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✔ ÄÈÀËÎÃÎÂÀß òåìà (Âîïðîñû/îòâåòû)
| Dic Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 430 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 41 | Ââåðõ #30 äåêàáðÿ 2003 13:22 ÀÐÕÈÂÍÛÅ òåìû ïî Ýñòîíèè - https://forum.vgd.ru/1468/ Òåìû ïî ÍÅÊÐÎÏÎËßÌ - https://forum.vgd.ru/347/Àäìèíèñòðàòèâíîå äåëåíèå - ñáîðíèê ðåãèîíàëüíûõ ñïðàâî÷íèêîâ â ôîðìàòå djvu Ýñòîíñêàÿ ÑÑÐ - 1955 ãîä, ÷àñòü 1 (4 492 ÊÁ) Ýñòîíñêàÿ ÑÑÐ - 1955 ãîä, ÷àñòü 2 (4 492 ÊÁ) Ýñòîíñêàÿ ÑÑÐ - 1955 ãîä, ÷àñòü 3 (4 492 ÊÁ) Ýñòîíñêàÿ ÑÑÐ - 1955 ãîä, ÷àñòü 4 (4 318 ÊÁ) Ýñòîíñêàÿ ÑÑÐ - 1972 ãîä (4 503 ÊÁ) Ýñòîíñêàÿ ÑÑÐ - 1976 ãîä (3 447 ÊÁ) Ýñòîíñêàÿ ÑÑÐ - 1978 ãîä, ÷àñòü 1 (3 906 ÊÁ) Ýñòîíñêàÿ ÑÑÐ - 1978 ãîä, ÷àñòü 2 (3 906 ÊÁ) Ýñòîíñêàÿ ÑÑÐ - 1978 ãîä, ÷àñòü 3 (3 906 ÊÁ) Ýñòîíñêàÿ ÑÑÐ - 1978 ãîä, ÷àñòü 4 (1 946 ÊÁ) http://www.soldat.ru/admdel/
   --- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Dic. | | |
| Alavr Íà÷èíàþùèé
Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 49 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 16 | Ââåðõ #11 íîÿáðÿ 2019 22:06 ß èñêðåííå áëàãîäàðåí âñåì! ß âîîáùå íå ïðåäñòàâëÿþ, êàê â ýòèõ çàïèñÿõ ÷òî-òî ìîæíî ïðî÷åñòü Êàê ìèíèìóì óñòàíîâëåíî ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ Åëèçàâåòû Ðåéíîâíû (Àíäðååâíû) - ìûçà Ìàõòðà. È áåç âàñ ÿ è ýòîãî áû íå ñìîã óñòàíîâèòü. Ñïàñèáî! --- Ëàâðåíòüåâû-Ðåâåëü,Áðóñåíöåâû-Îðëîâñêàÿ îáë., Ñîêîëîâû-Ìîñêâà | | |
| Michael Nagel Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1308 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2017 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 4657 | Ââåðõ #12 íîÿáðÿ 2019 0:23 12 íîÿáðÿ 2019 0:31 | | |
Ëþá÷èíîâàÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà Îëüãà, èíæåíåð-ñòðîèòåëü íà ïåíñèè  Îìñê Ñîîáùåíèé: 18150 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 9147 | Ââåðõ #12 íîÿáðÿ 2019 0:26 12 íîÿáðÿ 2019 0:27 Michael Nagel íàïèñàë: [q] Ññûëêà 1 Wachtkerl
Ññûëêà 2 Wachtkerl[/q]
íå îòêðûâàåòñÿ ïåðâàÿ ññûëêà  (íè ÷åðåç VPN, íè â ïðèâàòíîì îêíå, íèêàê...) --- Ëþá÷èí(îâ), Ïîñòðåøêèí (Ïîñòðåõèí), Ñâèäåðñêèé(îé)(îâ), Áàëîâ, Ñàìñîíîâ, Òóãîâ, Ñóõîâ(ûõ), Òàáàíàêîâ, Ïàêóëåâ, Ñóðàíîâ, Ïîòîöêèé, ×óëêîâ, ×åðäàíöå(î)â, Êóíãóðîâ, Buck, Joa, Brinkmann, Kibbermann, Ñè(å)äÿ(å)êîâ, Øëÿïíèêîâ, Âüþêîâ, Áóëãàêîâ, Ðîæäåñòâåíñêèé, ôîí Éîðê, Êîñòþêîâ | | |
| Michael Nagel Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1308 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2017 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 4657 | Ââåðõ #12 íîÿáðÿ 2019 0:37 12 íîÿáðÿ 2019 0:40 Ëþá÷èíîâà íàïèñàë: [q] [/q]
Ïîïðîáóéòå âîò ýòó ññûëêó: http://woerterbuchnetz.de/cgi-bin/WBNetz/wbgui_py?sigle=DWBÝòî îí-ëàéí ñëîâàðü áðàòüåâ Ãðèìì. Êîãäà îòêðîåòñÿ, â îêîøêå ïîèñêà ââåðõó ñëåâà íàáåðèòå Wachtkerl (è íàæìèòå enter). P.S. Åñëè íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ îïÿòü, âîò êàêîå òàì òîëêîâàíèå ýòîãî ñëîâà (Wachtkerl): WACHTKERL, wachkerl, m. in Liv- und Estland bäuerlicher knecht zu allerhand dienstverrichtungen in und auszer dem hause. | | |
| Tineoidea Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê
Tallinn Ñîîáùåíèé: 245 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 196 | Ââåðõ #12 íîÿáðÿ 2019 0:52 Michael Nagel íàïèñàë: [q] Wachtkerl Rein[/q]
Áðàâî! ß òàê è äóìàëà, ÷òî Âû ïðî÷èòàòü ñìîæåòå! --- Çóåâû, Ëîãèíîâû- Ïñêîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü, Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ïëàòîíîâû, Ðîãîâû, Ðîìàíîâû- Âëàäèìèðñêàÿ îáëàñòü
Øèøëîâû, Áåëîâû- Ìîñêîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü
Áóäåíêîâû- Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã, Ïåðìñêèé êðàé
Æåëóäîâû- Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Êàïåðñêèå, Ñâåòëîâû - Ìîñêîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü | | |
| zaraisabelle Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Helsinki / Tallinn Ñîîáùåíèé: 619 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 449 | Ââåðõ #12 íîÿáðÿ 2019 10:40 12 íîÿáðÿ 2019 11:36 PetrFadeev íàïèñàë: [q] ÷òî íàïèñàíî ïåðåä èìåíåì [/q]
Michael Nagel íàïèñàë: [q] (Wachtkerl[/q]
na foorume ISIK.EE toze kogda-to iskali eto slovo i oni pereveli kak VAHIMEES storoz. I tut v ih poiske vidno kak narod peredvigalsja iz raznyh selenij. Dumaju i iskomyj Rein i ego semja peredvigalas i poisk ne tolko okolo Mahtra. " Viimast väidet arvan tõeks seetõttu, et lapse isaks on seal kirjas Wahhi Mart, 1782 revisjonist suutsin aga välja lugeda Mardi ametiks "Wachtkerl" ehk siis vahimees." "Postitas manic » Reede 21. Märts 2008, 20:15:03 ...Nüüd on selgunud, et nad olid päris suured rändurid - Hiiumaalt Rakvere külje alla Kaarlisse, sealt kohe või õige varsti Arknale, sealt läks Gustavi isa Kristian 1855 Vinni (Viru-Jaagupi), sealt Vettikusse Rägaveres, vahepeal vist tagasi Arknale ja lõpuks 1868 Viru-Nigulasse Padasse. Hiljem käis Gustav ise oma perega veel Venemaal Tikapesas ära, kuid tuli 1920 õnneks Eestisse tagasi ja "maandus" Kloodis Rakvere lähedal...." http://www.isik.ee/foorum/viewtopic.php?t=3301 | | |
| Alavr Íà÷èíàþùèé
Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 49 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 16 | Ââåðõ #13 íîÿáðÿ 2019 18:33 Çäðàâñòâóéòå! À ïîìîãèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ðàçîáðàòüñÿ ñ ïðàâîñëàâíûìè õðàìàìè. Èòàê, ïî÷òè âñå ñîáûòèÿ èç ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ, æèâøèõ â Ðåâåëå, çàôèêñèðîâàíû â ìåòðè÷åñêèõ êíèãàõ TLA.1411 Ýòî ïåðèîä ñ 1832 ïî 1900 ãîäû Ýòî â ïåðåâîäå íà SAAGA - Ñîáîð Àëåêñàíäðà Íåâñêîãî Ïðèõîä Ýñòîíñêîé Àïîñòîëüñêîé Ïðàâîñëàâíîé Öåðêâè è ïî÷åìóòî â Íàðâñêîì ïðèõîäå. À íà îáëîæêàõ ìåòðè÷åñêèõ êíèã íàïèñàíî "Ðåâåëüñêèé Ïðåîáðàæåíñêèé ñîáîð". Íî âåäü îí áûë ïîñòðîåí òîëüêî â 1900 ãîäó? Èëè ýòî ÷òî-òî äðóãîå? È êàêîé àäðåñ òîãäà?
À âîò çàïèñü î êðåùåíèè ìîåãî ïðàäåäà â 1864 ãîäó ïî÷åìó-òî â ìåòðè÷åñêîé êíèãå TLA.1412 Òàëëèíí Êàçàíñêèé ïðèõîä Ýñòîíñêîé àïîñòîëüñêîé ïðàâîñëàâíîé öåðêâè Íó çäåñü âñå âðîäå ìåíåå ïîÿòíî, áûâøàÿ ãàðíèçîííàÿ öåðêîâü, ïðàâèëüíîå íàçâàíèå "Õðàì Ðîæäåñòâà Ïðåñâÿòîé Áîãîðîäèöû â Òàëëèíå" Íî ïî÷åìó îíà îòíîñèòñÿ ê Harjumaa ? Èëè ýòî âñå ñåãîäíÿøíèå äåëåíèÿ ñâÿçàíííûå ñ Ýñòîíñêîé àïîñòîëüñêîé ïðàâîñëàâíîé öåðêîâüþ è Ýñòîíñêîé ïðàâîñëàâíîé öåðêîâüþ Ìîñêîâñêîãî ïàòðèàðõàòà? Ñïàñèáî! --- Ëàâðåíòüåâû-Ðåâåëü,Áðóñåíöåâû-Îðëîâñêàÿ îáë., Ñîêîëîâû-Ìîñêâà | | |
Ëþá÷èíîâàÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà Îëüãà, èíæåíåð-ñòðîèòåëü íà ïåíñèè  Îìñê Ñîîáùåíèé: 18150 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 9147 | Ââåðõ #13 íîÿáðÿ 2019 18:56 Alavr ìîæåò áûòü ïóòàíèöà âîçíèêëà èç-çà òîãî, ÷òî ðå÷ü èäåò è î ãîðîäñêèõ õðàìàõ, è î ïîëêîâûõ öåðêâÿõ? Öåðêâè ìîãëà áûòü îñâÿùåíû âî èìÿ îäíîãî è òîãî æå ñâÿòîãî, íî ãîðîäñêàÿ áûëà êîíêðåòíî â óåçäå, â ãîðîäå, à ïîëêîâàÿ - òàì, ãäå â ýòî âðåìÿ ïîëê áûë ðàñêâàðòèðîâàí... --- Ëþá÷èí(îâ), Ïîñòðåøêèí (Ïîñòðåõèí), Ñâèäåðñêèé(îé)(îâ), Áàëîâ, Ñàìñîíîâ, Òóãîâ, Ñóõîâ(ûõ), Òàáàíàêîâ, Ïàêóëåâ, Ñóðàíîâ, Ïîòîöêèé, ×óëêîâ, ×åðäàíöå(î)â, Êóíãóðîâ, Buck, Joa, Brinkmann, Kibbermann, Ñè(å)äÿ(å)êîâ, Øëÿïíèêîâ, Âüþêîâ, Áóëãàêîâ, Ðîæäåñòâåíñêèé, ôîí Éîðê, Êîñòþêîâ | | |
VesnavelÏî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê  Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 200 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 127 | Ââåðõ #13 íîÿáðÿ 2019 20:20 olgablytova íàïèñàë: [q] Ïåðåïèñíûå ëèñòû ïåðåïèñè íàñåëåíèÿ ÊÎÕÒËÀ-ßÐÂÅ íà AIS çà 1959 è 1970 ãîäû õðàíÿòñÿ â Òàëëèíñêîì àðõèâå,ñìîòðåòü òóò:document.write('<a href="https://ais.ra.ee/index.php?module=201&op=2&tyyp=3&otsing_id=20161224224510490910&sess_id=b45589beda1a64065091287c8ae914af&query=%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5+%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8B+%D0%9A%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%8B%D0%BB%D0%B8&naita_ridu=10&active=1&total=12" rel="nofollow" target=_blank>https://ais.ra.ee/index.php?mod...p;total=12</a>' ;https://ais.ra.ee/index.php?mod...p;total=12 [/q]
Îëüãà, à êàê ñìîòðåòü? Ïî ññûëêàì âûõîäèò òîëüêî íà çàêàç. | | |
| Sipsikiarch Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 616 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2019 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 123 | Ââåðõ #14 íîÿáðÿ 2019 10:47 14 íîÿáðÿ 2019 11:04 Êîëëåãè, äîáðûé äåíü. Íóæåí ñîâåò. Íàùóïàë î÷åðåäíóþ âåòêó ôàìèëüíîãî äåðåâà, íóæíî íàéòè ïîäòâåðæäàþùèå äîêóìåíòû, ãäå èñêàòü ïîêà íå ïîíèìàþ. Ñóòü â ñëåäóþùåì: èíòåðåñóåò ïåðñîíà Åìåëüÿíà Áåéåðà, âåðíåå åãî ñâÿçü ñ ïîòåíöèàëüíûìè ïîòîìêàìè. Îí ðîäèëñÿ ïðèìåðíî â 1814 èëè 1815 ã. â Âåððî, äî 1826 ã. óïîìèíàåòñÿ â èñïîâåäàëüíûõ êíèãàõ Åêàòåðèíèíñêîé ïðàâîñëàâíîé öåðêâè òàì æå â Âåððî. È áîëüøå ìåòðèêàõ Âåððî íå ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ íèêîãäà. Äàëåå ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî óåõàë ó÷èòüñÿ â ãèìíàçèþ. Ïîñêîëüêó ðîâíî ÷åðåç 7 ëåò, â 1833 ã. â Äåðïòñêèé óíèâåðñèòåò, îáó÷àòüñÿ íà ïðîâèçîðà, ïîñòóïàåò íåêòî Emil Beyer.  1854 ãîäó â Ïåðíîâå, Åìåëüÿí Áåéåð ñòàíîâèòñÿ âîñïðèåìíèêîì ñâîåãî ïëåìÿííèêà Âèêòîðà Ýíìàíà. Ïðè ýòîì îí îáîçíà÷åí, êàê "Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóáåðíèè ãîðîäà Ñåðïóõîâà àïòåêàðü". Íåäàâíî ÿ íàòêíóëñÿ íà ïðîôèëü Íàòàëèè Åìåëüÿíîâíû Ðåïìàí (Áåéåð) 1843 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ, æèâøåé â Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóáåðíèè, ïðè÷åì ãäå-òî â ðàéîíå Ïîäîëüñêà (äî Ñåðïóõîâà 70 êì). Ïîñêîëüêó ñî÷åòàíèå èìåíè è ôàìèëèè - Åìåëüÿí Áåéåð - êðàéíå ðåäêîå, ïîëàãàþ ÷òî îíà ñ áîëüøîé âåðîÿòíîñòüþ äî÷ü "ìîåãî" Åìåëüÿíà. Î÷åíü õî÷åòñÿ íàéòè äîêóìåíòû, ïîäòâåðæäàþùèå ýòî. Ïî õîäó ðåøåíèÿ ýòîé çàäà÷è âîçíèêëè âîïðîñû: 1. Ãäå íàõîäèëèñü áëèæàéøèå ê Âåððî ãèìíàçèè è ñîõðàíèëèñü ñïèñêè èõ ó÷åíèêîâ? Ïî äðóãîé âåòâè, æèâøåé â Âîñòî÷íîé Ïðóññèè, òàêèå ñïèñêè çà ïðèìåðíî òîò æå ïåðèîä ÿ íàøåë. 2. Ìîæåò áûòü â ëè÷íîì äåëå èç Äåðïòñêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà èíôîðìàöèÿ î òîì, êóäà ñòóäåíò âûáûë ïî îêîí÷àíèè? Äåëî ñîõðàíèëîñü, íî ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ ñòîèò ëè çàêàçûâàòü åãî ñêàíû. 3. Ãäå ìîæåò áûòü èíôîðìàöèÿ î âëàäåëüöàõ àïòåê?  Ìåäèöèíñêèõ ñïèñêàõ ÐÈ èíôîðìàöèÿ îá àïòåêå Áåéåðà â Ñåðïóõîâå åñòü, íî ñàì ðàçäåë "Àïòåêè" ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ â íèõ òîëüêî â 1864 ãîäó. Ñîîòâåòñòâåííî îïðåäåëèòü, êîãäà Åìåëüÿí îêàçàëñÿ â Ñåðïóõîâå è ãäå èñêàòü ìåòðèêè î ðîæäåíèè äåòåé òîæå ïîíÿòü íå ìîãó.
--- ×åðíîâ, Êàðåëüñêèé, Niesluchowska - Áðîííèöêèé ó.;
Ïàõîìîâ, Ãðèøèí, Äåìåøåâ, Åæîâ -Ïðîíñêèé ó.;
Êóëàêîâ, Ïåíÿãèí, Êðàõèí, Êëû÷íèêîâ, Ãîðîæàíêèí; Íèêîëàåâ, Ìèõàëåâ, Áóáíîâ, ×åðìíîãî - Êîçëîâñêèé ó.;
Enman, Pander, Schockhoff, Beyer - Ëèôëÿíäèÿ;
Brunn - Ïðóññèÿ/Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã | | |
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ÀÒÄ Ýñòîíèè
15 óåçäîâ (ìààêîíäîâ), âîçãëàâëÿåìûõ óåçäíûìè ñòàðåéøèíàìè (íàçíà÷àþòñÿ ñðîêîì íà 5 ëåò ïðàâèòåëüñòâîì ïî ïðåäñòàâëåíèþ ìèíèñòðà ïî äåëàì ðåãèîíîâ) è ïîäðàçäåëÿþùèõñÿ íà 226 ìåñòíûõ ñàìîóïðàâëåíèé, â ÷èñëå êîòîðûõ 33 ÿâëÿþòñÿ ãîðîäñêèìè, à 193 âîëîñòíûìè
Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïî îòäåëüíûì íàñåëåííûì ìåñòàì è ñâîèì ëè÷íûì ïîèñêàì îòêðûâàéòå òåìû â ôàìèëüíûõ èëè äíåâíèêîâûõ ðàçäåëàõ. Ñïèñêè íàñåëåííûõ ìåñò ïî ñòðàíàì îãðîìíû è æåëàþùèõ îòêðûòü èíäèâèäóàëüíûå òåìû ìíîãî. Äîïóñêàåòñÿ ðàçáèâêà â ðàçäåëå ïî ãîðîäàì, óåçäàì, âîëîñòÿì. Ïðîñüáà - ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ ýòîé ñõåìû.