[q] Àðõèâû Ïîëüøè https://archiwa.gov.pl/en/ Ïîëüñêàÿ ñëóæáà ãåíåàëîãèè Èäèòå ïî ññûëêå >>> Ñïðàâî÷íèêè è Àäðåñ-Êàëåíäàðè Êîðîëåâñòâà Ïîëüñêîãî https://book-olds.ru/BookLibra...skogo.html Ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè - http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/ Ýâàêóèðîâàííûå ïîëÿêè 1943-1946 â Íîâîñèáèðñêóþ, Êåìåðîâñêóþ îáëàñòè è â Àëòàéñêèé êðàé. Àðõèâ Àëòàéñêîãî êðàÿ (ÃÀÀÊ) - http://www.archiv.ab.ru/files/inventory/%D0%A0921-1.pdf[/q]
Ïðîñüáà ê ó÷àñòíèêàì, ðàáîòàþùèì â ðàçäåëå - 1. Íå êîïèðîâàòü ìíîãîñòóïåí÷àòûå äèàëîãè ïðè îòâåòå. Îñòàâëÿéòå òîëüêî òó ÷àñòü, íà êîòîðóþ îòâå÷àåòå. 2. Äëÿ áëàãîäàðíîñòè èñïîëüçóéòå òðè âàðèàíòà - * Ðåéòèíã (+/-) * Ëàéê * Îòçûâ â Ïðîôèëå ó÷àñòíèêà çà ñîîáùåíèå 3. Íå ïèøèòå òåêñòû ñîîáùåíèé òîëüêî áîëüøèìè áóêâàìè. 4. Îáðàùàéòå âíèìàíèå íà íàçâàíèÿ òåì è ðàñøèôðîâêó ïîäòåì ïðè êðåïëåíèå ñâîåãî ïîñòà. 5. Ïðåæäå, ÷åì îòêðûòü íîâóþ òåìó, ïðîëèñòàéòå ðàçäåë. Íå íàäî äóáëèðîâàòü óæå îòêðûòûå òåìû. |
Èùåì ïðåäêîâ è ïîòîìêîâ â Ïîëüøå
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| Wolanskiigor Íîâè÷îê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2017 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 0 | Ââåðõ #17 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 3:11 KubaJj íàïèñàë: [q] Przepraszam,ale bliska osoba Pana rodziny ,rozsiewa fałszywe pogłoski na temat miejsca pobytu Najjaśniejszego Pana.[/q]
Âû ïðè ñâîåì ìíåíèè, ÿ æå ïðè ñâîåì íèêòî ó ìåíÿ â ñåìüå íå âðåò âû ïðîñòî íå çíàéòå èñòîðèþ ìîåé ñåìüè. Îäíàêî ÿ âàñ ïåðåóáåæäàòü íå áóäó... | | |
| Wladzislaw | Ââåðõ #17 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 13:44 Anna Chu íàïèñàë: [q] Anna's father was on her marriage certificate as: Joseph Victor Siemasz, engineer.[/q]
Ôàìèëèÿ â ïîëüñêîì íàïèñàíèè, ÷èòàåòñÿ êàê "Ñåìàø". Ìîæåò áûòü, îáðåçàíî îò "Ñåìàøêî"??  ñåðòèôèêàòå äîëæåí áûë áûòü ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ. Ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè Ñìîëåíñêîãî ðèìñê.-êàòîëè÷åñêîãî êîñò¸ëà. --- Ñîáðàíèå Áåëîðóññêîé Øëÿõòû — nobility.by
Èññëåäîâàíèÿ íà çàêàç: Áåëàðóñü (øëÿõòà), Ëèòâà (øëÿõòà), Ëàòâèÿ (øëÿõòà Ëàòãàëèè è Êóðëÿíäèè; êàòîëèêè), Óêðàèíà (øëÿõòà; êàòîëèêè Êèåâùèíû, Âîëûíè, ×åðíèãîâùèíû), Ðîññèÿ (äâîðÿíå; êàòîëèêè).  Ëè÷íûå — òîëüêî çàêàçû. | | |
Anna ChuÓ÷àñòíèê  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 90 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 79 | Ââåðõ #17 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 22:54 17 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 22:55 ê ñîæàëåíèþ ïðî ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ ïî÷åìó-òî íè÷åãî íå èçâåñòíî. Íî âîò ìíå ïðèñëàëè ôîòîãðàôèþ Àííû ñ å¸ ñûíîâüÿìè, ãîä ñíèìêà òîæå íå èçâåñòåí :(
 --- ×óéêèíû/×óêèíû, Âÿëîâû, Äüÿ÷êîâû, Óõàíîâû, Äóëüíåâû (Òóëüñêàÿ îáë, Áîãîðîäèöêèé óåçä); Òîëìà÷¸âû, Ìèõèíû, Ìàöíåâû, Æóðàâëåâû (Òàìáîâñêàÿ îáë, Êîçëîâñêèé óåçä); Ãóáèíû, Áàéêèíû (Òàìáîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü, Ñïàññêèé óåçä - Ìîðäîâèÿ) | | |
| Wladzislaw | Ââåðõ #18 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 1:30 18 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 1:31 Anna Chu íàïèñàë: [q] ê ñîæàëåíèþ ïðî ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ ïî÷åìó-òî íè÷åãî íå èçâåñòíî.[/q]
Ýòî âñ¸ ïîòîìó, ÷òî ìûñëè âèòàþò. À äëÿ ïîèñêîâ ãåíåàëîãèè íóæíû òî÷íûå ôàêòû. Åñëè ïèøóò îá èìåíè îòöà â ñåðòèôèêàòå, çíà÷èò îíûé ñóùåñòâóåò, à çíà÷èò, òàì äîëæåí áûòü âîçðàñò. Çíà÷èòåëüíî áîëåå ïîëåçíà êîïèè ñåðòèôèêàòîâ î áðàêàõ è êîïèè ìàíèôåñòîâ; åñëè íåò, íóæíî çàïðàøèâàòü. Ñîáðàâ äîêóìåíòû îò ÿïîíñêèõ, áðèòàíñêèõ è àìåðèêàíñêèõ âëàñòåé — ìîæíî çíà÷èòåëüíî ïðîäâèíóòüñÿ â ïîíèìàíèè îò êíÿæîí è øïèîíîâ ê ðåàëüíîñòè  . --- Ñîáðàíèå Áåëîðóññêîé Øëÿõòû — nobility.by
Èññëåäîâàíèÿ íà çàêàç: Áåëàðóñü (øëÿõòà), Ëèòâà (øëÿõòà), Ëàòâèÿ (øëÿõòà Ëàòãàëèè è Êóðëÿíäèè; êàòîëèêè), Óêðàèíà (øëÿõòà; êàòîëèêè Êèåâùèíû, Âîëûíè, ×åðíèãîâùèíû), Ðîññèÿ (äâîðÿíå; êàòîëèêè).  Ëè÷íûå — òîëüêî çàêàçû. | | |
| KubaJj Ó÷àñòíèê
Ãðîäíî Ñîîáùåíèé: 47 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2018 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 21 | Ââåðõ #18 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 15:52 18 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 16:01 Anna Chu Åñòü â Óêðàèíå Ôàìèëèÿ Siemasz â ïðèõîäàõ (parafiach): Stanisławów miasto,Skałat,Korolówka,Lwów św. Anton,Sambor
 íàñåëåííûõ ïóíêòàõ Stanisławów,Skowiatyn,Podwołoczyska,Kołodziejówka åñòü ñîáûòèÿ â ìåòðè÷åñêèõ êíèãàõ ñ ýòîé ôàìèëèåé | | |
| Wladzislaw | Ââåðõ #18 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 19:49 KubaJj íàïèñàë: [q] Åñòü â Óêðàèíå Ôàìèëèÿ Siemasz â ïðèõîäàõ (parafiach): Stanisławów miasto,Skałat,Korolówka,Lwów św. Anton,Sambor[/q]
À ðàçâå ýòî èìååò îòíîøåíèå ê Ðîññèéñêîé Èìïåðèè? Íåçà÷åì ëèøíèìè äàííûìè çàïóòûâàòü. | | |
| KubaJj Ó÷àñòíèê
Ãðîäíî Ñîîáùåíèé: 47 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2018 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 21 | Ââåðõ #18 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 20:38 18 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 20:39 Wladzislaw íàïèñàë: [q] [/q]
[q] Anna Chu Íè÷åãî íå èçâåñòíî î òîì, ãäå îíà áûëà ðîæäåíà, êðîìå òîãî, ÷òî îíà îäíàæäû áûëà îòìå÷åíà â êîðàáåëüíîì ìàíèôåñòå çà 1921ã, ãäå áûëî ñêàçàíî, ÷òî îíà èç Ìîñêâû, Ïîëüøà.[/q]
Íè÷åãî íå èçâåñòíî è ãäå îíà âûøëà çàìóæ ? ,ãäå ðîäèëñÿ ìóæ.ýìèãðàíòû ãîâîðèëè Ïîëüøà (Zabór rosyjski) a çàïèñàëè èõ êàê RUSIAN , POLAND èëè Moscow,Poland . | | |
| usenta Íà÷èíàþùèé
Ñîîáùåíèé: 33 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2018 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 6 | Ââåðõ #21 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 15:16 Äîáðûé äåíü! Èùó äàííûå ïðî Ñîáèðàé Ïåòðà (Êàçèìèðà) Ëàâðåíòüåâè÷à, ðîæäåíèÿ ïî ðàçíûì ñâåäåíèÿì 1885, 1887 ãîä, õîòåëà áû óçíàòü ïðî åãî ñåìüþ. Áûë âûñëàí èç ñ. Êàùèíöû, Õìåëüíèöêîé îáëàñòè â 1930 ãîäó.
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| usenta Íà÷èíàþùèé
Ñîîáùåíèé: 33 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2018 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 6 | Ââåðõ #21 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 15:22 Ôîòî ïðàäåäà îòìå÷åíî êðåñòèêîì. Ðîäèëñÿ â Ïîëüøå, Êåëüñêîãî âîåâîäñòâà.
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Anna ChuÓ÷àñòíèê  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 90 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 79 | Ââåðõ #21 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 21:44 Wladzislaw, KubaJ, ñïàñèáî çà êîììåíòàðèè!
Ìíå ïðèñëàëè åùå ÷àñòü "ôàêòîâ", êîòîðûå óäàëîñü íàéòè ïîòîìêàì ñåñòðû Àííû. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ áûëî òðè ñåñòðû:
1. Anna Semashko Born around 1888 Born likely in Saratov, but technically unknown One distinction is that Anna may have used the name Siezmash on some documents
2. Stanislava Semashko Born April 12 1891 Born in Saratov
3. Marie Semashko Born December 23 1897 Born in Saratov
Ïðî èõ ðîäèòåëåé: Alexandra Kruzis was married to Victor Semashko, who worked as an engineer in the railroad industry. We understand that they were fairly well off, and seemingly some degree of nobility. They were a Catholic family, who lived on the river. From my research, it would seem that Alexandra was part of the Volga German community in Saratov. My understanding is that Victor Semashko (or maybe it would be Alexandra Kruzis?) was at least partially Polish. My family has always known the name to be Alexandra Kruzis, but it is possible that her full name was Christine Alexandra Christianovna Kruzis. At some point, likely when my Great Grandmother was around 12 (but not sure), they moved to Khabarovsk.
Àëåêñàíäðà Êðóçèñ âûøëà çàìóæ çà Âèêòîðà Ñåìàøêî, êîòîðûé ðàáîòàë èíæåíåðîì â æåëåçíîäîðîæíîé èíäóñòðèè. Ìû ïîíèìàåì, ÷òî îíè áûëè äîñòàòî÷íî îáåñïå÷åíû è, ïî-âèäèìîìó, â êàêîé-òî ñòåïåíè áëàãîðîäíû. Îíè áûëè èç êàòîëè÷åñêîé ñåìüè, êòî æèë íà ðåêå. Èç ìîèõ ïîèñêîâ, âûõîäèò, ÷òî Àëåêñàíäðà áûëà ÷àñòüþ êîìüþíèòè âîëæñêèõ íåìöåâ â Ñàðàòîâå. ß òàê ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî Âèêòîð Ñåìàøêî (èëè ìîæåò ýòî áûëà Àëåêñàíäðà Êðóçèñ?) áûë ïîëÿêîì. Ìîÿ ñåìüÿ âñåãäà çíàëà èìÿ Àëåêñàíäðà Êðóçèñ, íî âîçìîæíî å¸ ïîëíîå èìÿ áûëî Êðèñòèíà Àëåêñàíäðà Êðèñòèíîâíà Êðóçèñ. Ïðè ýòîì, ïîõîæå ìîåé ïðàáàáóøêå áûëî îêîëî 12, êîãäà îíè ïåðååõàëè â Õàáàðîâñê (ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ýòî ïðèìåðíî 1909ã)
Èçâèíèòå, ÷òî äàþ íå âñþ èíôîðìàöèþ ñðàçó. Ñàìà ïî ÷àñòÿì å¸ ïîëó÷àþ.
Ïîéäó ñåé÷àñ èçó÷àòü Ñàðàòîâ.
Íî åñëè âàì ïîïàäóòñÿ ïîäîáíûå èìåíà-ôàìèëèè - áóäó î÷åíü ðàäà ïîìîùè, ìîæåòå ïèñàòü â ËÑ.
Ñïàñèáî! --- ×óéêèíû/×óêèíû, Âÿëîâû, Äüÿ÷êîâû, Óõàíîâû, Äóëüíåâû (Òóëüñêàÿ îáë, Áîãîðîäèöêèé óåçä); Òîëìà÷¸âû, Ìèõèíû, Ìàöíåâû, Æóðàâëåâû (Òàìáîâñêàÿ îáë, Êîçëîâñêèé óåçä); Ãóáèíû, Áàéêèíû (Òàìáîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü, Ñïàññêèé óåçä - Ìîðäîâèÿ) | | |
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