Нужна помощь в архивах Республики Беларусь

maksshmel написал:

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The Grodno Historical Archive contains a request from Elya, the son of Yankel Gurin, 28 years old, to issue him a foreign passport in 1911. The document contains his handwritten signature.

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Подскажите- в каком фонде архива храняться подобные записи?

>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя Helen V от 13 февраля 2024 2:14

What GARF is exactly ?

About the document on familysearch, I've found it already and it's concerning Boruch son of Jankiel born in 1884. The Borukh I was talking about is the father of Jankiel who was born in 1835. Not the same person. It's confusing I know. Boruch, Borukh, Jankiel and Yankel !
About Jossel, I believe it's Yosef the oldest Boruch's brother born in 1882. I have already seen this spelling for the first name Yosef

>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя Helen V от 13 февраля 2024 4:08

I have already been able to order these files for Moshek and Eli. I received them last week

"Looks like she's Iosif's daughter"
Iosif ? You Yosef? I don't think he had a child there because in 1904 he traveled into the USA and get married with Sofia Soboel in the same year. he got 3 childres in 1904, 1907 and 1910

Thanks for the military file about Shmul, I didn't have it !

the_yegor написал:

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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя FuranNietchaieff от 13 февраля 2024 1:53

Another remarkable file represented at the Brest regional archive:
69-4-УД-561 1929-1930 case of the appointment of Gurin Zlata as the main guardian of minors Aron-David, Moishe and Josef Gurin

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Interesting but Moishe and Josef was already in the USA at this period and not minors too. So maybe cousins ? Maybe jewishgen have more information like census

FuranNietchaieff написал:

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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя the_yegor от 13 февраля 2024 2:59

I believe I need a VPN in Russia to access to the site. I don't have one but I keep this for later.

If I get it correctly. These archives is a list of person name gurin who lived in Pinks in 1874, 1893, 1914 and 1906 ? I might be found something about Jankiel and his parents in 1874. In 1893, the family was probably in Brest then in 1906 Warsaw.

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Well, as far as I see the online.archives.ru is only accessible via VPN from the EU, meanwhile the websites of ГАРФ (GARF) and РГАСПИ (RGASPI) are available directly. I used to reach Russian website from outside the country with a number of different VPN apps.


FuranNietchaieff написал:

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If I get it correctly. These archives is a list of person name gurin who lived in Pinks in 1874, 1893, 1914 and 1906 ?

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Correct


FuranNietchaieff написал:

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I might be found something about Jankiel and his parents in 1874.

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I'm slightly overbooked for the next 30 days with this archive in Minsk, so I can help you a couple of weeks later if you are not in a hurry.
This data in a list of a kind can not be extracted by the simple official archival inquiry (metrical data inquiry), since it is a list of families. The appropriate request to reach this data usually takes more than half a year.
You can also try jewishgen for this book, but seems like this volume wasn't ever indexed by the JG participants.


FuranNietchaieff написал:

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In 1893, the family was probably in Brest

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We have these files with Brest jewish family lists in the Grodno archive:

The same thing with requesting any extract from this kind of documentation. A long-term official inquiry works, JG index works, or someone's help on the spot.