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18 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 13:33 Ìíå ïðèøëî ïèñüìî.
Hello
I saw your name on a Russian genealogy website and I wonder if you can help me.
The father of my deceased father in law emigrated to the US and appears on the Ellis Island website:
Dawio SOLOTAROW, aged 55, arrived at New York on 2 Jan.1909 from Russia via Liverpool, England on the ship Lusitania.
He gave his birthplace as Jelisanetjous, Russia.
I can't find it at all. Do you know where this place is?
With best regards
Robin Bather
Metepec
Mexico
Ìîæåò, êòî çíàåò, ÷òî òàêîå ìîæåò áûòü Jelisanetjous?
À òàê, îí Çîëîòàðåâ, íàâåðíî...
ß åìó àäðåñ äàì ýòîé òåìû, åñëè îòâåòèòå, áóäåò çäîðîâî.... | | |
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 îðèãèíàëüíîé çàïèñè ÿ áû ïðî÷èòàëà ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ êàê Åëèñàâåòãðàä.
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18 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 14:05 Ludmilla íàïèñàë: [q] Jelisanetjous[/q]
Ïîñêîëüêó èìåíè Äàâèî â Ðîññèè íåò è íå áûëî, ôàìèëèþ Çîëîòàðåâ (ïîëíîñòüþ ñîãëñíà ñ Ëþäìèëîé) çàïèñàëè âîïðåêè "ïðàâèëüíîìó" íà àíãëèéñêîì Zolotarev-Zolotaryov êàê SOLOTAROW, çíà÷èò, â â ïàññàæèðñêèé ëèñò Äàâèäà Çîëîòàðåâà çàïèñûâàë íå îí ñàì, à ñ åãî ñëîâ, íà ñëóõ, êòî-òî, íå âëàäåþùèé, åñòåñòâåííî, ðóññêèì ÿçûêîì. Ñëåäîâàòåëüíî, íàçâàíèå ìåñòà æèòåëüñòâà (ðîæäåíèÿ) ïàññàæèðà çàïèñàëè òîæå 2êàê óñëûøàëè". À óñëûøàëè ÷òî-òî âðîäå [jelisav(n?)jet'uî] - ÿçûê ñëîìàåøü äëÿ àíãëîÿçû÷íîãî, äà? Ïîýòîìó, ïî ìîåìó ìíåíèþ, ñêîðåå âñåãî ýòî Åëèñàâåòèíî. Æàëü, êîíå÷íî, ÷òî íàñåëåííûõ ìåñò ñ òàêèì íàçâàíèåì â Ðîññèéñêîé Èìïåðèè áûëî ñëè-èøêîì ìíîãî...  Íî, îòòàëêèâàÿñü îò äàòû åãî ïðèáûòèÿ â ÑØÀ (1909), ïëþñ äîðîãà èç Àíãëèè, - âåðîÿòíî îí óåõàë èç Ðîññèè ãäå-òî â 1907-1908 ãîäó. Çíà÷èò, ñóäÿ ïî èìåíè è èñòîðèè, èñêàòü íàäî åãî ïðåäêîâ òàì, ãäå ìîãëè æèòü â òî âðåìÿ åâðåè. Ïðè÷åì, óåõàë Äàâèä Çîëîòàðåâ, ñêîðåå âñåãî, ïîñëå ïîãðîìîâ. Íàäî èññëåäîâàòü èñòîðèþ ïîãðîìîâ äëÿ ýòîãî, ÷òîáû óòî÷íèòü, ãäå áûëî ýòî ñàìîÿ Åëèñàâåòèíî. ---
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Äà, ñêîðåå âñåãî Âû ïðàâû! ß ïðîñòî íå óñïåëà ïîñìîòðåòü îðèãèíàëüíûå ñïèñêè... ---
Íàòàëèÿ. U5a1d2a ˸òîâû (Ðÿç.), Ñóðèêîâû, Áàøèëîâû, Ñóðîâû (Ïîäìîñêîâüå), Ñóááîòèíû, Ñòîëÿðîâû, Àíäðèàíîâû, Äîëæåíêî (Åéñê), Ùåðáèíû (Ïîëòàâ. è Êóáàíü) Íåéãåáàóåð. http://rusgenealogy.clan.su/ Âñå ìîè è ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ äàííûå òîëüêî äëÿ ãåíåàëîãèè. | | |
YulitaÍà ïåðåêðåñòêå òðåõ âåêîâ Êèåâ Ñîîáùåíèé: 3376 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1807 | Íàâåðõ ##
18 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 14:13 nmash íàïèñàë: [q] èìåíè Äàâèî â Ðîññèè íåò è íå áûëî[/q]
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