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Äî ýòîãî ÿ çàíèìàëàñü òîëüêî êðåñòüÿíñêî-ìàñòåðîâîé ÷àñòüþ ìîåãî äðåâà, à òåïåðü âîò âðîäå ïðèøëî âðåìÿ âçÿòüñÿ çà ïðåäêîâ-ñâÿùåííèêîâ...  ñâÿçè ñ ýòèì âîïðîñ: ïî êàêèì äîêóìåíòàì ëó÷øå èñêàòü? Áóäó ðàñêàïûâàòü ñ 1 äàòû - äàòû ðîæäåíèÿ ïðàäåäà. À ïîòîì - êëèðîâûå âåäîìîñòè ñìîòðåòü ïðî åãî îòöà? Èëè â ïîñåìåéíûõ ñïèñêàõ îíè áóäóò ïðîïèñàíû? Íî íè òîãî, íè äðóãîãî ìîæåò íå îêàçàòüñÿ (ñóäÿ ïî ïðîøëîìó îïûòó). Íàñ÷åò ðåâèçñêèõ ñêàçîê, íàñêîëüêî ïîíèìàþ, íåò òàì ñâÿùåííèêîâ... Îïèøèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ãðàæäàíå, íà êàêèå äîêóìåíòû ëó÷øå íàäåÿòüñÿ, âîîáùå - êàêîâû îñîáåííîñòè èññëåäîâàíèÿ ðîäîñëîâíîé ñâÿùåííèêîâ. Áóäó î÷åíü áëàãîäàðíà! ---
ñâÿùåííèêè Ïåðìñêîé, Âÿòñêîé è Ðÿçàíñêîé ãóáåðíèé - Äüÿêîíîâû, Ïîêðîâñêèå, Óäèíöåâû, Ïèíåãèíû, Àââàêóìîâû ; ìàñòåðîâûå óðàëüñêèõ çàâîäîâ - Øåèíû, Ëèõà÷åâû, Øàòîâû, Åðìàêîâû, Êóòèíû ; èç íûíåøíåé ×óâàøèè - Áåëîêóðîâû , èç Êîñòðîìñêîé - Ðîìàíîâû, Âîðîíîâû | | Ëàéê (3) |
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20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 19:45 Robert Staurowsky, àáñîëþòëè!  Äåéñòâèòåëüíî, Ñòàâðîâñêèé - ñâÿùåííè÷åñêàÿ ôàìèëèÿ, ïðîèñõîäÿùàÿ îò ñëîâà "Ñòàâðîñ" - êðåñò. Ñêîðåå âñåãî, òàêóþ ôàìèëèþ ìîãëè äàâàòü ïî îêîí÷àíèè äóõîâíîãî ó÷åáíîãî çàâåäåíèÿ íà÷àëüíîãî óðîâíÿ (êóäà ïîñòóïàëè áåñôàìèëüíûå ñëóøàòåëè). Ôàìèëèè Ñòàâðîâñêèé è Êðåñòîâñêèé ñâÿçàíû ìåæäó ñîáîé íå áîëüøå, ÷åì Ñìèò è Êóçíåöîâ . À âîò ãäå äàâàëè èìåííî òàêèå ôàìèëèè - âîïðîñ èíòåðåñíûé... Ó ìåíÿ ñîçäàëîñü âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷òî â äóõîâíûõ ñåìèíàðèÿõ áûëè ñâîè ïðåäïî÷òåíèÿ â îòíîøåíèè ôàìèëèé. Áûëî áû èíòåðåñíî ñ ýòèì ðàçîáðàòüñÿ... Êòî íàçûâàë? Ãäå äàâàëè "öâåòî÷íûå" ôàìèëèè (Ãèàöèíòîâû, Òþëüïàíîâû è ò.ï.), à ãäå - "ãðå÷åñêèå" (Ñòàâðîâñêèå, Ñòðàòàíîâñêèå)? Èô ûîó ëèêå, È öàí òðàíñëàòå ìû àíñwåð èí Åíãëèñõ... ---
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Ïîäãàéñêèå, Áîíäàðåâû, Ìóäðîëþáîâû, Ãðÿêîëîâû, Íîâèêîâû, Èíþøèíû, Áåëîâû, Èñààêîâû/Èñàêîâû, Êóðãàíîâû, Áåëÿåâû, Ñèíÿâèíû, Äåìèäîâû, Øåëÿêèíû, Ôåäîñååâû - ïèøèòå! Ãåîãðàôè÷åñêèå ïîäðîáíîñòè - â ïðîôèëå... | | |
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21 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 10:01 Robert Staurowsky, EdweenÕîðîøî ïîãîâîðèëè  | | |
Ïîçäíÿêîâà Òàòüÿíà Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 450 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 127 | Íàâåðõ ##
22 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 12:39 Diagnost! Êóäà âû ïðîïàëè? ß òàê è íå ïîíÿëà, ïîëó÷èëè ëè Âû ìîè ìàòåðèàëû  Äàéòå çíàòü! --- Äíåâíèê, Ïîçäíÿêîâû, Àíèñèìîâû, Ïåòðîïàâëîâñêèå, Êðåñòíèêîâû, Äîáðîíðàâîâû, Êàðàìûøåâû è ïðî÷èå | | |
| Robert Staurowsky Íîâè÷îê
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22 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 17:12Stavrovsky lineage ÅäwååíÒõàíê ¸ó ôîð ¸óð ðåïëû. Àðå ¸ó ôàìèëèàð wèòõ à áîîê öàëëåä úÐóññèàí Ñóðíàìåñú áû àóòõîð úÁ.Î. Óíáåãàóíú ? Òõèñ áîîê èíâåñòèãàòåñ Ðóññèàí ñóðíàìåñ, îðèãèíñ àíä ìåàíèíãñ. Ñòàâðîâñêû èñ à íàìå äåñöðèáåä èí òõèñ áîîê wèòõ èò'ñ îðèãèí àíä ìåàíèíã. Òõå áîîê èñ âåðû wåëë wðèòòåí àíä öîíòàèíñ ìó÷ èíôîðìàòèîí. Áåèíã ôðîì òõå Óíèòåä Ñòàòåñ, È àì íîò ôàìèëèàð wèòõ òõå àð÷èâàë ðåñîóðöåñ àâàèëàáëå èí Ðóññèà. Äî ¸ó êíîw îô à ïåðñîí wõî ìàé áå àáëå òî àññèñò ìå èí ìû ðåñåàð÷ ôîð òõå åxàöò ãåîãðàïõèöàë îðèãèí îô òõå Ñòàâðîâñêû íàìå? È àì àòòåìïòèíã òî òðàöå òõå ëèíåàãå îô à ïðèåñò wõî èììèãðàòåä ôðîì Ðóññèà òî òõå Ñëîâàêèàí ñèäå îô Öàðïàòõèàí ìîóíòàèíñ àáîóò òõå ûåàð 1690. Òõå íàìå Ñòàâðîâñêû öàððèåñ à ëîíã ëèíå îô ïðèåñòñ àíä êàíòîðñ wèòõ èò èí Ñëîâàêèà. Òõèñ èñ òõå øîðò äåñöðèïòèîí îô ìû ðåñåàð÷. È õàâå òõå ïðèåñòñ íàìå áóò íî îòõåð èíôîðìàòèîí wõåðå õå öàìå ôðîì èí Ðóññèà. Àíû õåëï ¸ó öàí îôôåð èñ àïïðåöèàòåä. Êèíä Ðåãàðäñ ---
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Stargazer Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 128 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 66 | Íàâåðõ ##
22 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 22:29 Robert Staurowsky
Will you be so kind as not to use the "translit" tag while posting your messages, because it's much harder to read the cyrillic transliteration than the original.
Thank you! | | |
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23 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 2:40 [b]Ñòàðãàçåð[/b]
Õîw òî òóðí îôô òðàíñëèò? Ïëåàñå àäâèñå ---
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23 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 9:36 Robert Staurowskyá there is a tag "Ïðèìåíÿòü äåòðàíñëèòåðàöèþ àâòîìàòè÷åñêè êî âñåì ñîîáùåíèÿì?" in your profile. Turn it off. I've received your message. You may wish to check this resource: http://www.petergen.com/bovkalo/index.html , there is a lot on clergy and their ancestry. ---
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Ïîäãàéñêèå, Áîíäàðåâû, Ìóäðîëþáîâû, Ãðÿêîëîâû, Íîâèêîâû, Èíþøèíû, Áåëîâû, Èñààêîâû/Èñàêîâû, Êóðãàíîâû, Áåëÿåâû, Ñèíÿâèíû, Äåìèäîâû, Øåëÿêèíû, Ôåäîñååâû - ïèøèòå! Ãåîãðàôè÷åñêèå ïîäðîáíîñòè - â ïðîôèëå... | | |
Gontarñåìåéíûé èñòîðèê  Saint Petersburg Ñîîáùåíèé: 2029 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2903 | Íàâåðõ ##
25 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 15:11 Edween
ñòàóðîñ ýòî ñòîëá ---
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Íàì òðóäíî, à êîãäà áûëî ëåãêî? | | |
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26 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 11:01 26 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 11:03 Gontar,
stauros [st¨ºnai]
I. an upright pale or stake, Hom., etc.: of piles driven in to serve as a foundation, Hdt., Thuc.
II. the Cross, NTest.: its form was represented by the Greek letter T, Luc.
ò.å. íîâîçàâåòíûé "stauros" - âñå-òàêè "êðåñò"... ---
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Ïîäãàéñêèå, Áîíäàðåâû, Ìóäðîëþáîâû, Ãðÿêîëîâû, Íîâèêîâû, Èíþøèíû, Áåëîâû, Èñààêîâû/Èñàêîâû, Êóðãàíîâû, Áåëÿåâû, Ñèíÿâèíû, Äåìèäîâû, Øåëÿêèíû, Ôåäîñååâû - ïèøèòå! Ãåîãðàôè÷åñêèå ïîäðîáíîñòè - â ïðîôèëå... | | |
Ewe Ñîîáùåíèé: 640 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 397 | Íàâåðõ ##
26 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 13:08 26 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 13:09 Ñòàâðîñ - îò ãðå÷."äåðåâî", äðåâî Õðèñòîâî, ò.å.êðåñò, íà êîòîðîì áûë ðàñïÿò Õðèñòîñ
Stauros - from the Greek "stauro" - holy tree, i.e. The Cross on which Christ was crucified. ---
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