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þæà Åêàòåðèíáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 1072 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 10278 | Íàâåðõ ##
20 àâãóñòà 2013 7:22 20 àâãóñòà 2013 7:23 Zarya66 Ïåðåâîä÷èê ïèøåò òàê: F CZORTKOW, Òåëü-Àâèâ, 1967 Èñòî÷íèê Íîìåð ñòðàíèöû: 387 Ôàìèëèÿ: Rotenshtreikh Èìÿ: Ñàðà Ïîë: Æåíñêèé Ñåìåéíîå ïîëîæåíèå: æåíàò Ïåðâàÿ ñóïðóãà Èìÿ: Shiye Ïîñòîÿííîå ìåñòî æèòåëüñòâà: Czortkow, Czortkow, Òàðíîïîëü, Ïîëüøà Ïîèñê æåðòâ äëÿ âñåõ çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûõ â êà÷åñòâå ïðîæèâàþùèõ â ýòîì ìåñòå Òèï ìàòåðèàëà: Ñïèñîê óáèòûõ åâðååâ èç êíèã Èçêîð Item ID: 7123341 | | |
sang ÑØÀ Ñîîáùåíèé: 1248 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2348 | Íàâåðõ ##
21 àâãóñòà 2013 0:14 21 àâãóñòà 2013 0:17 Zarya66 íàïèñàë: [q]  2004 ãîäó ìîÿ ìàìà îñòàâèëà òàì èíôîðìàöèþ , à âîò ýòî ÷òî çíà÷èò?[/q]
Òàíÿ, ýòà èíôîðìàöèÿ ñ yad vashem. Ýòà âûïèñêà èç êíèãè MEMORIAL BOOK OF CZORTKOW (Ïàìÿòíàÿ êíèãà ×îðòêîâà), ñòð. 387. Áîëåå ïîäðîáíîé èíôîðìàöèè òàì íåò. Ïî ÑØÀ ôàìèëèÿ Ðîòåíøòðàéõ âñòðå÷àåòñÿ, íî òåõ èìåí êîòîðûå Âû èùèòå ÿ íå íàøëà. Åñòü ñåìüÿ âûåõàâøàÿ â ÑØÀ ñ ýòîé ôàìèëèåé åùå äî 1925 ã. èç ×îðòêîâà. Ìîæåò Âàøà áàáóøêà ãîâîðèëà îá ýòèõ ðîäñòâåííèêàõ? Äëÿ òîãî, ÷òî áû íàéòè òåõ, êòî ìîã âûæèòü âî âðåìÿ Õîëîêîñòà èëè óçíàòü ãäå îíè ïîãèáëè, áóäåò ëó÷øå âñåãî îáðàòèòüñÿ â Êðàñíûé êðåñò ïî ññûëêå êîòîðóþ ÿ Âàì äàâàëà âûøå. Òå êòî-òî îñòàëñÿ â æèâûõ, ìîãëè ñìåíèòü èìÿ è ôàìèëèþ. Åñëè îíè íàéäóò êàêóþ íèáóäü èíôîðìàöèþ î Âàøèõ ðîäñòâåííèêàõ îíè ñîîáùàò èì î òîì ÷òî èõ èùóò. Ñåìüÿ êîòîðàÿ âûåõàëà èç ×îðòêîâà d 1911 ã. Rotenstreich, Leiser M 42y M Austria, Austrian Czortkow, Austria Rotenstreich, Cheoa F 30y M Austria, Austrian Czortkow, Austria Rotenstreich, Benjamin F 10m S Austria, Austrian Czortkow, Austria
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21 àâãóñòà 2013 9:25 21 àâãóñòà 2013 9:32 Ñïàñèáî â êðàñíûé êðåñò íàïèñàëà , â ÷åðòêîâ óæå íàø ðàéîííûé çàãñ ñäåëàë çàïðîñ ïî äîêóìåíòàì, áàáóøêè ê ñîæàëåíèþ òîæå íåò óæå â æèâûõ òàê ÷òî áóäó ñàìà èñêàòü íà÷íó ïîòèõîíå÷êó --- Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î Ðîòåíøòðàéõ | | |
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óêðàèíà Ñîîáùåíèé: 15 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1 | Íàâåðõ ##
11 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2013 11:24 äîáðûé äåíü ÿ íîâè÷îê , èùó ìîãèëû /,à ìîæåò áûòü åñòü ðîäñòâåííèêè,/â ñøà , ìîé ïðàäåä Êëåïà÷ Þðèé /ãåîðãèé?/è ïðàáàáóøêà Êëåïà÷ âûåõàëè â ñøà ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî â 1910- 1914 ãã èç Àâñòðî -Âåíãðèè /òèïåðü Óêðàèíà, Çàêàðòàòòå ,Óæãîðîä/, â 1914 ã14 íîÿáðÿ ó íèõ ðîäèëàñü äî÷ü Êëåïà÷ Áàðáîðà /íàïèñàíî ÔÐÀÍÊËÈÍ/ , âîçðàñòå 5-7 ëåò Áàðáîðó ïðèâîçÿò â Óêðàèíó /òîãäà Àâñòðî-Âåíãðèþ/ ñ òåì ,÷òî îíà ñèðîòà ,ðîäèòåëè óìåðëè , Åñëè âîçìîæíî íàéòè â àðõèâàõ ñøà ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè èëè ìåòðèêó Êëåïà÷ Áàðáîðû / òàê êàê îíàðîäèëàñü â ñøà / òî âîçìîæíî è äàëüíåéøóþ èíôîðìàöèþ, ïîäñêàæèòå ÷òî íèáóòü , ñïîñèáî, --- èùó ñëåäû ïðåäêîâ â ñøà | | |
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11 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2013 11:55 laslovitch
à êàê ïðàáàáóøêó çâàëè? Âàì èçâåñòíî ãäå â ÑØÀ îíè æèëè? Åùå õîòü ÷òî-íèáóäü èçâåñòíî? Äàòû ðîæäåíèÿ ïðàðîäèòåëåé? | | |
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óêðàèíà Ñîîáùåíèé: 15 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1 | Íàâåðõ ##
11 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2013 12:08 èìÿ ïðàáàáóøêè íåèçâåñòíî ,íî çíàåì ÷òî â ñøà îí åõàëè êàê ìóæ è æåíà ãäå æèëè íåèçâåñòíî äàòû ðîæäåíèÿ òîæå íåèçâåñíî ïðèìåðíî èì áûëî ïî 22-26 ã Êëåïà÷ Þðèé /ïî ðàññêàçàì /óìåð â 1914ã íî äîêóìåíòîâ íåáûëî --- èùó ñëåäû ïðåäêîâ â ñøà | | |
Andrey Maslennikov Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 4200 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2671 | Íàâåðõ ##
11 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2013 12:43 laslovitchÂîò, ÷òî ìîãó ñêàçàòü ïî áàçàì Ancestry.com: 1. Íè îäíîãî Êëåïà÷ ðîæäåííîãî 1914 ãîäîì - íåò 2. Åñòü Áàðáàðà Ôðàíêëèí, ðîäèëàñü â 1914 â øòàòå Ìàññà÷óñåòñ, íî îíà, ñóäÿ ïî âñåìó, ïðîæèëà òàì âñþ æèçíü. 3. Åñòü Áàðáàðà Ôðàíêëèí, ðîäèëàñü â 1914 â Íüþ-Éîðêå, íî íà 1930 ãîä îíà æèëà, ñóäÿ ïî âñåìó â ïðèåìíîé ñåìüå â ÑØÀ 3. Åñòü Áàðáàðà Ôðàíêëèí, ðîäèëàñü â 1914 â Êàëèôîðíèè, óìåðëà â 2006 òàì æå. 4. Þðèÿ Êëåïà÷ â ñïèñêàõ èììèãðàíòîâ - íåò. Ãåîðãèÿ òîæå. Óìåðøåãî â 1914 ãîäó òîæå. Åñòü åùå âîò ýòî: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V46D-6M2Íî, äàííûõ ìàëî. Ñëèøêîì ìíîãî âàðèàíòîâ äëÿ ïîèñêà. | | |
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óêðàèíà Ñîîáùåíèé: 15 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1 | Íàâåðõ ##
11 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2013 13:26 ôðàíêëèí åòî ãîðîä èëè îêðóã , ÿ èñêàë â àðõèâàõ Çàêàðïàòòÿ ìíå ñêàçàëè åñëè Êëåïà÷ Áàðáîðà ðîäèëàñü â ñøà íàäî èñêàòü òàì ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè îíî äîëæíî áûòü â àðõèâàõ ,, ìîæåò åñòü ñïèñêè ïðèáûâøèõ è âûåõàâøèõ 1910 -1920 ãîäàõ èëè èíòåðíèðîâàíûõ èìèõðàíòîâ --- èùó ñëåäû ïðåäêîâ â ñøà | | |
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11 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2013 13:40 laslovitch íàïèñàë: [q] ôðàíêëèí åòî ãîðîä èëè îêðóã [/q] Franklin, Alabama, a community in Macon County, Alabama Franklin, Monroe County, Alabama, an unincorporated community in Monroe County, Alabama Franklin, Arkansas Franklin, California (disambiguation) Franklin, Connecticut Franklin, Georgia Franklin, Idaho Franklin, Illinois Franklin, Indiana Franklin, Iowa Franklin, Kentucky Franklin, Louisiana Franklin, Maine Franklin, Massachusetts Franklin, Michigan Franklin, Minnesota Franklin, Missouri Franklin, Nebraska Franklin, New Hampshire Franklin, New Jersey Franklin, New York (disambiguation) Franklin, North Carolina Franklin, Ohio Franklin, Pennsylvania Franklin, Pennsylvania (disambiguation) Franklin, Tennessee Franklin, Texas Franklin, Vermont Franklin, Virginia Franklin, West Virginia Franklin, Wisconsin (disambiguation) Franklin Mountains (Alaska), a mountain range in northern Alaska Mount Franklin (New Hampshire), in the White Mountains Franklin County (disambiguation) Franklin Township (disambiguation)Íå âàðèàíò... Èç òåõ äàííûõ ÷òî ÿ ïðîñìîòðåë, íè÷åãî íå ïîäõîäèò, ëèáî ïî ãîäàì, ëèáî ïî èìåíàì. Íóæíû äðóãèå çàöåïêè. | | |
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11 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2013 14:07 11 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2013 14:26 ìîæåò èíôîðìîöèÿ ÷òî âñå êîðàáëè ,ïðèáûâøèå èç åâðîïû çà 1910 -1920ã ïðîõîäèëè ÷åðåç ïîðò Ellis Island . ìîæåò óçíàòü êàê çàïèñûâàëè ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè â 1914 ã â ñøà â ñåìè òðóäîâûõ -èìèãðàíòîâ , ìîæåò îíè æèëè â ëàãåðå äëÿ èíòåðíèðîâàíûõ ,åñëè Êëåïà÷ Áàðáîðó îòïðàâëÿëè îáðàòíî çíà÷èòü áûëè çàïèñè îòêóäà è êóäà /à ìîæåò áûòü è ÔÐÅÍÊËÈÍ/ --- èùó ñëåäû ïðåäêîâ â ñøà | | |
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