ÷åõàìè äîáðàòüñÿ äî Åâðîïû.
Ìîã ïåðåáðàòüñÿ â Êèòàé-Ìàíü÷æóðèþ.
Íî ÿ íå íàõîæó åãî â äîñòóïíûõ èñòî÷íèêàõ ïî Õàðáèíó
TaniaB
Íîâè÷îê

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Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î ïðàäåäå/ðîäñòâåííèêå: Áàáåíêî Ëóêà Åðåìååâè÷ (ñëóæáà äâèæåíèÿ ÊÂÆÄ, ïðèáûë â Õàðáèí â äåêàáðå 1912 ãîäà ñ æåíîé Å. Ê. Íèêîëàåâîé è ñûíîì Êîíñòàíòèíîì, ðîä. 02.02.1912 â ñ. Íîâîãðèãîðüåâêà). Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, èç êàêîé ãóáåðíèè è óåçäà îí áûë ðîäîì (âîçìîæíî, åñòü äàííûå â ôîíäå Ð-830 èëè õàðáèíñêèõ èñòî÷íèêàõ)? Çàðàíåå áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî!
Gul
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà

Gul

Ñîîáùåíèé: 14529
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 44484

TaniaB íàïèñàë:
[q]
Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, èç êàêîé ãóáåðíèè è óåçäà îí áûë ðîäîì (âîçìîæíî, åñòü äàííûå â ôîíäå Ð-830 èëè õàðáèíñêèõ èñòî÷íèêàõ
[/q]


 1925 ã. ïðîæèâàë â Çàòîíå ÊÂÆÄ áàðàê 58

Âåðîÿòíî, åñòü åãî ïåðñîíàëüíîå äåëî â ÐÃÈÀ ÑÏá ô. 830
Ïîñìîòðèòå îïèñü

https://fgurgia.ru/imageViewer...yajZaek8LK

Ñäåëàéòå çàïðîñ â ÐÃÈÀ ÑÏá
Âîçìîæíî, òàì áóäóò íóæíûå Âàì ñâåäåíèÿ. Íî ìàëîâåðîÿòíî....

À òàêæå ñïèñêè æåëåçíîäîðîæíèêîâ, óåõàâøèõ â ÑÑÑÐ â 1935

https://forum.vgd.ru/614/166741/60.htm
TaniaB
Íîâè÷îê

Ñîîáùåíèé: 8
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Thank you!



Gul íàïèñàë:
[q]
In 1925 he lived in Zaton KWZD Barak 58

Probably there is his personal case in the RGIA St. Petersburg f. 830
See the inventory

https://fgurgia.ru/imageViewer...yayajZaek8LK

Make a request to the RGIA St. Petersburg
Perhaps there will be the information you need. But unlikely...

And also the lists of railway workers who left in the USSR in 1935

https://wysotsky.com/0009/552.htm
[/q]



Gul
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà

Gul

Ñîîáùåíèé: 14529
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TaniaB
Ñûí ðîäèëñÿ â Íîâîãðèãîðüåâêå èëè Õàðáèíå?
Ó Âàñ åñòü äîêóìåíò î ðîæäåíèè ñûíà?
Åñëè ðîäèëñÿ â Õàðáèíå, òî ñäåëàéòå çàïðîñ
â ÐÃÈÀ Ä íà ïîèñê ìåòðè÷åñêîé çàïèñè î åãî ðîæäåíèè..
Òàì áóäóò óêàçàíû ðîäèòåëè è îòêóäà îíè ðîäîì
 àíêåòå Âû íàïèñàëè, ÷òî ñûí ðîäèëñÿ â Õàðáèíå
TaniaB
Íîâè÷îê

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TaniaB íàïèñàë:
[q]
Thank you!
[/q]


Hello,
The link https://wysotsky.com/0009/552.htm takes me to a narrative. Do you have another link to list of workers returning? I have already looked through all the newspaper clippings that you have, but did not find them. Family story says that Lukian Babenko and wife did return to Russia in 1935. I would like to find where
Thank you!
Gul
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà

Gul

Ñîîáùåíèé: 14529
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 44484

TaniaB íàïèñàë:
[q]
Hello,
The link https://wysotsky.com/0009/552.htm takes me to a narrative. Do you have another link to list of workers returning? I have already looked through all the newspaper clippings that you have, but did not find them. Family story says that Lukian Babenko and wife did return to Russia in 1935. I would like to find where
Thank you!
[/q]


Äà, ýòà ññûëêà îøèáî÷íàÿ.

Ïðàâèëüíàÿ ýòà ññûëêà
https://forum.vgd.ru/614/166741/60.htm

Âûðåçêè èç ãàçåò ñ ôàìèëèÿìè âåðíóâøèõñÿ â ÑÑÑÐ çäåñü.
https://forum.vgd.ru/614/166741/0.htm
Äëÿ âàñ âàæíî óçíàòü, îòêóäà ðîäîì Ëóêà Áàáåíêî.
Äëÿ ýòîãî íóæíî çíàòü, ãäå ðîäèëñÿ åãî ñûí Êîíñòàíòèí.
Çäåñü Âû íàïèñàëè, ÷òî îí ðîäèëñÿ â Õàðáèíå

https://forum.vgd.ru/post/1142/197570/p5814306.htm#pp5814306



TaniaB íàïèñàë:
[q]
1. Ïåðñîíà ðîäà, î êîòîðîé èçâåñòíû òî÷íûå äàííûå
- ÔÈÎ: Áàáåíêî Êîíñòàíòèí Lukyanovich
- Ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ: 1912
- Ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ: Harbin, China
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Åñëè îí ðîäèëñÿ â Õàðáèíå â 1912, òî Âàì íóæíî ñäåëàòü çàïðîñ â ÐÃÈÀ ÄÂ (Âëàäèâîñòîê)
íà ïîèñê ìåòðè÷åñêîé çàïèñè î ðîæäåíèè- êðåùåíèè Êîíñòàíòèíà.  àðõèâå åñòü ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè öåðêâåé Õàðáèíà.
 òàêîé çàïèñè î ðîæäåíèè óêàçàíî, îòêóäà ðîäîì ðîäèòåëè

Yes, that link is incorrect.
This link is correct.

https://forum.vgd.ru/614/166741/60.htm

You can find newspaper clippings containing the names of those who returned to the USSR here:
https://forum.vgd.ru/614/166741/0.htm
It is important for you to determine where Luka Babenko originally came from.
To do this, you need to find out where his son, Konstantin, was born.
You mentioned here that he was born in Harbin:

https://forum.vgd.ru/post/1142/197570/p5814306.htm#pp5814306



TaniaB íàïèñàë:
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1. Individual from the family line for whom precise data is available
- Full name: Konstantin Lukyanovich Babenko
- Year of birth: 1912
- Place of birth: Harbin, China
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If he was born in Harbin in 1912, you should submit a request to the RGIA DV (Russian State Historical Archive of the Far East) in Vladivostok
to search for a birth/baptismal record for Konstantin. The archive holds the metric books (registers) from churches in Harbin.
Such a birth record will indicate the place of origin of the parents.


È åùå.  ñïðàâî÷íèêå Âåñü Õàðáèí 1926
îí óæå íå óêàçàí. À â ñïðàâî÷íèêå 1925 îí óêàçàí îäèí.
Õîòÿ îáû÷íî ïðèâîäèëè èìåíà âñåõ ïðîæèâàþùèõ ñ ãëàâîé ñåìüè

And one more thing. He is no longer listed in the 1926 *All Harbin* directory. However, he does appear in the 1925 directory—listed alone.
This is notable, as it was standard practice to include the names of everyone living with the head of the household.


Âû íàïèñàëè çäåñü https://forum.vgd.ru/post/1142/197570/p5814306.htm#pp5814306


TaniaB íàïèñàë:
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Most likely the father of Ãåííàäèé who was born in 1928 in Harbin and became an American citizen
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Âû ñ÷èòàåòå Êîíñòàíòèíà, ðîäèâøåãîñÿ â 1912, îòöîì Ãåííàäèÿ, êîòîðûé ðîäèëñÿ â 1928?

Do you consider Konstantin, born in 1912, to be the father of Gennady, who was born in 1928?
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