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Ðàçûñêèâàþ òåõ, ÷üè ïðåäêè ïðîæèâàëè â Âèçåíôåëüäå(Wiesenfeld) Ýðëåíáàõñêîãî(Êàìåíñêîãî) êàíòîíà Ðåñïóáëèêè Íåìöåâ Ïîâîëæüÿ. Âñåì, êòî èñêðåííå çàíÿò ïîèñêîì âñåãî ÷òî ñâÿçàíî ñ Íåì. Ïîâîëæüåì, ïîìîãó ÷åì îáëàäàþ! Ãëàâíûå âåòâè Äðåâà Áëåì, Ëàíã, Âèíòåð, Îáëåíäåð, Ìàéåð. Åùå ïðåäîñòàâëÿþ ñïèñêè íåì. ôàìèëèé âñòðå÷àþùèõñÿ â ìîåì ðîäîñëîâíîì äðåâå. Î íåêîòîðûõ èçâåñòíà òîëüêî ôàìèëèÿ, î äðóãèõ áîëüøå â çàâèñèìîñòè îò ñòåïåíè ðîäñòâà. Àéçåí, Áåêêåð, Áîðãäîðô, Áðàóí, Áðåíêìàí, Âàçåìèëëåð, Âàíäëåð, Âåêåññåð, Âîëüô, Ãààê, Ãàëëåð, Ãàóê, Ãåáåëü, Ãåìáóõ, Ãåíòëåð, Ãåõò, Ãîðèõ, Ãðàóáåðãåð, Ãðîññ, Ãóáåð, Ãóäøìèäò, Äåðìåð, Åññå, Çîìåðôåëüä, Èîñ, Êàéëü, Êåéá, Êîðï, Êèëüõ, Êèïïåñ, Êëåìïôåð, Êîîï, Êðàóáåðã, Ëàóáãàí, Ëåíåøìèäò, Ëåéíâåáåð, Ëèòàó, Ìàðòåëü, Ìàòóñ, Ìåðê, Ìèëëåð, Íîéìàí, Îáåðäîðôåð, Ïàóëü, Ïèíåêåð, Ðàéö, Ðàóõ, Ðåéòåð, Ðèáåëü, Ðîëüãîéçåð, Ñóïïåñ, Òàóáåðò, Òåâñ, Òèññåí, Ôðåéìàí, Ôðèöëåð, Õàéíáèõíåð, Õèëüäåðìàí, Öâåöèõ, Öèãëåð, Øàéáåëü, Øàóýð, Øâàðö, Øååë, Øåôíåð, Øèåíôåëüä, Øèëüáåðò, Øëîòõàâð, Øíàéäåð, Øíàéäò, Øíåéäåð, Øòàéìåö, Øòàéíãàóýð, Øòàíã, Øòèáåí, Øòðåáåëü, Øòðèêåð, Øòóìïô, Øóòö, Ùóëüö, Ýãîâ, Ýêøòàéí, ßêîáè, ßíöåí. Ñ óâàæåíèåì, David | | |
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Âûøëà çàìóæ çà : Ìàéåð ßêîâ ßêîâëåâè÷ 16.01.1910ãîäà.
Íà÷èíàÿ ñ 1928ãîäà ïî 1936ãîä.
Ïðîæèâàëè â Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêîé îáëàñòè, ñåëî Ïîëèâàíîâêà.
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Ïî Ïîâîëæüþ âñòðå÷àë ïàðó ðàç íàïèñàíèå Opelt / Oppelt - ýòî èñêàæ¸ííîå íàïèñàíèå ôàìèëèè Obel / Opel èç êàòîëè÷åñêèõ êîëîíèé Ïðîéñ è Íîé-Êîëîíèå. È... - âñ¸, áîëüøå óïîìèíàíèé íå áûëî. ---
Èùó Ìèëëåð, ßêîáè, Ðèòòåð, Êàéçåð, Äåðð, Áåëòö, Øìèäò, Ãàãåëüãàíö, Ëàíã, Áåêêåð, Ôåðòèõ, Ëèíäò, Øòåéíáðåõåð, Øåôåð, Øëåãåëü, Ãîìåð, Âèäåìàí, Ðóòö, Ëîðåíãåëü, Øåëëåð, Øòðîìáåðãåð, Øâàá, Âèçíåð, Çîììåð - ñ Ïîâîëæüÿ. Ðàéõåðò, Çîììåðôåëüä - èç Ñòàâðîïîëüÿ. | | |
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16 îêòÿáðÿ 2024 17:28 Äîáðîãî äíÿ! Ïûòàþñü íàéòè èíôîðìàöèþ î ñâîåì ïðàäåäå è åãî ñåìüå/ðîäñòâåííèêàõ. Áóäó áëàãîäàðíà ëþáîé ïîìîùè. ×òî èçâåñòíî: Åãî çâàëè Ôðèäðèõ Ãåîðãèåâè÷ Êîõ. Ðîäèëñÿ 19 àâãóñòà 1923 ãîäà, êàê ìíå îáúÿñíèëè, æèë â Íåìåöêîé ÀÎ â Ðîññèè, êàê è åãî ïðåäêè ñî âðåìåí Åêàòåðèíû 2. Êîãäà íà÷àëàñü âîéíà, åãî ðîäèòåëè è èõ äåòè (ó íåãî áûëî 5 áðàòüåâ, âñå ìëàäøèå) áûëè ñîñëàíû â Ñèáèðü, â Òþìåíñêóþ îáëàñòü, òî÷íîå íàçâàíèå íàñåëåííîãî ïóíêòà íåèçâåñòíî. Òàì îíè ðàáîòàëè íà ëåñîïèëêå. Òàì æå îí ïîçíàêîìèëñÿ ñî ñâîåé æåíîé, èìÿ-îò÷åñòâî íåèçâåñòíî, ôàìèëèÿ äåâè÷üÿ Êóøíåðîâà. Òàì ðîäèëè 3 äåòåé (3 âûæèëî, ïåðâàÿ äî÷êà óìåðëà îò ñêàðëàòèíû, êîãäà åé áûëî ïîëãîäà). Èùó ñàìà, íî ïîêà íèêàêèõ óïîìèíàíèé íå ñìîãëà íàéòè. Ìîæåò, ó êîãî-òî çäåñü ïîëó÷èòñÿ ïîìî÷ü. Çàðàíåå ñïàñèáî.  | | |
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17 îêòÿáðÿ 2024 7:30 >> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ ndariaa îò 16 îêòÿáðÿ 2024 17:28 Äëÿ íà÷àëà çàïðîñèòå Èíôîðìàöèîííûé öåíòð ÓÂÄ ïî Òþìåíñêîé îáëàñòè î íàëè÷èè äîêóìåíòîâ (ëè÷íîå ó÷¸òíîå äåëî ïî äåïîðòàöèè Ãåîðãà (Åãîðà) Êîõ ñ ñåìü¸é): https://72.xn--b1aew.xn--p1ai/...nnij_centr ---
Èùó Ìèëëåð, ßêîáè, Ðèòòåð, Êàéçåð, Äåðð, Áåëòö, Øìèäò, Ãàãåëüãàíö, Ëàíã, Áåêêåð, Ôåðòèõ, Ëèíäò, Øòåéíáðåõåð, Øåôåð, Øëåãåëü, Ãîìåð, Âèäåìàí, Ðóòö, Ëîðåíãåëü, Øåëëåð, Øòðîìáåðãåð, Øâàá, Âèçíåð, Çîììåð - ñ Ïîâîëæüÿ. Ðàéõåðò, Çîììåðôåëüä - èç Ñòàâðîïîëüÿ. | | |
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31 îêòÿáðÿ 2024 11:29 2 íîÿáðÿ 2024 10:30 Äîáðûé äåíü! Äîáðûé äåíü, óâàæàåìûå ôîðóì÷àíå! Ñ âàøåé ïîìîùüþ äîâîëüíî äàëåêî ïðîäâèíóëñÿ â ñâîèõ ïîèñêàõ ïî íåêîòîðûì íàïðàâëåíèÿì ïîèñêîâ.  ðåçóëüòàòå ïðèõîäèòñÿ ïåðåîñìûñëèâàòü ìíîãèå ñâåäåíèÿ, êîòîðûå èçíà÷àëüíî âèäåëèñü ñîâñåì èíà÷å. Êîíêðåòíî.  ïîèñêàõ ïåðâîãî ìóæà ìîåé áàáóøêè, îò êîòîðîãî åé äîñòàëàñü(è îñòàëàñü ñ íåé) ôàìèëèÿ Ãþéî. Â÷åðà îáíàðóæèë äîêóìåíòû î áðàêå Ãþéî Èâàí Èâàíîâè÷à íà Òðîôèìîâîé Àííå Åôðåìîâíå è âûïèñü î ðîæäåíèè Ãþéî Ëþäìèëå Èâàíîâíû (ìîåé ñâîäíîé ò¸òè).      íèõ íàïèñàíî ÷òî È.È. Ãþéî èç êîë. Øàâãàóçåí Ñàìàðñêîé ãóá, . Èñõîäÿ èç ýòîãî ïðîøó âàøèõ êîììåíòàðèåâ: 1. Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ÷òî Èâàí Èâàíîâè÷ íå ìåíÿë ñâîè Èìÿ îò÷åñòâî è íå ïðèåõàë èç Ôðàíöèè êàê âñå ìû äóìàëè, à ðîäèëñÿ â Ðîññèè? 2. Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ÷òî îí ñêîðåå âñåãî íå ôðàíçóç , à íåìåö? (Ãóéî è ò.ï.) 3. Ìîæíî ëè â ìåòðèêàõ íàéòè åãî ñâèä. î ðîæäåíèè. êîë. Øàâãàóçåí Ñàìàðñêîé ãóá, .17 íîÿáðÿ 1892ã. Èíòåðåñóåò Ãþéî (Hujo) Èâàí Èâàíîâè÷ ðîäèëñÿ 17 íîÿáðÿ 1892 ãîäà. Ìîÿ ìàìà, â äîêóìåíòàõ î ðîæäåíèè äåòåé îí çíà÷èòñÿ êàê ôðàíöóç, à ñåé÷àñ âðîäå êàê ïîëó÷àåòñÿ , ÷òî îí áûë ïîâîëæñêèé íåìåö. | | |
WaldemarKeer Landau a.d.Isar Ñîîáùåíèé: 563 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2022 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 301 | Íàâåðõ ##
31 îêòÿáðÿ 2024 12:27 szia64 íàïèñàë: [q] îí çíà÷èòñÿ êàê ôðàíöóç, à ñåé÷àñ âðîäå êàê ïîëó÷àåòñÿ , ÷òî îí áûë ïîâîëæñêèé íåìåö.[/q]
Ó íåêîòîðûõ ïîâîëæñêèõ íåìöåâ ïðåäêè áûëè ñ ôðàíöóçñêèìè ôàìèëèÿìè, íî îíè áûëè íå ôðàíöóçû, à ôðàíêîÿçû÷íûå øâåéöàðöû. Òàê â ìî¸ì äðåâå åñòü Ãàëëóà. Ñîáðàë âñ¸, ÷òî ó ìåíÿ åñòü â àðõèâå ïî òåìå «Galloy-Gallowa». Âîçìîæíî, êîìó-òî áóäåò èíòåðåñíî.  Catharina Barbara Gallowa (*1832) èç ìîåãî äðåâà:  Ãàëëîâà èç äðåâà Ïèííåêåð:  Wolfgang Adolph Galloy:  Elisabeth Gallowa:  Gallowa – Korell:  Àìåðèêàíñêèå Galloway:  ---
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1 íîÿáðÿ 2024 10:27 szia64 íàïèñàë: [q] Èíòåðåñóåò Ãþéî (Hujo) Èâàí Èâàíîâè÷ ðîäèëñÿ 17 íîÿáðÿ 1892 ãîäà. Ìîÿ ìàìà, â äîêóìåíòàõ î ðîæäåíèè äåòåé îí çíà÷èòñÿ êàê ôðàíöóç, à ñåé÷àñ âðîäå êàê ïîëó÷àåòñÿ , ÷òî îí áûë ïîâîëæñêèé íåìåö.[/q]
Hujo (Ãóéî) - äåéñòâèòåëüíî, äàííàÿ ôàìèëèÿ ÷èñëèëàñü â êîëîíèè Øàôôãàóçåí (Âîëêîâî) ñ 1798 ãîäà. Íî êàê òîëüêî íå ïèñàëè å¸ - Guju (Gideon) / Guno(Gounod?) / Gukon / Guj / Gujo / Hujo. ---
Èùó Ìèëëåð, ßêîáè, Ðèòòåð, Êàéçåð, Äåðð, Áåëòö, Øìèäò, Ãàãåëüãàíö, Ëàíã, Áåêêåð, Ôåðòèõ, Ëèíäò, Øòåéíáðåõåð, Øåôåð, Øëåãåëü, Ãîìåð, Âèäåìàí, Ðóòö, Ëîðåíãåëü, Øåëëåð, Øòðîìáåðãåð, Øâàá, Âèçíåð, Çîììåð - ñ Ïîâîëæüÿ. Ðàéõåðò, Çîììåðôåëüä - èç Ñòàâðîïîëüÿ. | | |
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1 íîÿáðÿ 2024 14:41 sander íàïèñàë: [q] Guju (Gideon) / Guno(Gounod?) / Gukon / Guj / Gujo / Hujo[/q]
GuioSpelling Variations: Guio, Ãóþ, Ãó³î, Ãþ³î Settled in the Following Colonies: Norka Rosendamm Schaffhausen Discussion & Documentation: Jakob Geilo [sic], a single farmer, arrived at the port of Oranienbaum from Lübeck on 9 August 1766 aboard the Russian galliot Strelna under the command of Lieutenant Sornev. He settled in the Volga German colony of Norka on 15 August 1767 and is recorded there on the 1767 census in Household No. 165. Jakob Guio and his wife Katharina [Prester] are recorded on the 1775 census of Norka in Household No. 140 along with his in-laws Nikolaus & Elisabeth Prester. The widow of Jakob Guio from Norka and their children are recorded on the 1798 census of Schaffhausen in Household No. Sh41. This surname is recorded in Cyrillic as Ãþ³î and Ãóþ and Ãó³î. Various translations have recorded this surname as Guju, Gideon, Gudion, Gukon as well as Guio. Both the Oranienbaum passenger list and the 1767 census record that Jakob Guio came from the German region of Hessen. ---
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Èíòåðåñóåò Ãþéî (Hujo) Èâàí Èâàíîâè÷ ðîäèëñÿ 17 íîÿáðÿ 1892 ãîäà. Ìîÿ ìàìà, â äîêóìåíòàõ î ðîæäåíèè äåòåé îí çíà÷èòñÿ êàê ôðàíöóç, à ñåé÷àñ âðîäå êàê ïîëó÷àåòñÿ , ÷òî îí áûë ïîâîëæñêèé íåìåö.
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Hujo (Ãóéî) - äåéñòâèòåëüíî, äàííàÿ ôàìèëèÿ ÷èñëèëàñü â êîëîíèè Øàôôãàóçåí (Âîëêîâî) ñ 1798 ãîäà. Íî êàê òîëüêî íå ïèñàëè å¸ - Guju (Gideon) / Guno(Gounod?) / Gukon / Guj / Gujo / Hujo.
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Êàê åãî ôàìèëèÿ ïèñàëàñü ëàòèíèöåé ÿ íå çíàþ. Âî âñåõ äîêóìåíòàõ (ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î áðàêå, î ðîæäåíèè äåòåé) îí çàïèñàí êàê ôðàíöóç. Âåçäå çíà÷èëñÿ ïîä ôàìèëèåé Ãþéî, íàïèñàííîé ïî ðóññêè. Íà äàííûé ìîìåíò èíòåðåñíî íàéòè åãî äàííûå î ðîæäåíèè â ìåòðè÷åñêîé êíèãå çà 1892 ãîä, åñëè îíà ñîõðàíèëàñü. Âîò òîãäà ìîæíî áóäåò ïîíÿòü êàê ïèñàëàñü åãî ôàìèëèÿ ëàòèííèöåé. Äëÿ ìåíÿ åäèíñòâåííûì îáúÿñíåíèåì çàïèñåé î åãî ôðàíçóñêîì ïðîèñõîæäåíèè ìîæåò áûòü æåëàíèå ñêðûòü ñâî¸ íåìåöêîå ïðîèñõîæäåíèå. Íî ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû â 1914-1918 ãîäàõ ýòî îáúÿñíèìî, íî ïî÷åìó ïîòîì ? È Èâàí Èâàíîâè÷ îí áûë âñåãäà èëè áûëè äðóãèå âàðèàíòû?  äàííûé ìîìåíò, êîãäà âåðñèÿ ôðàíöóç ïðèåõàë â Ðîññèþ, ñòàë êðàñíîàðìåéöåì, ñìåíèë èìÿ. êàæåòñÿ ìíå íàìíîãî áîëåå íåëîãè÷íîé, ÷åì ïîâîëæñêèé íåìåö ñòàë êðàñíîàðìåéöåì, ñêðûë ñâîå íåìåöêîå ïðîèñõîæäåíèå .  | | |
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1 íîÿáðÿ 2024 16:27 1 íîÿáðÿ 2024 16:27 Æèçíü íåìöåâ Ïîâîëæüÿ â ãîäû ÏÌÂ.  Èñòî÷íèê: Ãåðìàí À.À. Íåìåöêàÿ àâòîíîìèÿ íà Âîëãå. 1918 – 1941. – Ì.: "ÌÑÍÊ-ïðåññ", 2007. Ñ. 14 – 15. ---
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