Martinoff (Мартынов)

Thank you!

The discussion is about this award!!!!

http://1.2.3.12/bmi/img208.ima...lder1c.jpg

http://1.2.3.12/bmi/img442.ima...15copy.jpg

Year 1902!



By frankmartinoff at 2011-12-27


By frankmartinoff at 2011-10-08

F. Martinoff написал:

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The question is what it is,
...based on all "your" information it could only be a St. George with Diamonds !!! ???

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Impossible. First - such thing (St.George cross with diamonds) has never existed. Second - order of St.George is a military decoration that could only be awarded for acts of combat related heroism. Third - the St.George cross worn on a neck ribbon would be a 3rd class. Meaning that he had to have a 4th class cross worn on his chest as well. At that time not many generals had two crosses of St.George.

If it's a Russian decoration then it had to be a cross of St.Vladimir. It's the only one that fits. Otherwise it's some kind of foreign decoration.

F. Martinoff написал:

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The only thing, that could represent the Maltese Order,
is the insignia on the Collar, because the school insignia didn't have
a "Crown" on the Maltese Cross!

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I was talking about the cross on the neck ribbon only. The smaller badge on the collar could be anything. Details are not distinguishable. It might be a miniature version of Corps of Pages badge that was introduced the same year (1902) but there is no way to prove it.

I think that SVKM de L was right,
they are not "canting" Arms,
they are Polish Schlachta !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%...at_of_arms

http://radikal.ru/F/s018.radik...a.jpg.html

SVKM de L написал:

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...arms of Martynov, as I promised.
1. Alexei Martynov, Colonel (granted 1846.11.15)"Щит поделен горизонтально. Вверху в красном поле половина встающего грифа с изогнутым мечом в лапе. Внизу в зеленом поле золотой пернач вертикально, за ним накрест сабля острием вниз и пика, острием вверх. Над щитом дворянский коронованный шлем с тремя страусовыми перьями. Намёт зеленый, подложен золотом.""

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Interesting for me is.
that Alexei Martynov, Colonel - Alexander Alexandrovich(1846) from a noble family from Moscow,
that he also was an architect !!!