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9 ìàðòà 2018 21:36 9 ìàðòà 2018 21:40 Southeast Europe The Southeast Europe cluster consists of present day populations from the areas of Italy, Greece, and the western Balkan states from Bulgaria to Croatia. Present day populations in the Southeast Europe cluster show some of the highest rates of genetic relatedness to the second wave of migration into Europe roughly 11,000 years ago. This wave of migration consisted of Neolithic farmers from the Fertile Crescent and expanded primarily into southern Europe, incorporating small scattered European hunter-gatherer communities along their path. The island of Sardinia, having early evidence of post-glacial hunter-gatherer inhabitants, was not permanently settled until this migration of Neolithic farmers from the fertile crescent populated it roughly 8,000–7,000 years ago. Although a key position in early Mediterranean trade routes, the populations of Sardinia remained relatively isolated genetically and today, represent a particularly unique connection to Southeast European Neolithic ancestry. Populations within the Italian peninsula and the Greek and Balkan states, however, display more genetic diversity having experienced waves of migration and the rise and fall of numerous civilizations. The ancient populations on the Italian peninsula generally consisted of the Greek colonies in the south, Etruscan cities in west-central Italy and north of Rome, and Italian groups, such as Samnites and the Umbrians, who inhabited Rome and central Italy. The western Balkan States mostly consisted of small kingdoms until the rise of Alexander the Great’s father Philip II of Macedon (present day Macedonia). These early states had a wide influence as they were shaped by Alexander the Great’s campaigns, the Roman expansion, and migrations from Slavic tribes who were forced from the Carpathian Mountains by Germanic tribes in the 5th–6th centuries CE. The Southeast Europe cluster is home to civilizations that many consider to have founded the principles of Western civilization and continue to influence modern politics, art, and architecture. Greek and Roman influence spans the western and southern regions of this cluster, while the influence of the Hellenistic world of Macedonia and Alexander the Great encompass the Western Balkan states.  Þãî-Âîñòî÷íàÿ Åâðîïà Ãðóïïà Þãî-Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïû ñîñòîèò èç ñîâðåìåííûõ ïîïóëÿöèé Èòàëèè, Ãðåöèè è çàïàäíûõ áàëêàíñêèõ ãîñóäàðñòâ îò Áîëãàðèè äî Õîðâàòèè. Ñåãîäíÿøíèå ïîïóëÿöèè â ãðóïïå Þãî-Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïû ïîêàçûâàþò îäíè èç ñàìûõ âûñîêèõ ïîêàçàòåëåé ãåíåòè÷åñêîé ñâÿçè ñî âòîðîé âîëíîé ìèãðàöèè â Åâðîïó ïðèìåðíî 11 000 ëåò íàçàä. Ýòà âîëíà ìèãðàöèè ñîñòîÿëà èç íåîëèòè÷åñêèõ çåìëåäåëüöåâ èç Ïëîäîðîäíîãî Ïîëóìåñÿöà è ðàñïðîñòðàíèëàñü ãëàâíûì îáðàçîì íà Þæíóþ Åâðîïó, âêëþ÷èâ â ñåáÿ íåáîëüøèå ðàçáðîñàííûå åâðîïåéñêèå îáùèíû îõîòíèêîâ-ñîáèðàòåëåé íà ñâîåì ïóòè. Îñòðîâ Ñàðäèíèÿ, èìåþùèé ðàííèå ñâèäåòåëüñòâà îáèòàíèÿ ïîñòëåäíèêîâûõ îõîòíèêîâ-ñîáèðàòåëåé, íå áûë îêîí÷àòåëüíî çàñåëåí äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà ýòà ìèãðàöèÿ íåîëèòè÷åñêèõ çåìëåäåëüöåâ èç Ïëîäîðîäíîãî Ïîëóìåñÿöà íå çàñåëèëà åãî ïðèìåðíî 8000-7000 ëåò íàçàä. Õîòÿ Ñàðäèíèÿ çàíèìàåò îäíî èç êëþ÷åâûõ ìåñò íà ðàííèõ ñðåäèçåìíîìîðñêèõ òîðãîâûõ ïóòÿõ, ïîïóëÿöèè Ñàðäèíèè îñòàâàëèñü îòíîñèòåëüíî èçîëèðîâàííûìè ãåíåòè÷åñêè è â íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ ïðåäñòàâëÿþò ñîáîé îñîáåííî óíèêàëüíóþ ñâÿçü ñ íåîëèòè÷åñêèìè ïðåäêàìè Þãî-Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïû. Îäíàêî íàñåëåíèå èòàëüÿíñêîãî ïîëóîñòðîâà, à òàêæå ãðå÷åñêèõ è áàëêàíñêèõ ãîñóäàðñòâ äåìîíñòðèðóåò âñå áîëüøåå ãåíåòè÷åñêîå ðàçíîîáðàçèå, ïåðåæèâ âîëíû ìèãðàöèè, à òàêæå ïîäúåì è ïàäåíèå ìíîãî÷èñëåííûõ öèâèëèçàöèé. Äðåâíåå íàñåëåíèå íà èòàëüÿíñêîì ïîëóîñòðîâå, êàê ïðàâèëî, ñîñòîÿëî èç ãðå÷åñêèõ êîëîíèé íà þãå, ýòðóññêèõ ãîðîäîâ â çàïàäíî-öåíòðàëüíîé Èòàëèè è ê ñåâåðó îò Ðèìà, è èòàëüÿíñêèõ ãðóïï, òàêèõ êàê ñàìíèòîâ è óìáðèàíöåâ, êîòîðûå íàñåëÿëè Ðèì è öåíòðàëüíóþ Èòàëèþ. Çàïàäíîáàëêàíñêèå ãîñóäàðñòâà â îñíîâíîì ñîñòîÿëè èç íåáîëüøèõ öàðñòâ äî ïîÿâëåíèÿ îòöà Àëåêñàíäðà Ìàêåäîíñêîãî Ôèëèïïà II (ñîâðåìåííàÿ Ìàêåäîíèÿ). Ýòè ðàííèå ãîñóäàðñòâà îêàçàëè áîëüøîå âëèÿíèå, ïîñêîëüêó îíè áûëè ñôîðìèðîâàíû ïîõîäàìè Àëåêñàíäðà Ìàêåäîíñêîãî, ðèìñêîé ýêñïàíñèåé è ìèãðàöèÿìè èç ñëàâÿíñêèõ ïëåìåí, êîòîðûå áûëè âûòåñåíû èç Êàðïàòñêèõ ãîð ãåðìàíñêèìè ïëåìåíàìè â V-VI âåêàõ íàøåé ýðû. Ãðóïïà Þãî-Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïû ÿâëÿåòñÿ äîìîì äëÿ öèâèëèçàöèé, êîòîðûõ ìíîãèå ñ÷èòàþò ôóíäàìåíòàìè ïðèíöèïîâ çàïàäíîé öèâèëèçàöèè è êîòîðûå ïðîäîëæàþò âëèÿòü íà ñîâðåìåííóþ ïîëèòèêó, èñêóññòâî è àðõèòåêòóðó. Ãðå÷åñêîå è Ðèìñêîå âëèÿíèå îõâàòûâàåò çàïàäíûå è þæíûå ðåãèîíû ýòîé ãðóïïû, â òî âðåìÿ êàê âëèÿíèå ýëëèíèñòè÷åñêîãî ìèðà Ìàêåäîíèè è Àëåêñàíäðà Ìàêåäîíñêîãî îõâàòûâàåò çàïàäíîáàëêàíñêèå ãîñóäàðñòâà. --- Ïîìîãó ðàñøèôðîâàòü ðóêîïèñíûé äðåâíèé òåêñò
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9 ìàðòà 2018 21:42 9 ìàðòà 2018 22:35 East Europe The East Europe cluster consists of an area encompassing present day Latvia, south to Ukraine, Romania, and the northern part of Bulgaria, west along the eastern edge of the Balkan states to Poland and the eastern half of Germany. The early populations in the East Europe cluster consisted largely of small agricultural communities. Some of these developed indigenously, while others were colonies of farming communities from Asia Minor. Eastern Europe played a significant role in the metalworking traditions of Scandinavia, and an intense metal trade was established between the two by 1500 BCE. In 1000 BCE invasions from the Celts (from Gaul and Germany) in 1000 BCE in the north and central regions and invasion from Iranian tribes to the south in interrupted this trade. By 200 BCE, Scandinavian groups drove southward and ended the Iranian control in the south. Slavs from the North Carpathian Mountains were forced into the steppe regions of present day Ukraine and Belarus by the 5th century CE. The Turkish Empire controlled the Ukrainian steppe between 700–900 CE and used its location to improve their mercantile empire. By the Viking Age of the 8th century CE, trade between the Scandinavia cluster and the East Europe cluster continued. By the middle of the 9th century CE, Vikings took control of the trade route that ran from the Baltic Sea, along the Dnieper River, and into Constantinople in present day Turkey. The Vikings exploited the local Slavic peoples and established their stronghold in Kiev. These Viking merchants were to be the progenitors of the Kievan Princes. By the 11th century CE, the Viking Age ended, and in 1240, the Mongol army sacked Kiev, adding further cultural and genetic influence to this cluster. Since the invasion of Kiev, this arm of the Mongol army became known as the Golden Horde—the western portion of the Mongol Empire. The East Europe cluster sits on two prominent trade routes, which resulted in a history complete with invasion and migration. As a result, the genetic relatedness of populations within this cluster is shaped by the water trade routes from Scandinavia and from the Baltic to (the Black Sea) Constantinople via the Volga, Dnieper, Dniester and the Danube, connecting Eastern Europe with Scandinavia and Siberia; it also includes the Steppe region, connecting Eastern Europe to Russia, Asia Minor, and the Eastern Middle East. Genetic diversity in this region is high.  Âîñòî÷íàÿ Åâðîïà Âîñòî÷íî-åâðîïåéñêàÿ ãðóïïà ñîñòîèò èç òåððèòîðèè, îõâàòûâàþùåé ñîâðåìåííóþ Ëàòâèþ, íà þãå Óêðàèíó, Ðóìûíèþ è ñåâåðíóþ ÷àñòü Áîëãàðèè, íà çàïàäå âîñòî÷íóþ îêðàèíó áàëêàíñêèõ ãîñóäàðñòâ àæ äî Ïîëüøè è âîñòî÷íîé ïîëîâèíû Ãåðìàíèè. Ðàííåå íàñåëåíèå âîñòî÷íî-åâðîïåéñêîé ãðóïïû ñîñòîÿëî â îñíîâíîì èç íåáîëüøèõ çåìëåäåëü÷åñêèõ îáùèí. Íåêîòîðûå èç íèõ ðàçâèâàëèñü çäåñü èñïîêîí âåêîâ, â òî âðåìÿ êàê äðóãèå áûëè êîëîíèÿìè çåìëåäåëü÷åñêèõ îáùèí èç Ìàëîé Àçèè. Âîñòî÷íàÿ Åâðîïà èãðàëà çíà÷èòåëüíóþ ðîëü â òðàäèöèÿõ ìåòàëëîîáðàáîòêè äëÿ Ñêàíäèíàâèè, è èíòåíñèâíàÿ òîðãîâëÿ ìåòàëëîì áûëà óñòàíîâëåíà ìåæäó íèìè ê 1500 ãîäó äî íàøåé ýðû.  1000 ã. äî í. ý. âòîðæåíèå êåëüòîâ (èç Ãàëëèè è Ãåðìàíèè) â ñåâåðíûå è öåíòðàëüíûå ðåãèîíû, à òàêæå âòîðæåíèå èðàíñêèõ ïëåìåí íà þã ïðåðâàëî ýòó òîðãîâëþ. Ê 200 ãîäó äî í. ý. ñêàíäèíàâñêèå ãðóïïû äâèíóëèñü íà þã è ïðåêðàòèëè èðàíñêèé êîíòðîëü íà þãå. Ñëàâÿíå ñ ñåâåðà Êàðïàòñêèõ ãîð áûëè âûíóæäåíû äâèíóòüñÿ â ñòåïíûå ðàéîíû ñîâðåìåííîé Óêðàèíû è Áåëàðóñè ê V âåêó í. ý. Âèçàíòèéñêàÿ èìïåðèÿ êîíòðîëèðîâàëà óêðàèíñêóþ ñòåïü ìåæäó 700-900 ãã. í. ý. è èñïîëüçîâàëà ñâîå ìåñòîðàñïîëîæåíèå äëÿ óëó÷øåíèÿ òîðãîâëè ñâîåé èìïåðèè.  ýïîõó âèêèíãîâ â VIII âåêå ïðîäîëæàëàñü òîðãîâëÿ ìåæäó ãðóïïàìè Ñêàíäèíàâèè è ãðóïïàìè Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïû.  ñåðåäèíå IX âåêà í. ý. âèêèíãè âçÿëè ïîä ñâîé êîíòðîëü òîðãîâûé ïóòü, êîòîðûé ïðîëåãàë îò Áàëòèéñêîãî ìîðÿ, âäîëü Äíåïðà, è äî Êîíñòàíòèíîïîëÿ â ñîâðåìåííîé Òóðöèè. Âèêèíãè ïîêîðèëè ìåñòíûå ñëàâÿíñêèå íàðîäû è ñîçäàëè ñâîé îïîðíûé ïóíêò â Êèåâå. Ýòè êóïöû-âèêèíãè ñòàëè ðîäîíà÷àëüíèêàìè êèåâñêèõ êíÿçåé. Ê XI âåêó íàøåé ýðû çàêîí÷èëàñü ýïîõà âèêèíãîâ, è â 1240 ãîäó ìîíãîëüñêàÿ àðìèÿ ðàçãðàáèëà Êèåâ, äîáàâèâ ê ýòîé ãðóïïå íàñåëåíèÿ äîïîëíèòåëüíîå êóëüòóðíîå è ãåíåòè÷åñêîå âëèÿíèå. Ñ ìîìåíòà íàøåñòâèÿ íà Êèåâ ýòà âåòâü ìîíãîëüñêîãî âîéñêà ñòàëà èçâåñòíà êàê Çîëîòàÿ Îðäà - çàïàäíàÿ ÷àñòü Ìîíãîëüñêîé Èìïåðèè. Âîñòî÷íî-åâðîïåéñêàÿ ãðóïïà íàõîäèòñÿ íà äâóõ èçâåñòíûõ òîðãîâûõ ïóòÿõ, ÷òî ïðèâåëî ê èñòîðèè, ïîëíîé âòîðæåíèé è ìèãðàöèé.  ðåçóëüòàòå ãåíåòè÷åñêàÿ ñâÿçü ïîïóëÿöèé â ýòîé ãðóïïå ôîðìèðóåòñÿ çà ñ÷åò âîäíûõ òîðãîâûõ ïóòåé èç Ñêàíäèíàâèè è èç Ïðèáàëòèêè äî Êîíñòàíòèíîïîëÿ (×åðíîå ìîðå) ÷åðåç Âîëãó, Äíåïð, Äíåñòð è Äóíàé, ñîåäèíÿþùèõ Âîñòî÷íóþ Åâðîïó ñî Ñêàíäèíàâèåé è Ñèáèðüþ; îíà òàêæå âêëþ÷àåò ñòåïíîé ðåãèîí, ñîåäèíÿþùèé Âîñòî÷íóþ Åâðîïó ñ Ðîññèåé, Ìàëîé Àçèåé è Áëèæíèì Âîñòîêîì. Ãåíåòè÷åñêîå ðàçíîîáðàçèå â ýòîì ðåãèîíå âåëèêî. --- Ïîìîãó ðàñøèôðîâàòü ðóêîïèñíûé äðåâíèé òåêñò
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9 ìàðòà 2018 21:43 Slava Utmanovo íàïèñàë: [q] Âîò òàêîå âûñâå÷èâàåòñÿ
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Öå îçíà÷àº, ùî âñå ïðîéøëî óñï³øíî. ×åêàéòå 2 äí³ ðåçóëüòàò. Ýòî îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî âñå ïðîøëî óñïåøíî. Æäèòå 2 äíÿ ðåçóëüòàò. --- Ïîìîãó ðàñøèôðîâàòü ðóêîïèñíûé äðåâíèé òåêñò
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9 ìàðòà 2018 21:44 Siberia Modern humans arrived in Siberia roughly 40,000 years ago after access to the region was opened up by retreating ice sheets. These ancient hunter-gatherer populations spread all across Siberia with some groups continuing east across the Bering Land Bridge to populate the Americas roughly 15,000–23,000 years ago. Because of this, there is still genetic relatedness between Siberian and Native American populations to this day. As Siberian populations became more established in the area, their lifestyles changed little from the first bands of people; consisting largely of small semi hunter-gatherer and pastoral nomadic groups. Populations within this cluster experienced predominantly Chinese influence starting around 1000 BCE and later, influence from the Turkic-Mongols in the 3rd century BCE. Genghis Khan and the Mongol Empire laid claim to Southern Siberia from the 13th to 14th century CE. Colonization from Russian forces in the 16th century CE led to the destruction of many of the smaller tribes due to the spread of disease and exploitation from colonists. However, larger tribes, such as the Sakha (Yakut) and Buryat, utilized the colonists to gain profit and were largely incorporated into the colonizing society, while others were able to maintain their traditional practices. Present day populations of Sakha (Yakut) still practice a mostly pastoral lifestyle and continue to herd horses, cattle, and reindeer. Today, the people of Siberia express closer relatedness to populations within East Asia and northern populations in Japan, suggesting more recent migrations from the south. There has also been increased relatedness between populations in Siberia and western Russia since Siberia’s integration as a Russian state.  Ñèáèðü Ñîâðåìåííûå ëþäè ïðèáûëè â Ñèáèðü ïðèìåðíî 40 000 ëåò íàçàä ïîñëå òîãî, êàê äîñòóï â ðåãèîí áûë îòêðûò îòñòóïëåíèåì ëåäÿíîãî ïîêðîâà. Ýòè äðåâíèå îõîòíèêè-ñîáèðàòåëè ðàñïðîñòðàíèëèñü ïî âñåé Ñèáèðè ñ íåêîòîðûìè ãðóïïàìè, ÷òî ïðîäâèíóëèñü íà âîñòîê ÷åðåç Áåðèíãîâ ìîñò ïðèìåðíî 15 000-23 000 ëåò íàçàä, ñ öåëüþ çàñåëèòü Àìåðèêó. Èç-çà ýòîãî äî ñèõ ïîð ñóùåñòâóåò ãåíåòè÷åñêàÿ ñâÿçü ìåæäó ñèáèðñêèì è êîðåííûì àìåðèêàíñêèì íàñåëåíèåì. Ïî ìåðå òîãî êàê ñèáèðñêèå ïîïóëÿöèè ñòàíîâèëèñü áîëåå ðàçâèòûìè â ýòîì ðåãèîíå, èõ îáðàç æèçíè ìàëî èçìåíèëñÿ îò ïåðâîé ãðóïïû ëþäåé, ñîñòîÿùåé â îñíîâíîì èç ìåëêèõ íàïîëîâèíó îõîòíè÷üå-ñîáèðàòåëüñêèõ è íàïîëîâèíó êî÷åâûõ ñêîòîâîä÷åñêèõ ãðóïï. Ïîïóëÿöèè â ýòîé ãðóïïå èñïûòûâàëè ïðåèìóùåñòâåííî êèòàéñêîå âëèÿíèå, íà÷èíàÿ ñ 1000 ã. äî í. ý., à çàòåì âëèÿíèå òþðêî-ìîíãîëîâ â III âåêå äî í. ý. ×èíãèñõàí è Ìîíãîëüñêàÿ èìïåðèÿ ïðåòåíäîâàëè íà Þæíóþ Ñèáèðü ñ XIII ïî XIV âåê. Êîëîíèçàöèÿ ðóññêèìè âîéñêàìè â XVI âåêå ïðèâåëà ê óíè÷òîæåíèþ ìíîãèõ ìàëûõ ïëåìåí èç-çà ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ áîëåçíåé è ýêñïëóàòàöèè ñî ñòîðîíû êîëîíèñòîâ. Îäíàêî áîëåå êðóïíûå ïëåìåíà, òàêèå êàê ÿêóòû è áóðÿòû, èñïîëüçîâàëè êîëîíèñòîâ äëÿ ïîëó÷åíèÿ ïðèáûëè è â îñíîâíîì áûëè âêëþ÷åíû â êîëîíèçèðóþùåå îáùåñòâî, â òî âðåìÿ êàê äðóãèå ñìîãëè ñîõðàíèòü ñâîþ òðàäèöèîííóþ äåÿòåëüíîñòü. Ñîâðåìåííûå ïîïóëÿöèè Ñàõà (ßêóòèè) ïî-ïðåæíåìó ïðàêòèêóþò ïðåèìóùåñòâåííî ïàñòûðñêèé îáðàç æèçíè è ïðîäîëæàþò ïàñòè ëîøàäåé, êðóïíûé ðîãàòûé ñêîò è îëåíåé. Ñåãîäíÿ æèòåëè Ñèáèðè èìåþò áîëåå òåñíóþ ñâÿçü ñ ïîïóëÿöèÿìè â Âîñòî÷íîé Àçèè è ñåâåðíûìè ïîïóëÿöèÿìè ßïîíèè, ÷òî ñâèäåòåëüñòâóåò î áîëåå ïîçäíèõ ìèãðàöèÿõ ñ þãà. Ñî âðåìåíè âõîæäåíèÿ Ñèáèðè â ðîññèéñêîå ãîñóäàðñòâî òàêæå âîçðîñëà ñâÿçü ìåæäó ïîïóëÿöèÿìè Ñèáèðè è Çàïàäíîé Ðîññèè. --- Ïîìîãó ðàñøèôðîâàòü ðóêîïèñíûé äðåâíèé òåêñò
Äîïîìîæó ðîçøèôðóâàòè ðóêîïèñíèé äàâí³é òåêñò | | |
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9 ìàðòà 2018 22:15 Òàê ÿêèé íàéêðàùèé ñàéò, ùî ïîêàæå åòí³÷íó ìîçà¿êó?
Òàê êàêîé ñàìûé ëó÷øèé ñàéò, êîòîðûé ïîêàæåò ýòíè÷åñêóþ ìîçàèêó? --- Ïîìîãó ðàñøèôðîâàòü ðóêîïèñíûé äðåâíèé òåêñò
Äîïîìîæó ðîçøèôðóâàòè ðóêîïèñíèé äàâí³é òåêñò | | |
Òàìïèî«Ñïàñèáî» è ëàéêè íå íàäî. Ïðîñòî íàæìèòå [+]  Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 1803 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1186 | Íàâåðõ ##
9 ìàðòà 2018 22:16 9 ìàðòà 2018 22:19 Slava Utmanovo íàïèñàë: [q] Ýñêèìîñ ñ ÿïîíöåì![/q]
Ò.å. âàñ î÷åíü íàïðÿãëè ýòè 0,8% è 1,7%, à òî, ÷òî ïîãðåøíîñòü òàêèõ ðåçóëüòàòîâ ñîñòàâëÿåò ±5% èëè, äàæå, ±10% âàñ íèñêîëüêî íå ñìóùàåò. Ñòðàííî, ïðàâäà? ²çþìñüêèé íàïèñàë: [q] Òàê êàêîé ñàìûé ëó÷øèé ñàéò, êîòîðûé ïîêàæåò ýòíè÷åñêóþ ìîçàèêó?[/q]
Íèêàêîé. Íî ýòî íèêàê íå îñòàíàâëèâàåò ëþäåé âû÷èñëèòü òî, ÷òî âû÷èñëèòü ïîêà íåëüçÿ. --- Íîâã. îáë, Ìàëîâèøåðñêèé ð-í, ä. Ïîääóáüå, Ãîðíåöêîå, Ñåëèùè — ÅÂÏËÎÂÛ ÈÂÀÍÎÂÛ
Êèðîâñê. îáë, Ëóçñêèé ð-í, ä. Ïÿòèíñêàÿ — ÈÃÓÌÍÎÂÛ
Òàìá. îáë, Ãàâðèëîâñêèé ð-í — ÒÅШØÊÈÍÛ ÂÎË×ÊÎÂÛ
Áåëîðóññèÿ: Áîáðóéñê, Íîâîãðóäîê — ÏÎÒÀÏÎÂÈ×È ÎÑÈÏÎÂÈ×È
☦ Ôèííû ÑÏá ☦ | | |
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9 ìàðòà 2018 23:31 Slava Utmanovo íàïèñàë: [q] Òàê ÿ æ êàëàìáóðþ! Ôèííû èç 18% ïðåâðàòèëèñü â 6,4 % à àçèàòû îñòàëèñü
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Òðåáà ðîçóì³òè, ùî àóòñîìíèé òåñò ÄÍÊ - öå íå â³äñòåæåííÿ íàö³îíàëüíîñò³ çà îñòàíí³ 100-200 ðîê³â, à â³äñòåæåííÿ òåðèòîð³àëüíîãî ïîõîäæåííÿ ïðåäê³â ç ÷àñ³â äî íàøî¿ åðè, êîëè íàö³é ùå íå ³ñíóâàëî. Íàäî ïîíèìàòü, ÷òî àóòñîìíèé òåñò ÄÍÊ - ýòî íå îòñëåæèâàíèå íàöèîíàëüíîñòè çà ïîñëåäíèå 100-200 ëåò, à îòñëåæèâàíèå òåððèòîðèàëüíîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ ïðåäêîâ ñî âðåìåí äî íàøåé ýðû, êîãäà íàöèé åùå íå ñóùåñòâîâàëî. --- Ïîìîãó ðàñøèôðîâàòü ðóêîïèñíûé äðåâíèé òåêñò
Äîïîìîæó ðîçøèôðóâàòè ðóêîïèñíèé äàâí³é òåêñò | | |
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9 ìàðòà 2018 23:44 Slava Utmanovo íàïèñàë: [q] Òàê ÿ æ êàëàìáóðþ! Ôèííû èç 18% ïðåâðàòèëèñü â 6,4 % à àçèàòû îñòàëèñü
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Íó ³ íàÿâí³ñòü ÿïîíö³â òà åñê³ìîñ³â - ñâ³ä÷èòü íå ïðî òå, ùî áàáóñÿ áóëà ÿïîíêà, à ïðî òå, ùî ÷àñòèíà ïðåäê³â ç ðåã³îíó "Äàëåêèé ñõ³ä", çâ³äêè é ïîõîäÿòü ÿïîíö³ òà åñê³ìîñè. Íó è íàëè÷èå ÿïîíöåâ è ýñêèìîñîâ - ñâèäåòåëüñòâóåò íå î òîì, ÷òî áàáóøêà áûëà ÿïîíêà, à î òîì, ÷òî ÷àñòü ïðåäêîâ èç ðåãèîíà "Äàëüíèé âîñòîê", îòêóäà è ïðîèñõîäÿò ÿïîíöû è ýñêèìîñû. --- Ïîìîãó ðàñøèôðîâàòü ðóêîïèñíûé äðåâíèé òåêñò
Äîïîìîæó ðîçøèôðóâàòè ðóêîïèñíèé äàâí³é òåêñò | | |
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10 ìàðòà 2018 10:43 10 ìàðòà 2018 10:44 Êàëüêóëÿòîðû ïîêàçûâàþò íå ïðåäêîâ, à âàñ. Íà ñêîëüêî âû ïîõîæè íà ñîâðåìåííûõ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé òåõ ãðóïï ëþäåé, êîòîðûå óñòàíîâëåíû êàê ýòàëîí â êàëüêóëÿòîðå. Ó âñåõ êàëüêóëÿòîðîâ íàñòðîéêè ðàçíûå, ïîýòîìó è ðåçóëüòàòû ðàçíûå.
Ïðåäêîâ ïîêàçûâàåò Ancient Origins, ò.ê. îí ñðàâíèâàåò âàñ ñ äðåâíèìè îáðàçöàìè. --- Êóðñê: Ëüãîâñêèé ðàéîí: Áåçñîíîâ, Áåññîíîâ, Áîáðàêîâ, Ïîëóÿíîâ
Âîðîíåæ: Íîâîõîïåðñê è Áîðèñîãëåáñê: Âîðîáüåâ, Ëåîíòüåâ, Ìèõàéëèí, Ñèäîðåíêî
Áðÿíñê: Ñóçåìñêèé ðàéîí: Êîíäðàøîâ, Àíòîùåíêî
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Òàìïèî«Ñïàñèáî» è ëàéêè íå íàäî. Ïðîñòî íàæìèòå [+]  Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 1803 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1186 | Íàâåðõ ##
10 ìàðòà 2018 15:45 10 ìàðòà 2018 16:08 Slava Utmanovo íàïèñàë: [q] Ïîíÿòíî ÷òî íè÷åãî íå ïîíÿòíî[/q]
Ïðîñòî ýòíîñ íå èìååò íèêàêîãî îòíîøåíèÿ ê ãàïëîãðóïïå... òàê æå êàê è âíåøíîñòü. Èäåÿ, ÷òî ÄÍÊ-òåñò ìîæåò óêàçàòü íà íàöèîíàëüíîñòü òåñòèðóåìîãî - ôèêöèÿ. Ó ÷åëîâåêà 2 ðîäèòåëåé, 4 áàáêè/äåäà, 8 ïðàäåäîâ/ïðàáàáêè... êàæäûé èç íèõ ìîã áûòü èç êàêîé-òî óíèêàëüíîé íàöèè, íî êàêîå îòíîøåíèå ýòî èìååò ê ñîâðåìåííîìó ÷åëîâåêó? Îí ÷òî, âûáèðàåò íàöèîíàëüíîñòü èç 8 âàðèàíòîâ? Êîíå÷íî, íåò. Ïîíÿòèå "íàöèÿ" ïîÿâèëàñü â 18 âåêå è ÄÍÊ ñîâåðøåííî íå â êóðñå ýòîãî ÷åëîâå÷åñêîãî èçîáðåòåíèÿ. Åùå áîëåå ñìåøíà ïîïûòêà äåëèòü ëþäåé ïî ÿçûêîâûì ãðóïïàì (òèïà ôèííî-óãðû âñòðåòèëèñü ñ èíäî-åâðîïåéöàìè). ß ìîãó ãîâîðèòü ïî-ðóññêè â Ðîññèè è ïî-ôèíñêè â Ôèíëÿíäèè.  ïåðâîì ñëó÷àå ÿ èíäîåâðîïååö, à âî âòîðîì - ôèííî-óãð. Íî ýòî íåëåïî. (Òå æå âåíãðû, ê ïðèìåðó, ÿâëÿþòñÿ ôèííî-óãðàìè, íî óðàëüñêîé ÄÍÊ ó íèõ ïðàêòè÷åñêè íåò, èáî 1000 ëåò íàçàä íà äàííîé òåððèòîðèè áûëî ýëèòàðíîå äîìèíèðîâàíèå ìèãðàíòîâ ñ ïðåäóðàëüñêîé îêðàèíû Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïû â å¸ ñîâðåìåííîì ïîíèìàíèè.) Íà êàðòèíêå íèæå ïîêàçàíà "ýòíè÷åñêàÿ ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü" äÿäè ìîåé æåíû â ïîíèìàíèè ýòíîêàëüêóëÿòîðà Ìàéõåðèòàæ. Íàïèñàíî, ÷òî íèãåðèåö - 1,2%. Ìîæíî, êîíå÷íî, ïðåäñòàâèòm, ÷òî êàêîé-òî îòâàæíûé êàïèòàí àôðèêàíåö ïðèïëûë íà ïëîòó ê áåðåãó Áàëòèéñêîãî ìîðÿ è ñìåøàëñÿ ñ ìåñòíûìè ïðèáàëòàìè è ñëàâÿíàìè. Íî, ñêîðåå âñåãî, ó ìîåãî ðîäñòâåííèêà îïðåäåë¸ííûé ñíèï R1b ãàïëîãðóïïû, êîòîðûé áëèçîê ê ñíèïó R1b ãàïëîãðóïïû, èìåþùåéñÿ â áîëüøîé ïðîïîðöèè â äàííîì ðåãèîíå Àôðèêè. Ïî÷åìó òàê ñëó÷èëîñü - îòäåëüíàÿ òåìà. Íî íåïîñðåäñòâåííî íèãåðèéöû âðÿä ëè íàõîäÿòñÿ â ïðåäêàõ ñòîïðîöåíòíîãî áåëîðóñà.
 --- Íîâã. îáë, Ìàëîâèøåðñêèé ð-í, ä. Ïîääóáüå, Ãîðíåöêîå, Ñåëèùè — ÅÂÏËÎÂÛ ÈÂÀÍÎÂÛ
Êèðîâñê. îáë, Ëóçñêèé ð-í, ä. Ïÿòèíñêàÿ — ÈÃÓÌÍÎÂÛ
Òàìá. îáë, Ãàâðèëîâñêèé ð-í — ÒÅШØÊÈÍÛ ÂÎË×ÊÎÂÛ
Áåëîðóññèÿ: Áîáðóéñê, Íîâîãðóäîê — ÏÎÒÀÏÎÂÈ×È ÎÑÈÏÎÂÈ×È
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