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Äî ýòîãî ÿ çàíèìàëàñü òîëüêî êðåñòüÿíñêî-ìàñòåðîâîé ÷àñòüþ ìîåãî äðåâà, à òåïåðü âîò âðîäå ïðèøëî âðåìÿ âçÿòüñÿ çà ïðåäêîâ-ñâÿùåííèêîâ...  ñâÿçè ñ ýòèì âîïðîñ: ïî êàêèì äîêóìåíòàì ëó÷øå èñêàòü? Áóäó ðàñêàïûâàòü ñ 1 äàòû - äàòû ðîæäåíèÿ ïðàäåäà. À ïîòîì - êëèðîâûå âåäîìîñòè ñìîòðåòü ïðî åãî îòöà? Èëè â ïîñåìåéíûõ ñïèñêàõ îíè áóäóò ïðîïèñàíû? Íî íè òîãî, íè äðóãîãî ìîæåò íå îêàçàòüñÿ (ñóäÿ ïî ïðîøëîìó îïûòó). Íàñ÷åò ðåâèçñêèõ ñêàçîê, íàñêîëüêî ïîíèìàþ, íåò òàì ñâÿùåííèêîâ... Îïèøèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ãðàæäàíå, íà êàêèå äîêóìåíòû ëó÷øå íàäåÿòüñÿ, âîîáùå - êàêîâû îñîáåííîñòè èññëåäîâàíèÿ ðîäîñëîâíîé ñâÿùåííèêîâ. Áóäó î÷åíü áëàãîäàðíà! ---
ñâÿùåííèêè Ïåðìñêîé, Âÿòñêîé è Ðÿçàíñêîé ãóáåðíèé - Äüÿêîíîâû, Ïîêðîâñêèå, Óäèíöåâû, Ïèíåãèíû, Àââàêóìîâû ; ìàñòåðîâûå óðàëüñêèõ çàâîäîâ - Øåèíû, Ëèõà÷åâû, Øàòîâû, Åðìàêîâû, Êóòèíû ; èç íûíåøíåé ×óâàøèè - Áåëîêóðîâû , èç Êîñòðîìñêîé - Ðîìàíîâû, Âîðîíîâû | | Ëàéê (3) |
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26 àâãóñòà 2005 7:45 È âîïðîñ êî âñåì: äîêóìåíòû ïî äóõîâåíñòâó çà ïîñëåðåâîëþöèîííûå ãîäû ãäå ìîãóò õðàíèòüñÿ, â ÃÀÐÔå? Çà 30-å ãîäû, ê ïðèìåðó?
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Îçåðåöêîâñêèå, Âåëè÷êèíû, Êðàñíîâñêèå, Óâàðîâû (Óàðîâû), Äðîçäîâû, Áðèëëèàíòîâû (äóõîâåíñòâî Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóá.).; Ëåâèòñêèå (Êèåâ), Áàðàíîâû (Êèåâ) Áàõìàöêèå (Ìåëüíÿ), Êîøîâåö (Ëþáèòîâî), Çàëåñîâû (Áèðñê, Óôà); Âèíîãðàäîâû, Áîðçàêîâñêèå; Ãîðáóíîâû è Ïëàíêèíû (Ëîáàñêè). | | |
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26 àâãóñòà 2005 17:29 MariaG  ÐÃÈÀ åñòü êîìïëåêñ äîêóìåíòîâ î äóõîâåíñòâå çà ïîñëåðåâîëþöèîííûå ãîäû. Ýòî äåëà î ïðåäñòàâëåíèè ê íàãðàäàì.  ÷àñòíîñòè â ÐÃÈÀ ìíå óäàëîñü îáíàðóæèòü äâà òàêèõ äåëà: î ìîåì ïðàïðàäåäå è åãî áðàòå. Îáû÷íî â äåëî âõîäèëî ïðîøåíèå, íàïðèìåð, îò ïðèõîæàí è ïîñëóæíîé ñïèñîê ñâÿùåííèêà. Òîëüêî íóæíî òîðîïèòüñÿ, èáî Âû çíàåòå ïå÷àëüíóþ ñóäüáó ÐÃÈÀ... Íî, íåñìîòðÿ íà òî, ÷òî àðõèâ ïî ñóòè çàêðûò, åãî ðàáîòíèêè ïðîäîëæàþò èñïîëíÿòü ïèñüìåííûå çàïðîñû. Òîëüêî âîò öåíû çà èñïîëíåíèå ñîëèäíî ïîäñêî÷èëè... Íàïðèìåð, çà êñåðîêîïèðîâàíèå 7 ëèñòîâ èç äåë î íàãðàæäåíèè ÿ íåäàâíî çàïëàòèë ïî÷òè 1500 ðóáëåé... Åñòü íåáîëüøîå êîëè÷åñòâî äåë î íàãðàæäåíèè äóõîâåíñòâà çà ïîñëåðåâîëþöèîííûå ãîäû è â ÖÈÀÌ, â îñíîâíîì, â âèäå ìèêðîôèëüìîâ. ß èõ ïðîñìàòðèâàë, òàì ÷àùå ôèãóðèðóþò ñâÿùåííèêè Ìîñêîâñêîé åïàðõèè, à íå ã. Ìîñêâû. Ñåé÷àñ íå ïîìíþ âûõîäíûå äàííûå äîêóìåíòîâ, íî ìîãó ïîñìîòðåòü, åñëè õîòèòå. (Ñîîáùåíèå îòðåäàêòèðîâàë Diagnost 26 àâã. 2005 17:32)
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Èùó ñâÿùåííî-öåðêîâíîñëóæèòåëåé Òâåðñêîé åïàðõèè (Ñóäíèöûíûõ, Àëåêñååâûõ, Ðîñëÿêîâûõ, Ìàëèíèíûõ, Çåëåíåâûõ, Áûêîâûõ, Ñóñëîâûõ, Êðèòñêèõ, Ñðåòåíñêèõ, Êðåñòíèêîâûõ, Íèêîëüñêèõ), êðåñòüÿí Ñèìáèðñêîé ãóáåðíèè (Ñóðêîâûõ, Ãóãóíîâûõ), êðåñòüÿí Òâåðñêîé ãóáåðíèè | | |
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26 àâãóñòà 2005 18:42 Diagnost, íó, òàêèìè öåíàìè ìåíÿ óæå íå óäèâèøü. ß â ÖÈÀÌå çà 8 ëèñòîâ òå æå 1500 îòäàëà. À âîò èç ÐÃÈÀ ìíå íàîáîðîò ñîâåðøåííî áåñïëàòíî ïðèñëàëè âûïèñêó èç ïîñëóæíèêà ïðàäåäà çà 21-é èëè 23-é ãîä, íå ïîìíþ ñåé÷àñ. Ïðàâäà, ÿ èì òî÷íûå âûõîäíûå äàííûå äàâàëà, òàê ÷òî èñêàòü íå ïðèøëîñü, íî âñå-òàêè... À òàì äåéñòâèòåëüíî åùå ïðèíèìàþò çàïðîñû? Ãäå-òî íà ôîðóìå áûëà òåìà ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó, âðîäå ïèñàëè, ÷òî óæå îò âîðîò ïîâîðîò äàþò... :(  ÖÈÀÌå ïîïðîáóþ ñàìà ïîñìîòðåòü. Åñëè íå íàéäó, îáðàùóñü ê Âàì. Ìåíÿ, ñîáñòâåííî, èíòåðåñóþò óâîëüíåíèÿ çà øòàò è ïåðåìåùåíèÿ çà 20-å - íà÷. 30-õ... (Ñîîáùåíèå îòðåäàêòèðîâàë MariaG 26 àâã. 2005 18:43)
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Îçåðåöêîâñêèå, Âåëè÷êèíû, Êðàñíîâñêèå, Óâàðîâû (Óàðîâû), Äðîçäîâû, Áðèëëèàíòîâû (äóõîâåíñòâî Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóá.).; Ëåâèòñêèå (Êèåâ), Áàðàíîâû (Êèåâ) Áàõìàöêèå (Ìåëüíÿ), Êîøîâåö (Ëþáèòîâî), Çàëåñîâû (Áèðñê, Óôà); Âèíîãðàäîâû, Áîðçàêîâñêèå; Ãîðáóíîâû è Ïëàíêèíû (Ëîáàñêè). | | |
Rufina Êèåâ Ñîîáùåíèé: 1400 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2005 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 9251 | Íàâåðõ ##
26 àâãóñòà 2005 21:32 MariaG, Îòêóäà ïîÿâèëàñü ôàìèëèÿ Øàâðîâ?. ß åùå â ìàðòå, êîãäà íà÷èíàëà ñâîè ïîèñêè â Èíòåðíåòå, âñòðåòèëà òîëêîâàíèå ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ ýòîé ôàìèëèè. Î÷åíü ïðîçàè÷åñêîå.» Îò ïðîçâèùà Øàâðà - òîò, êòî õîäèò âÿëî, ëåíèâî, âîëî÷èò íîãè èëè æå øàðêàåò. Îäíîôàìèëåö: Øàâðîâ, Øàâðóêîâ, Øàâûðåâ, Øàâûðèí.»
ß â ïðèíöèïå õîòåëà ñî âðåìåíåì îáðàòèòüñÿ ê ôîðóìñêîìó ôàìèëèîëîãó. Ìîæåò, îí äàñò ìíå áîëåå ñåðüåçíîå îáîñíîâàíèå ôàìèëèè. Íî, åñëè Øàâðîâ îò øàâðà, - ìû ïåðåæèâåì. Íî ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî âñå, êòî øàðêàë íîãàìè òåïåðü îäíîôàìèëüöû.
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Âñå ëè÷íûå äàííûå ìîè è ìîåé ñåìüè, ðàçìåùåíû ìíîþ íà ñàéòå äîáðîâîëüíî è ñ ñîãëàñèÿ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ
Ôàìèëèè: Øàâðîâû, Íå÷àåâû, Êóðîâû.
Òâåðü, Ìîñêâà, Òâåðñêàÿ îáëàñòü, Òîìñê. | | |
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26 àâãóñòà 2005 23:24 Rufina, äà, íàäî áû ó Àíäðåÿ IAA ïîèíòåðåñîâàòüñÿ.. Â Òâåðñêîé ãóáåðíèè ÿâíî íàáëþäàëàñü ïîâûøåííàÿ êîíöåíòðàöèÿ øàðêàþùèõ.  ---
Îçåðåöêîâñêèå, Âåëè÷êèíû, Êðàñíîâñêèå, Óâàðîâû (Óàðîâû), Äðîçäîâû, Áðèëëèàíòîâû (äóõîâåíñòâî Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóá.).; Ëåâèòñêèå (Êèåâ), Áàðàíîâû (Êèåâ) Áàõìàöêèå (Ìåëüíÿ), Êîøîâåö (Ëþáèòîâî), Çàëåñîâû (Áèðñê, Óôà); Âèíîãðàäîâû, Áîðçàêîâñêèå; Ãîðáóíîâû è Ïëàíêèíû (Ëîáàñêè). | | |
| Boris77 Íîâè÷îê
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29 àâãóñòà 2005 9:25 Rufina ÿ îïÿòü íà äèñòàíöèè. Âñå ýòî âðåìÿ áûë çäîðîâî çàãðóæåí, äà è ñåé÷àñ íàãðóçêà íå ìàëåíüêàÿ. Ïî ïîâîäó äîìà Øàâðîâûõ. Ðîäíàÿ ñåñòðà íàøåãî ïðàäåäà Ïåòðîâñêîãî Ãåîðãèÿ Ãàâðèëîâè÷à, ñëóæèâøåãî íàñòîÿòåëåì õðàìà Ñïàñ-Ïðåîáðàæåíèÿ ñåëà Çàãîðîäüÿ áûëà çàìóæåì çà Øàâðîâûì. ß îá ýòîì â ñàìîì íà÷àëå óæå ïèñàë. ×òî êàñàåòñÿ áåäíîé îáñòàíîâêè äîìà, òî íàäî ó÷èòûâàòü, ÷òî ó íàøåãî ïðàäåäà â ïðèõîäå áûëî íåñêîëüêî ñåëåíèé. Ïîýòîìó ïðè ñîâåðøåíèè òðåá îí ìîã ñîáèðàòü çíà÷èòåëüíî áîëüøå äåíåã ÷åì äüÿêîí. Î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî ÷òî âû óçíàëè îò ïðàâíó÷êè ðîäíîé ñåñòðû âàøåãî ïðàäåäà è Ôåäîðà Ñòåôàíîâè÷à.
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DiagnostÌîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 259 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2005 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 66 | Íàâåðõ ##
29 àâãóñòà 2005 16:44 MariaG Ïðèíèìàþò ïîêà â ÐÃÈÀ çàïðîñû. Âîò ÿ êàê ðàç æäó èñïîëíåíèÿ (ñ÷åò óæå îïëà÷åí), òàê ÷òî ìîæíî åùå óñïåòü ÷òî-òî çàêàçàòü! Íó à ïðî ïåðåìåùàíèÿ êàê ðàç èç ïîñëóæíûõ ñïèñêîâ, ïðåäñòàâëåííûõ ê íàãðàäå è óçíÀåòå.
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Èùó ñâÿùåííî-öåðêîâíîñëóæèòåëåé Òâåðñêîé åïàðõèè (Ñóäíèöûíûõ, Àëåêñååâûõ, Ðîñëÿêîâûõ, Ìàëèíèíûõ, Çåëåíåâûõ, Áûêîâûõ, Ñóñëîâûõ, Êðèòñêèõ, Ñðåòåíñêèõ, Êðåñòíèêîâûõ, Íèêîëüñêèõ), êðåñòüÿí Ñèìáèðñêîé ãóáåðíèè (Ñóðêîâûõ, Ãóãóíîâûõ), êðåñòüÿí Òâåðñêîé ãóáåðíèè | | |
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29 àâãóñòà 2005 17:53 Diagnost, ñïàñèáî! Ïîïðîáóþ, ìíå òàì íàäî íå òîëüêî ïî ñâÿùåííèêàì, íî è ïî äð. âåòêå ïîñëóæíèê èëè êàêèå-òî åùå äîêóìåíòû ïðàïðàäåäà ïîøóêàòü...
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Îçåðåöêîâñêèå, Âåëè÷êèíû, Êðàñíîâñêèå, Óâàðîâû (Óàðîâû), Äðîçäîâû, Áðèëëèàíòîâû (äóõîâåíñòâî Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóá.).; Ëåâèòñêèå (Êèåâ), Áàðàíîâû (Êèåâ) Áàõìàöêèå (Ìåëüíÿ), Êîøîâåö (Ëþáèòîâî), Çàëåñîâû (Áèðñê, Óôà); Âèíîãðàäîâû, Áîðçàêîâñêèå; Ãîðáóíîâû è Ïëàíêèíû (Ëîáàñêè). | | |
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29 àâãóñòà 2005 23:50 Boris77 . Ðàäà, ÷òî Âû ïðîäîëæàåòå ñâîè ïîèñêè. Èñòîðèÿ, ðàññêàçàííàÿ ìíå ïðàïðàâíó÷êîé, áîëüøå èíòåðåñíà äëÿ ìîåé ñåìåéíîé èñòîðèè, åñëè òàêóþ óäàñòñÿ ñëîæèòü. Âêðàòöå çâó÷èò òàê. Ó Ñòåôàíà Ôîêè÷à Øàâðîâà ïîíîìàðÿ öåðêâè ñ.Ôëîðîâñêîãî îò âòîðîé æåíû Òàòüÿíû Èâàíîâíû áûëî 5 äåòåé Èâàí, Ôåäîð, Àëåêñàíäðà, Ïåòð è Ñòåôàí. Èâàíà ÿ åùå ðàçûñêèâàþ, íî óæå çíàþ, ÷òî îí ó÷èëñÿ â Êàøèíñêîì äóõîâíîì ó÷èëèùå, Ôåäîð òîæå ó÷èëñÿ â ó÷èëèùå çàòåì æåíèëñÿ íà Ãàâðèëîâíå Ïåòðîâñêîé è ñëóæèë äèàêîíîì â Ñïàñ ×åíöàõ. Ó íèõ áûëî äâîå äåòåé Âàñèëèé è Íàòàëèÿ. Èõ ñåñòðà Àëåêñàíäðà Øàâðîâà âûøëà çàìóæ çà ñàïîæíèêà Èâàíà Ñåëåçíåâà (õîðîøèé ÷åëîâåê, íî ëþáèòåëü âûïèòü) â òîì æå Ôëîðîâñêîì. Ó íèõ áûëî äâå äî÷åðè – Ìàðèÿ Èâàíîâíà –ñòàðøàÿ è Ìàðèÿ Èâàíîâíà - ìëàäøàÿ. Ì.È.-ñòàðøàÿ ñëóæèëà êëþ÷íèöåé â Ìîñêâå ó áîãàòîãî êóïöà. Ñëó÷èëîñü òàê, ÷òî ëþáèìûé ïîäðÿä÷èê êóïöà Ìàêàð Ïîäãîðíîâ îâäîâåë. Åãî æåíèëè íà Ì.È. Ïîòîì Ìàêàð ñàì ñòàë êóïöîì, íó ýòî óæå íå ìîÿ èñòîðèÿ. Ó ýòîé ïàðû ðîäèëñÿ ñûí Êîëÿ. Êîëÿ òîëüêî æåíèëñÿ, êàê íà÷àëàñü âîéíà, è åãî óáèëè â ïåðâûé ãîä. À ðîäèâøèéñÿ áåç îòöà Ëåâ Íèêîëàåâè÷ ñòàë îòöîì ìîåé ( êàê ìû ïîñ÷èòàëè) ïëåìÿííèöû Íàòàëèè. Òàì åùå åñòü êàêèå-òî ïðåäàíèÿ î ñïðÿòàííûõ áîãàòñòâàõ, î êîëäóíüÿõ. Íî äóìàþ, ÷òî âñå óæå âûðûëè. Èç ïÿòåðûõ äåòåé ýòîãî ñåìåéñòâà íåò àáñîëþòíî íè÷åãî î Ïåòðå, à ìëàäøåíüêèé Ñòåôàí è åñòü ìîé ïðàäåäóøêà. Äà, ñïàñèáî Âàì çà êîîðäèíàòû è ðàñïèñàíèå àâòîáóñîâ äî Êàëÿçèíà, ÿ èìè âîñïîëüçîâàëàñü.
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Âñå ëè÷íûå äàííûå ìîè è ìîåé ñåìüè, ðàçìåùåíû ìíîþ íà ñàéòå äîáðîâîëüíî è ñ ñîãëàñèÿ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ
Ôàìèëèè: Øàâðîâû, Íå÷àåâû, Êóðîâû.
Òâåðü, Ìîñêâà, Òâåðñêàÿ îáëàñòü, Òîìñê. | | |
| Grigoriy Georgievich Íîâè÷îê
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30 àâãóñòà 2005 14:30 Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ïîñëåäóþò äàííûå, êîòîðûå ÿ ìîã íàéòè îá Àðõèåïèñêîïå Èîàêèìå Íèæåãîðîäñêîì (ðîäèëñÿ: Èîàíí/Èâàí Ëåâèòñêèé, âîçìîæíî Èîàêèìîâè÷): Archbishop Joachim, in the world John Ioakimovich Levitsky, was born on March 30, 1853 in the village of Petrushek, Kiev province, the son of a junior deacon (according to another source, reader) of the Kiev diocese. He was educated in the Kiev theological seminary. On March 30, 1879, he graduated from Kiev Theological Academy with the degree of candidate of theology. On August 9 he was appointed a teacher in the Riga theological seminary. On June 24, 1880, he was ordained to the priesthood for Riga cathedral. He was married with two sons. Between 1883 and 1886 he was a teacher of the Law of God in the Riga infantry school and in the higher maidens' private school. In 1886 his wife died. On June 28, 1893, he was tonsured, and the next day became rector of the Riga theological seminary with the rank of archimandrite. While in Riga, he was editor of the diocesan journal, and wrote several articles for it on the ecclesiastical history of the Baltic region with a historical-statistical description of the diocese. On January 14, 1896 Fr. Joachim was consecrated Bishop of Baltsk, a vicariate of the Kamenets-Podolsk diocese. On May 24, 1897 he became bishop of Brest, and on January 11, 1900 - bishop of Grodno. On November 26, 1903 he was appointed bishop of Orenburg and Uralsk, and in November 15, 1908 - bishop of Orenburg and the Turgay.
Ó íåãî áûëî äâà ñûíîâüÿ, Íèêîëàé è Àëåêñàíäð - ïåðâûé çàãðàíèöó óåçæàë â 1920 ã., à âòîðîé îñòàëñÿ â Ðîññèè. Âû íå ñìîãëè áû íàéòè êàêèå-íèáóäü ïîäðîáíûå äåòàëè îá ýòîì ÷åëîâåêå (Àðõèåïèñêîïå)?
Áëàãîäàðþ!
P.S. Îí áûë èçìó÷åí è óáèò â Ñåâàñòîïîëå â 1920-ì ãîäó, ñóäÿ ïî òîìó, ÷òî ìû ìîãëè óçíàòü - îí ñ÷èòàåòñÿ îäíèì èç ðîññèéñêèõ íîâîìó÷åíèêîâ.
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