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Looking for a marriage record in Russian Empire

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Maybe there's a possibility to appeal to the RGVIA (Russian State Archive of Military History), since they can have files and other documents on officers, especially if you know where they served and the period.
Officers had to fill out special forms called 'formilarnye spiski', a kind of record of their service, which included info about their background, at least, it theiretically should contain the social estate they belogned to before the service.

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FuranNietchaieff написал:
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The bronze medal is given to what kind of soldier? Ordinary officers?
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everyone who took part in the war, both soldiers and officers
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The age in the Russian metrical books is rarely acurate, meaning it was never based on documents but on words. In case of the deсeased, sometimes, it could be even based on the evaluation of their age by theшк looks (young, old, very old) by the priest himself. Thus, some metrical books give the unrealistic age of over 100 years.
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Вы меня не поняли. Речь не о метрических книгах. По документам о натурализации Марии Толстой, Григорий Нечаев родился в 1853 году. Но в 1853 году он уже воевал в Крымской войне. Разница в возрасте минимум 20 лет

You misunderstood me. Metric books have nothing to do with it.
According to the documents on the naturalization of Maria Tolstoy, Grigory Nechaev was born in 1853. But in 1853 he had already fought in the Crimean War. The age difference is at least 20 years

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The thread starter talked about Konstantin Mikhailovich's death age.
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For me the date of birth supposedly given by Maria was not the right one
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Then he became the father of Mikhail over 60 years old. Why did Maria need to change her husband's age?


She didn't really change. Maria gave two different brithdate for her husband then her children gave another birthdate of his father. I have more the impression that he gave an approximate date but that they did not know anything about it. It was already known that in 1877 Grigoriy was a staff captain. He couldn't have been born in 1856 or 1857 as Maria claimed. Age didn't match
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https://viewer.rusneb.ru/ru/00...heme=white р. 186
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Thanks for the link, I managed to open it
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OlgaKob написал:
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Maybe there's a possibility to appeal to the RGVIA (Russian State Archive of Military History), since they can have files and other documents on officers, especially if you know where they served and the period.
Officers had to fill out special forms called 'formilarnye spiski', a kind of record of their service, which included info about their background, at least, it theiretically should contain the social estate they belogned to before the service.

РГВИА official website

Section on the forum: https://forum.vgd.ru/174/

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very interesting, I did not know at all
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Григорий Михайлович Нечаев происходил из семьи потомственных печатников.
Grigory Mikhailovich Nechaev came from a family of typographers, who served in the printing house of Moscow University.

The 1850 census of the Moscow Imperial University craftsmans
(The first digit after the name is the age for 1834, the second is the age for 1850)
Mikhail Vasiliev Nechaev 48 - 64
Mikhail Vasiliev 's sons
Vasily 16 died in 1849
Vasily Mikhailov 's wife Elizaveta Fedorova 28
Konstantin 7 - 23
Stepan 5 - 21
Gregory 3 was dismissed on request for military service in 1849
https://yandex.ru/archive/cata...0%B4%D1%83
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Moscow Church of the Nikitsky Forty
March 29, 1810, the batyrshchik (a worker who fills the typed text with ink when printing on a machine) of the University printing house Mikhail Nechaev married in our parish, married the daughter of the batyrshchik of the same printing house Vasily Tikhomirov, the daughter of the maiden Stepanida Vasilyeva.

.https://yandex.ru/archive/catalog/8128687a-ee7d-4979-8f17-cc9b0225e7dc/529?text=%22%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%B8%22+%22%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%22&snippet=%D0%A1%D0%B2%D1%8F%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA+%D0%96%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%81%D1%8F+%D0%B2+%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5+%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BC+%D1%83+%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9+%5C007%5B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%B8%5C007%5D+%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8B%D1%80%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%BA+%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B0+%5C007%5B%D0%9D%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%5C007%5D+%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8F%D0%BB+%D0%B7%D0%B0+%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%8F+%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D0%B6%D0%B5+%5C007%5B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%B8%5C007%5D+%D1%83+%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8B%D1%80%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0+%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%8F+%D0%A2%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0.
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Here's the confession book of Nativity of Virgin Mary Church on the Butyrki, Moscow's Nikitsky Sorok
1828
https://yandex.ru/archive/cata...912e97/612
https://yandex.ru/archive/cata...912e97/628

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Moscow University teredorschik (a printing specialization)
Mikhail Vasilyev Nechaev, 36
His wife, Stepanida Vasilyeva, 30
their children:
Ivan, 15
Vasily, 4
daughter, maiden Anna - 11
Widow, sergeant's wife Anna Alekseeva, 78
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