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Irina OlÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ñ-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 5412 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 17198 | Ââåðõ #12 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 21:55 12 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 22:35 veramiller1 íàïèñàë: [q] I know the file number for one record from 1897. [/q]
veramiller1 íàïèñàë: [q] Âîò íîìåð äåëà: ôîíä 1343, îïèñü 51, äåëî 619.[/q]
Vera! According to the ctalogue it is "The list of those who were granted nobility in Donskoi Army". This file has no date (!), and I promised you to look through the file of the year 1897. Such files are usually very large, like a very thick book, which consists of lists of noble people of various years. It may contain a very large numder of sheets. Unfortunately I cannot do this. I just do not have enough time for that at the moment Are you completely sure that this file contains information about the people in question? --- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Èðèíà. | | |
| veramiller1 Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 387 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 205 | Ââåðõ #13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 0:02 Irina
This is my family definitely. I come from very famous Don Cossacks, the Kirsanovs. I got the file number from a book written by my fifth cousin, once removed. It was written in English. I gave you the file number as it was written as a source. I do not understand this. | | |
| veramiller1 Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 387 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 205 | Ââåðõ #13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 4:16 Ðàçâå ÐÃÈÀ åñòü ñóäèìîñòü çà Íàðîäíàÿ Âîëÿ îñóæäåííûõ? Ìîé ïðàäåä êîòèðóþòñÿ íà http://narodnaya-volya.ru/document/process21.php äëÿ îáñëóæèâàíèÿ 4-õ ìåñÿöåâ â òþðüìå. Ìíå ñêàçàëè, ïðà-äåäóøêà îòáûâàë ñðîê â Ïåòðîïàâëîâñêàÿ êðåïîñòü. ß íå óâåðåí, ãäå îí îòáûâàë ñðîê. Ëþáàÿ ïîìîùü áóäåò ïðèíÿòà ñ áëàãîäàðíîñòüþ. Does ÐÃÈÀ have criminal records for Íàðîäíàÿ Âîëÿ convicts? My great-grandfather is listed on http://narodnaya-volya.ru/document/process21.php for serving 4 months in prison. I was told great-grandpa served time in Ïåòðîïà́âëîâñêàÿ êðǻïîñòü. I am not sure where he served time. Any help would be appreciated. | | |
Irina OlÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ñ-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 5412 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 17198 | Ââåðõ #13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 11:30 veramiller1 íàïèñàë: [q] I got the file number from a book written by my fifth cousin, once removed. It was written in English. [/q]
If you already have all the information from it, then why do you want to browse that file once again? veramiller1 íàïèñàë: [q] Does ÐÃÈÀ have criminal records for Íàðîäíàÿ Âîëÿ convicts? [/q]
Yes, the archive may possess such information. --- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Èðèíà. | | |
| veramiller1 Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 387 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 205 | Ââåðõ #13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 14:01 Irina
I only have one pargraph of information from the file. | | |
annokaÏî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 219 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 94 | Ââåðõ #20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 12:00 20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 12:35Ïîäñêàæèòå, êàê îïòèìàëüíî ïîðàáîòàòü â ÐÃÈÀ? Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè!
 íà÷àëå îêòÿáðÿ åäó íà íåäåëþ â Ïèòåð. ß îòïðàâëÿëà çàïðîñ â ÐÃÈÀ, íî åãî íà÷íóò èñïîëíÿòü òîëüêî â íà÷àëå èþëÿ 2012 ãîäà. À îòåö, äëÿ êîòîðîãî ÿ âñ¸ ýòî â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü äåëàþ, âñ¸-òàêè óæå íå î÷åíü ìîëîäîé è íå î÷åíü çäîðîâûé ÷åëîâåê...
Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ðåàëüíî ëè ìíå çà íåäåëþ óñïåòü íàéòè èíôîðìàöèþ ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî è êàê ýòî ëó÷øå âñåãî ñäåëàòü?
Ìåíÿ èíòåðåñóþò ïîñëóæíûå ñïèñêè ïðàïðàäåäà, çàïàñíîãî óíòåð-îôèöåðà Êåêñãîëüìñêîãî ïîëêà, ñëóæèâøåãî ëàêååì ïðè Âûñî÷àéøåì äâîðå, è ïðàäåäà, ãóáåðíñêîãî ñåêðåòàðÿ, ñëóæèâøåãî â Ìèíèñòåðñòâå ôèíàíñîâ è â ìèíèñòåðñòâå ïðîìûøëåííîñòè è òîðãîâëè.  ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü èç âñåõ ýòèõ äîêóìåíòîâ ìåíÿ èíòåðåñóåò áèîãðàôè÷åñêàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ, îñîáåííî ìåñòî è äàòà ðîæäåíèÿ.
Åñëè, íàïðèìåð, åñòü êàêèå-òî áîëåå ïîäðîáíûå áóìàæíûå ïóòåâîäèòåëè ïî ôîíäàì àðõèâà, ÷åì òå, ÷òî èìåþòñÿ â Èíòåðíåòå â ýëåêòðîííîì âèäå, è èõ ìîæíî çàêàçàòü â ÐÃÁ, òî ÿ ïîøëà áû òóäà è çàðàíåå ïîäîòîâèëàñü...
Ñïàñèáî çà ïîäñêàçêó! À --- Ýïèêòåòîâ — Ñàðàòîâ., Ñàìàð., Ñèìáèð. ãóá.;
׸ðíûé, Ãíåäàø, Ôóðñà, Ïèëèïåíêî, Ñàâèí — Êðàñíîäàð è êðàé;
×åøêî — Îìåëüíî Èãóìåíñêîãî ó. Ìèíñêîé ãóá.;
×èæèêîâ, Õèòðîâ, Çàõàðîâ — Ðûáèíñêèé ó. ßðîñëàâ. ãóá.;
Êî÷åòîâ, Ðóñàêîâ, Øàïîøíèêîâ — Âåðåéñêèé ó. Ìîñêîâ. ãóá.
Êóäðÿâöåâ — Àáàêóìîâî Ðÿçàí. ãóá. | | |
| Michelle Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 489 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 118 | Ââåðõ #20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 17:38 annoka Êóäà æ ïîäðîáíåé, åñëè ìîæíî ñìîòðåòü îïèñè ïðÿìî íà ñàéòå ÐÃÈÀ. Íàïðèìåð, Ô.23 Ìèíèñòåðñòâî òîðãîâëè è ïðîìûøëåííîñòè (1905-1917 ã.) Íà ñàéòå ïîèñê ïî óêàçàòåëÿì. Óêàçûâàåòå íîìåð ôîíäà, ñíà÷àëà ñìîòðèòå îïèñàíèå îïèñåé, âûáèðàåòå íóæíûå. Çàòåì ÷åðåç òîò æå ïîèñê ïî óêàçàòåëÿì ïèøèòå íîìåð ôîíäà è íîìåð îïèñè. Ñïðàâà áóäåò: ÷èòàòü îïèñü. Îòêðûâàåòå è ÷èòàåòå. Ñîâñåì íåäàâíî ýòî ìîæíî áûëî ñäåëàòü òîëüêî â ñàìîì àðõèâå. À òåïåðü òàêîå ñ÷àñòüå. Ýòî òî, ÷òî Âàì íóæíî, ÷òîáû ìàêñèìàëüíî ïîäãîòîâèòüñÿ ê âèçèòó â àðõèâ. Ô.22 Öåíòðàëüíûå ó÷ðåæäåíèÿ ÌÔ ïî ÷àñòè òîðãîâëè è ïðîìûøëåííîñòè (1900-1905 ãã.) Ô.472 Êàíöåëÿðèÿ ìèíèñòåðñòâà èìïåðàòîðñêîãî äâîðà (1826-1918 ãã.) Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ýòî ñàìûé âåðíûé ïóòü. --- Michelle | | |
| Ëàñâå Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã, ã.Ïóøêèí Ñîîáùåíèé: 2166 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 20413 | Ââåðõ #20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 19:34 annoka Êðîìå âñåãî, â ñàìîì àðõèâå ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü èìåííîé êàòàëîã. Ïðè íàëè÷èè èñêîìîé ôàìèëèè, â êàðòî÷êàõ ñðàçó áóäóò óêàçàíû íàçâàíèå äåëà è åãî âûõîäíûå äàííûå. | | |
| èêà15 Ó÷àñòíèê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 69 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 6 | Ââåðõ #22 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 19:17äåãàëüöåâ ïîäñêàæèòå êàê ìîæíî óçíàòü õðàíÿòñÿ ëè â Ñ-Ïá àðõèâå ïåðåïèñü íàñåëåíèÿ çà 1874, 1894 ãîäà ïî Âîðîíåæñêîé ãóáåðíèè Áèðþ÷åíñêîãî óåçäà õ.ÍàäåæäîâêÀ(Áðàæèí) è åñëè áûëà ïîçæå, èëè ïîäñêàæèòå ãäå ïîñìîòðåòü, â Âîðîíåæñêîì àðõèâå íåò òàì òîëüêî 1858 ãîä | | |
annokaÏî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 219 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 94 | Ââåðõ #26 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 20:44 Ñïàñèáî, Michelle è Ëàñâå! Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè, åñëè êòî-íèáóäü èìåííî ñåé÷àñ ðàáîòàåò â ÐÃÂÈÀ, ðàññêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, êàêàÿ òàì ñåé÷àñ îáñòàíîâêà â ÷èòàëüíîì çàëå? Äîñòàòî÷íî ëè ïðèåõàòü ê îòêðûòèþ àðõèâà èëè íàäî çàíèìàòü î÷åðåäü ñ ïÿòè óòðà, ÷òîáû ãàðàíòèðîâàííî ïîïàñòü â çàë? --- Ýïèêòåòîâ — Ñàðàòîâ., Ñàìàð., Ñèìáèð. ãóá.;
׸ðíûé, Ãíåäàø, Ôóðñà, Ïèëèïåíêî, Ñàâèí — Êðàñíîäàð è êðàé;
×åøêî — Îìåëüíî Èãóìåíñêîãî ó. Ìèíñêîé ãóá.;
×èæèêîâ, Õèòðîâ, Çàõàðîâ — Ðûáèíñêèé ó. ßðîñëàâ. ãóá.;
Êî÷åòîâ, Ðóñàêîâ, Øàïîøíèêîâ — Âåðåéñêèé ó. Ìîñêîâ. ãóá.
Êóäðÿâöåâ — Àáàêóìîâî Ðÿçàí. ãóá. | | |
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