Looking For A Marriage Record

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Ignatiy was born on October 18, 1857. No place stated but possibly Belarus. Is the file available at the RGIA not digitized? I can't view the site at the moment.
He was at school in Mogilev before 1885.

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Since he went to Mogilev gymnasium, his family should have very likely resided in Mogilev.


FuranNietchaieff написал:

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In 1885, he was part of the Order of Saint-Stanislas of the 3rd grade as a cavalryman.

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No! He wasn't a cavalryman!!!! Cavalry is a type of military unit!
He didn't serve in the military!
He was a ''cavalier'' of two orders (awards!!!) of st. Stafan and st. Anna.
These were govermental wards, not chivalric kinights orders like the Order of Malta))))

FuranNietchaieff написал:

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. An address is indicated: Garnizonnaya Street. Is it in Lithuania or in Russia (Moscow?)?

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I don't know. Since he worked in Kovno then, it should be Kaunass.
I've googled, there was a noble family named Dobrovolsky in Kovno governorate.
I've not found a street with this name, yet there was a Roman-Catholic church built between 1891-95.
This one. It was also called "Kaunass garrison cathidral""
So maybe the street was near it.

There's no such a street in Moscow.


FuranNietchaieff написал:

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From 1900 to around 1905 he was in Kiev, Ukraine as a professor. He achieved personal nobility too.

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No, he wasn't a professor! He was a high school teacher.
There were three types of high schools in Russia: real schools (realnye uchilischa; for ordinary people, focused on technical studies), gymnasiums (originally for nobility, focused on the classics, humanities), and cadet corps (military schools).
Professors taught at universities.

He received the rank of nadvorny sovetnik (court councillor), a 7th class, and then kollezhsky sovetnik (collegiate councillor), a 6th class of the table of ranks. These were considered quite high in the bureaucratic hyararchy. Yet, of course, below the top governmental officials niche.
The top governmental ranks started with the class 4 of the table of ranks, which is the actual state councillor (deystvitelny statsky sovetnik). These were the ministerial ranks.
Since 1845 the ranks he received gave the right for personall nobility, yet there's no evidence so far, that he actually received the certain patent for it.
as for all these patents, it must be in RGIA, the funds of the Senate's Heraldry (Герольдия Правительствующего Сената), because it was them who granted patents on titles and ranks.

As fo yet. the title of a personal nobleman was to pass to his wife, but not to his children. They had the right for the hereditary honored citizenship (potomstveniy pochetny grazhdanin).
By 1890s these titles no longer had significant value, were more of honorifics.
However, they were still much preferred when it came to state service.

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I don't know. Since he worked in Kovno then, it should be Kaunass.
I've googled, there was a noble family named Dobrovolsky in Kovno governorate.
I've not found a street with this name, yet there was a Roman-Catholic church built between 1891-95.
This one. It was also called "Kaunass garrison cathidral""
So maybe the street was near it.

There's no such a street in Moscow.

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Kaunas seems to me to be the most logical place given the period

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No, he wasn't a professor! He was a high school teacher....

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Okay I understand better. I hadn't paid attention to this nuance

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Since 1874 the military service in Russia was across all social estates and compulsory. But, the starting age was 21.

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I see. Difficult to determine if they met in Moscow or Mogilev/Chaussy. Finally in all cases they became friends

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There's no such a name in Russian as ''Nedzia''. Must be Nadezhda. However, there could also be a shortened family nickname for her.

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That's what I thought. Nedzia/Naja is probably the shortcut and Nadezhda. However nothing on Yandex regarding Nadezhda kossova or Sinyavskaya. I will try to see on other sites

FuranNietchaieff написал:

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Is there an equivalent of "Прапорщик" in English? I'm having a little trouble understanding what a military rank is. I have the impression that it is between the non-commissioned officer and the adjutant?

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Adjutant is a kind of assistant to an officer.
Praporschik as a rank was introduced to Russia during tsar Alexey Romanov, in the 1630s as part of the so-called ''new order regiments''.
It was the rank of ensign (flag) bearers in a regiment. It stems from the word "'prapor''.
Peter I, his son, introduced it as the first junior officer rank (ober-ofitserskiy chin) and brought hereditary nobility until 1845. It was the entry level class, the 14th.
Below there were the so-called ''under-officers'', i.e. non-commisioned officers, that are above privates but below actual officers.
Together with the privates (ryadoviye) ''under-offivers'' (unter oficery) shaped up the group called ''nizhniye chiny'' (low ranks).
Above the junior officers there were ''staff officers'' (stabs-ofitsery), from the 8th to the 6th classes, the top was colonel.
Then there came generals.

They say that the praporschik of the Russian Empire was equvalent to modern Russian second lieutenant (mladshiy leytenant).
The rank today is a kind of senior private, who is just below sergeants and helps them and junior officers manage the privates.

In my humble opinion (which is not professional at all) the contemporary praporschik is somewhere close to the 18th-century Russian corporal (kapral). Then came sergeants. But in the early 19th century they replaced these two by ''junior'' and 'senior'' under-officers.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjutant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praporshchik


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And equivalent of "горцевъ" ?
Grigory was promoted to "Прапорщик" on January 6, 1861. I believe this followed the war against the Cossacks here named "горцевъ". But maybe I'm wrong

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Yes, you are. Well, Russian goverment did have to fight Cossacks at some points in history. For example, during the Uprising of Stepan Razin or Emelyan Pugachev. But, here ''gortsy'' refers to the peoples of the Caucasus region that the Russian Empire was trying to conquer, not Cossacks who served in the imperial army.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_War

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Thank you for these clarifications.


Would it be possible to have a translation for this text?
"Могилевской губернии, апрѣля 15 дня 1880 года.
Къ поданію подлежитъ по командѣ. Сіе прошеніе писалъ самъ просителъ. Прошенія состоящій по армейской пѣхотѣ Капитанъ Григорій Михайловъ Нечаевъ руку приложилъ.

Согласно предписанія Главнаго Штаба отъ 21го ноября 1880 года за N. 22682 настоящее прошеніе на Высочайшее Имя, совсѣми поименованными въ немъ приложеніами, состоявшаго по Армейской Пѣхота служившаго, до отчисленія по роду оружія на службѣ въ 17омъ резервномъ пѣхотномъ кадровомъ Баталіонѣ а нынѣ уволеннаго, Высочайшимъ приказомъ 20 мая 1880 года, отъ службы, Капитана Нечаева, представляя Начальнику Мѣстныхъ войскъ в Минскаго военнаго Округа, имѣю честь просить ходатайства его превосходительства, о награжденіи леннпомянутаго офицера : мундиром въ отаспавкѣ и опредѣленнымъ по законленн пенсіономъ; на награждение-же слѣдующимъ чиномь, офицеръятотъ, по невыслугѣ имъ узаконеннаго годичнаго фокя, послѣ производства его въпослсокъдній чинь - права неимѣсть приложение : реверсъ провѣренній надлежищимъ образомъ послужной списокъ медицинское свидѣтельство за N. 162/6559 растечъ службы, вѣдомость на пенсію изъ эмеритальной кассы и отзывъ за N. 1587 съ надписью на немъ за N. 2311.

Город Вильна 4 Мая 1881 года.
Виленскій губернскіий
Воинскій начальникъ,
Генераль Майоръ Наперети..
Старшій Адъютантъ,
Штаб съ Капитань Дымовскій."

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Of Mogilev governorate. April, 15th. 1880
Shall be submitted upon command. This petition was written by the petitioner himself. Serving at the army infantry captain Grigory Mikhailov Nechaev undersigned it himself.
According to the prescript of the General Staff Office from the 21st of November, 1880, under # 22682 this petition to His Majesty's name, together with all the attachments, of the army infantry, who served before the dismissal, in accordance to the military branch in service at the 17th personnel reserve infantry batalion, and now dismissed from service, under His Majesty's order from May 20th, 1880, captain Nechaev, submitting to the Head of the local troops of Minsk military district, I am honored to ask for His Excellency of granting the above-mentioned officer with a retirement uniform and a pension he is quilified under the law. As for the commissioning to the next rank, this officer, as he has not served the due term of one year after he was commisioned to the above-mentioned rank, he is not qualified. The attachments: a reversion (of any claims to the Military authorities apart from a penstion) duly testified, a service list, a medical conclusion under # 162/6559, a accountant's calculation sheet for his service, a sheet for a pension and a review (?: I'm not sure what otzyv means here) under # 1587 1587 with a underspription on it under # 2311

The city of Vilno. may 4th, 1881
Vilno governorate's military head major-general Napereti
Senior adjutant, staff-captain Dymovski