Looking For A Marriage Record

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I don't know. Since he worked in Kovno then, it should be Kaunass.
I've googled, there was a noble family named Dobrovolsky in Kovno governorate.
I've not found a street with this name, yet there was a Roman-Catholic church built between 1891-95.
This one. It was also called "Kaunass garrison cathidral""
So maybe the street was near it.

There's no such a street in Moscow.

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Kaunas seems to me to be the most logical place given the period

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No, he wasn't a professor! He was a high school teacher....

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Okay I understand better. I hadn't paid attention to this nuance

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Since 1874 the military service in Russia was across all social estates and compulsory. But, the starting age was 21.

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I see. Difficult to determine if they met in Moscow or Mogilev/Chaussy. Finally in all cases they became friends

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There's no such a name in Russian as ''Nedzia''. Must be Nadezhda. However, there could also be a shortened family nickname for her.

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That's what I thought. Nedzia/Naja is probably the shortcut and Nadezhda. However nothing on Yandex regarding Nadezhda kossova or Sinyavskaya. I will try to see on other sites

FuranNietchaieff íàïèñàë:

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Is there an equivalent of "Ïðàïîðùèê" in English? I'm having a little trouble understanding what a military rank is. I have the impression that it is between the non-commissioned officer and the adjutant?

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Adjutant is a kind of assistant to an officer.
Praporschik as a rank was introduced to Russia during tsar Alexey Romanov, in the 1630s as part of the so-called ''new order regiments''.
It was the rank of ensign (flag) bearers in a regiment. It stems from the word "'prapor''.
Peter I, his son, introduced it as the first junior officer rank (ober-ofitserskiy chin) and brought hereditary nobility until 1845. It was the entry level class, the 14th.
Below there were the so-called ''under-officers'', i.e. non-commisioned officers, that are above privates but below actual officers.
Together with the privates (ryadoviye) ''under-offivers'' (unter oficery) shaped up the group called ''nizhniye chiny'' (low ranks).
Above the junior officers there were ''staff officers'' (stabs-ofitsery), from the 8th to the 6th classes, the top was colonel.
Then there came generals.

They say that the praporschik of the Russian Empire was equvalent to modern Russian second lieutenant (mladshiy leytenant).
The rank today is a kind of senior private, who is just below sergeants and helps them and junior officers manage the privates.

In my humble opinion (which is not professional at all) the contemporary praporschik is somewhere close to the 18th-century Russian corporal (kapral). Then came sergeants. But in the early 19th century they replaced these two by ''junior'' and 'senior'' under-officers.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjutant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praporshchik


FuranNietchaieff íàïèñàë:

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And equivalent of "ãîðöåâú" ?
Grigory was promoted to "Ïðàïîðùèê" on January 6, 1861. I believe this followed the war against the Cossacks here named "ãîðöåâú". But maybe I'm wrong

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Yes, you are. Well, Russian goverment did have to fight Cossacks at some points in history. For example, during the Uprising of Stepan Razin or Emelyan Pugachev. But, here ''gortsy'' refers to the peoples of the Caucasus region that the Russian Empire was trying to conquer, not Cossacks who served in the imperial army.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_War

FuranNietchaieff íàïèñàë:

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Thank you for these clarifications.


Would it be possible to have a translation for this text?
"Ìîãèëåâñêîé ãóáåðíèè, àïðѣëÿ 15 äíÿ 1880 ãîäà.
Êú ïîäàí³þ ïîäëåæèòú ïî êîìàíäѣ. ѳå ïðîøåí³å ïèñàëú ñàìú ïðîñèòåëú. Ïðîøåí³ÿ ñîñòîÿù³é ïî àðìåéñêîé ïѣõîòѣ Êàïèòàíú Ãðèãîð³é Ìèõàéëîâú Íå÷àåâú ðóêó ïðèëîæèëú.

Ñîãëàñíî ïðåäïèñàí³ÿ Ãëàâíàãî Øòàáà îòú 21ãî íîÿáðÿ 1880 ãîäà çà N. 22682 íàñòîÿùåå ïðîøåí³å íà Âûñî÷àéøåå Èìÿ, ñîâñѣìè ïîèìåíîâàííûìè âú íåìú ïðèëîæåí³àìè, ñîñòîÿâøàãî ïî Àðìåéñêîé Ïѣõîòà ñëóæèâøàãî, äî îò÷èñëåí³ÿ ïî ðîäó îðóæ³ÿ íà ñëóæáѣ âú 17îìú ðåçåðâíîìú ïѣõîòíîìú êàäðîâîìú Áàòàë³îíѣ à íûíѣ óâîëåííàãî, Âûñî÷àéøèìú ïðèêàçîìú 20 ìàÿ 1880 ãîäà, îòú ñëóæáû, Êàïèòàíà Íå÷àåâà, ïðåäñòàâëÿÿ Íà÷àëüíèêó Ìѣñòíûõú âîéñêú â Ìèíñêàãî âîåííàãî Îêðóãà, èìѣþ ÷åñòü ïðîñèòü õîäàòàéñòâà åãî ïðåâîñõîäèòåëüñòâà, î íàãðàæäåí³è ëåííïîìÿíóòàãî îôèöåðà : ìóíäèðîì âú îòàñïàâêѣ è îïðåäѣëåííûìú ïî çàêîíëåíí ïåíñ³îíîìú; íà íàãðàæäåíèå-æå ñëѣäóþùèìú ÷èíîìü, îôèöåðúÿòîòú, ïî íåâûñëóãѣ èìú óçàêîíåííàãî ãîäè÷íàãî ôîêÿ, ïîñëѣ ïðîèçâîäñòâà åãî âúïîñëñîêúäí³é ÷èíü - ïðàâà íåèìѣñòü ïðèëîæåíèå : ðåâåðñú ïðîâѣðåíí³é íàäëåæèùèìú îáðàçîìú ïîñëóæíîé ñïèñîêú ìåäèöèíñêîå ñâèäѣòåëüñòâî çà N. 162/6559 ðàñòå÷ú ñëóæáû, âѣäîìîñòü íà ïåíñ³þ èçú ýìåðèòàëüíîé êàññû è îòçûâú çà N. 1587 ñú íàäïèñüþ íà íåìú çà N. 2311.

Ãîðîä Âèëüíà 4 Ìàÿ 1881 ãîäà.
Âèëåíñê³é ãóáåðíñê³èé
Âîèíñê³é íà÷àëüíèêú,
Ãåíåðàëü Ìàéîðú Íàïåðåòè..
Ñòàðø³é Àäúþòàíòú,
Øòàá ñú Êàïèòàíü Äûìîâñê³é."

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Of Mogilev governorate. April, 15th. 1880
Shall be submitted upon command. This petition was written by the petitioner himself. Serving at the army infantry captain Grigory Mikhailov Nechaev undersigned it himself.
According to the prescript of the General Staff Office from the 21st of November, 1880, under # 22682 this petition to His Majesty's name, together with all the attachments, of the army infantry, who served before the dismissal, in accordance to the military branch in service at the 17th personnel reserve infantry batalion, and now dismissed from service, under His Majesty's order from May 20th, 1880, captain Nechaev, submitting to the Head of the local troops of Minsk military district, I am honored to ask for His Excellency of granting the above-mentioned officer with a retirement uniform and a pension he is quilified under the law. As for the commissioning to the next rank, this officer, as he has not served the due term of one year after he was commisioned to the above-mentioned rank, he is not qualified. The attachments: a reversion (of any claims to the Military authorities apart from a penstion) duly testified, a service list, a medical conclusion under # 162/6559, a accountant's calculation sheet for his service, a sheet for a pension and a review (?: I'm not sure what otzyv means here) under # 1587 1587 with a underspription on it under # 2311

The city of Vilno. may 4th, 1881
Vilno governorate's military head major-general Napereti
Senior adjutant, staff-captain Dymovski

FuranNietchaieff íàïèñàë:

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I am searching in Yandex for a confessional list between 1881 and 1885 Lefortovo district containing Grigory Nechaev living in Mikhail Morozov's house. It must exist, right?

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Churches in Moscow were organized according to the so-called ''soroks'' (it was mentioned before). There's no Lefortovo sorok.
Here's the Russian Wiki page on soroks. The list of them is in the table on the right.

Here's the Wiki page on Lefortovo. It mentions the churches there with their names and the map of Moscow with Lefortovo marked red.

As for the Morozov house, it's not possible to say where it was located in Lefortovo. You can search in yandex by this name 'äîì Ìîðîçîâà â äîìå Ìîðîçîâà. I don't remember if the docs mention if that Morozov was a peasant or a meschanin? So, you can try his name. And filter the search by the archives (ÖÃÀ Ìîñêâû).

>> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ OlgaKob îò 8 èþíÿ 2024 22:32

he was a peasant. I tried searching for "peasant Mikhail Morozov" in Russian but it didn't return anything. I will try with the sentence you gave me

edit : There are some confessions for "äîì Ìîðîçîâà" but none of them contain the name of Grigory