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ÐÃÈÀ - îáùèå âîïðîñû ïî ðàçäåëó

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veramiller1

Ñîîáùåíèé: 378
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã.
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Íàâåðõ   ## 12 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 14:33
Irina

Âîò íîìåð äåëà: ôîíä 1343, îïèñü 51, äåëî 619. Ñïàñèáî çà âàøó ïîìîùü.
Irina Ol

Irina Ol

Ñ-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4627
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 16967
Íàâåðõ   ## 12 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 21:55 12 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 22:35

veramiller1 íàïèñàë:
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I know the file number for one record from 1897.
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veramiller1 íàïèñàë:
[q]
Âîò íîìåð äåëà: ôîíä 1343, îïèñü 51, äåëî 619.
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Vera!
According to the ctalogue it is "The list of those who were granted nobility in Donskoi Army". This file has no date (!), and I promised you to look through the file of the year 1897. Such files are usually very large, like a very thick book, which consists of lists of noble people of various years. It may contain a very large numder of sheets. Unfortunately I cannot do this. I just do not have enough time for that at the moment dntknw.gif

Are you completely sure that this file contains information about the people in question?
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Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Èðèíà.
veramiller1

Ñîîáùåíèé: 378
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 204
Íàâåðõ   ## 13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 0:02
Irina

This is my family definitely. I come from very famous Don Cossacks, the Kirsanovs. I got the file number from a book written by my fifth cousin, once removed. It was written in English. I gave you the file number as it was written as a source. I do not understand this.
veramiller1

Ñîîáùåíèé: 378
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Íàâåðõ   ## 13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 4:16
Ðàçâå ÐÃÈÀ åñòü ñóäèìîñòü çà Íàðîäíàÿ Âîëÿ îñóæäåííûõ? Ìîé ïðàäåä êîòèðóþòñÿ íà http://narodnaya-volya.ru/document/process21.php äëÿ îáñëóæèâàíèÿ 4-õ ìåñÿöåâ â òþðüìå. Ìíå ñêàçàëè, ïðà-äåäóøêà îòáûâàë ñðîê â Ïåòðîïàâëîâñêàÿ êðåïîñòü. ß íå óâåðåí, ãäå îí îòáûâàë ñðîê. Ëþáàÿ ïîìîùü áóäåò ïðèíÿòà ñ áëàãîäàðíîñòüþ.

Does ÐÃÈÀ have criminal records for Íàðîäíàÿ Âîëÿ convicts? My great-grandfather is listed on http://narodnaya-volya.ru/document/process21.php for serving 4 months in prison. I was told great-grandpa served time in Ïåòðîïà́âëîâñêàÿ êðǻïîñòü. I am not sure where he served time. Any help would be appreciated.
Irina Ol

Irina Ol

Ñ-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4627
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 16967
Íàâåðõ   ## 13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 11:30

veramiller1 íàïèñàë:
[q]
I got the file number from a book written by my fifth cousin, once removed. It was written in English.
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If you already have all the information from it, then why do you want to browse that file once again?

veramiller1 íàïèñàë:
[q]
Does ÐÃÈÀ have criminal records for Íàðîäíàÿ Âîëÿ convicts?
[/q]
Yes, the archive may possess such information.


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Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Èðèíà.
veramiller1

Ñîîáùåíèé: 378
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 204
Íàâåðõ   ## 13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 14:01
Irina

I only have one pargraph of information from the file.
annoka

annoka

Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 208
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Íàâåðõ   ## 20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 12:00 20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 12:35
Ïîäñêàæèòå, êàê îïòèìàëüíî ïîðàáîòàòü â ÐÃÈÀ?
Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè!

 íà÷àëå îêòÿáðÿ åäó íà íåäåëþ â Ïèòåð. ß îòïðàâëÿëà çàïðîñ â ÐÃÈÀ, íî åãî íà÷íóò èñïîëíÿòü òîëüêî â íà÷àëå èþëÿ 2012 ãîäà. À îòåö, äëÿ êîòîðîãî ÿ âñ¸ ýòî â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü äåëàþ, âñ¸-òàêè óæå íå î÷åíü ìîëîäîé è íå î÷åíü çäîðîâûé ÷åëîâåê...

Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ðåàëüíî ëè ìíå çà íåäåëþ óñïåòü íàéòè èíôîðìàöèþ ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî è êàê ýòî ëó÷øå âñåãî ñäåëàòü?

Ìåíÿ èíòåðåñóþò ïîñëóæíûå ñïèñêè ïðàïðàäåäà, çàïàñíîãî óíòåð-îôèöåðà Êåêñãîëüìñêîãî ïîëêà, ñëóæèâøåãî ëàêååì ïðè Âûñî÷àéøåì äâîðå, è ïðàäåäà, ãóáåðíñêîãî ñåêðåòàðÿ, ñëóæèâøåãî â Ìèíèñòåðñòâå ôèíàíñîâ è â ìèíèñòåðñòâå ïðîìûøëåííîñòè è òîðãîâëè.  ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü èç âñåõ ýòèõ äîêóìåíòîâ ìåíÿ èíòåðåñóåò áèîãðàôè÷åñêàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ, îñîáåííî ìåñòî è äàòà ðîæäåíèÿ.

Åñëè, íàïðèìåð, åñòü êàêèå-òî áîëåå ïîäðîáíûå áóìàæíûå ïóòåâîäèòåëè ïî ôîíäàì àðõèâà, ÷åì òå, ÷òî èìåþòñÿ â Èíòåðíåòå â ýëåêòðîííîì âèäå, è èõ ìîæíî çàêàçàòü â ÐÃÁ, òî ÿ ïîøëà áû òóäà è çàðàíåå ïîäîòîâèëàñü...

Ñïàñèáî çà ïîäñêàçêó! À
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Ýïèêòåòîâ — Ñàðàòîâ., Ñàìàð., Ñèìáèð. ãóá.;
׸ðíûé, Ãíåäàø, Ôóðñà, Ïèëèïåíêî, Ñàâèí — Êðàñíîäàð è êðàé;
×åøêî — Îìåëüíî Èãóìåíñêîãî ó. Ìèíñêîé ãóá.;
×èæèêîâ, Õèòðîâ, Çàõàðîâ — Ðûáèíñêèé ó. ßðîñëàâ. ãóá.;
Êî÷åòîâ, Ðóñàêîâ, Øàïîøíèêîâ — Âåðåéñêèé ó. Ìîñêîâ. ãóá.
Êóäðÿâöåâ — Àáàêóìîâî Ðÿçàí. ãóá.
Michelle

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Íàâåðõ   ## 20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 17:38
annoka
Êóäà æ ïîäðîáíåé, åñëè ìîæíî ñìîòðåòü îïèñè ïðÿìî íà ñàéòå ÐÃÈÀ.
Íàïðèìåð, Ô.23 Ìèíèñòåðñòâî òîðãîâëè è ïðîìûøëåííîñòè (1905-1917 ã.)
Íà ñàéòå ïîèñê ïî óêàçàòåëÿì. Óêàçûâàåòå íîìåð ôîíäà, ñíà÷àëà ñìîòðèòå îïèñàíèå îïèñåé, âûáèðàåòå íóæíûå. Çàòåì ÷åðåç òîò æå ïîèñê ïî óêàçàòåëÿì ïèøèòå íîìåð ôîíäà è íîìåð îïèñè.
Ñïðàâà áóäåò: ÷èòàòü îïèñü. Îòêðûâàåòå è ÷èòàåòå.
Ñîâñåì íåäàâíî ýòî ìîæíî áûëî ñäåëàòü òîëüêî â ñàìîì àðõèâå. À òåïåðü òàêîå ñ÷àñòüå. Ýòî òî, ÷òî Âàì íóæíî, ÷òîáû ìàêñèìàëüíî ïîäãîòîâèòüñÿ ê âèçèòó â àðõèâ.
Ô.22 Öåíòðàëüíûå ó÷ðåæäåíèÿ ÌÔ ïî ÷àñòè òîðãîâëè è ïðîìûøëåííîñòè (1900-1905 ãã.)
Ô.472 Êàíöåëÿðèÿ ìèíèñòåðñòâà èìïåðàòîðñêîãî äâîðà (1826-1918 ãã.)
Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ýòî ñàìûé âåðíûé ïóòü.
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Michelle
Ëàñâå

Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã, ã.Ïóøêèí
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Íàâåðõ   ## 20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 19:34
annoka
Êðîìå âñåãî, â ñàìîì àðõèâå ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü èìåííîé êàòàëîã. Ïðè íàëè÷èè èñêîìîé ôàìèëèè, â êàðòî÷êàõ ñðàçó áóäóò óêàçàíû íàçâàíèå äåëà è åãî âûõîäíûå äàííûå.
èêà15
Ó÷àñòíèê

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Íàâåðõ   ## 22 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 19:17
äåãàëüöåâ
ïîäñêàæèòå êàê ìîæíî óçíàòü õðàíÿòñÿ ëè â Ñ-Ïá àðõèâå ïåðåïèñü íàñåëåíèÿ çà 1874, 1894 ãîäà ïî Âîðîíåæñêîé ãóáåðíèè Áèðþ÷åíñêîãî óåçäà õ.ÍàäåæäîâêÀ(Áðàæèí) è åñëè áûëà ïîçæå, èëè ïîäñêàæèòå ãäå ïîñìîòðåòü, â Âîðîíåæñêîì àðõèâå íåò òàì òîëüêî 1858 ãîä
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