Looking For A Marriage Record
Looking for a marriage record in Russian Empire
| FuranNietchaieff
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28 àâãóñòà 2023 14:47 Atkara-EV íàïèñàë: [q]
FuranNietchaieff íàïèñàë:
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For me the date of birth supposedly given by Maria was not the right one
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Then he became the father of Mikhail over 60 years old. Why did Maria need to change her husband's age?
She didn't really change. Maria gave two different brithdate for her husband then her children gave another birthdate of his father. I have more the impression that he gave an approximate date but that they did not know anything about it. It was already known that in 1877 Grigoriy was a staff captain. He couldn't have been born in 1856 or 1857 as Maria claimed. Age didn't match
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28 àâãóñòà 2023 14:48 | | |
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28 àâãóñòà 2023 14:56
Thanks for the link, I managed to open it | | |
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28 àâãóñòà 2023 15:00 OlgaKob íàïèñàë: [q] Maybe there's a possibility to appeal to the RGVIA (Russian State Archive of Military History), since they can have files and other documents on officers, especially if you know where they served and the period.
Officers had to fill out special forms called 'formilarnye spiski', a kind of record of their service, which included info about their background, at least, it theiretically should contain the social estate they belogned to before the service.
ÐÃÂÈÀ official website
Section on the forum: https://forum.vgd.ru/174/
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very interesting, I did not know at all | | |
Atkara-EV Î÷åíü ñðåäíåå Ïîâîëæüå Ñîîáùåíèé: 5892 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 8871 | Íàâåðõ ##
28 àâãóñòà 2023 15:34 28 àâãóñòà 2023 15:43 Ãðèãîðèé Ìèõàéëîâè÷ Íå÷àåâ ïðîèñõîäèë èç ñåìüè ïîòîìñòâåííûõ ïå÷àòíèêîâ. Grigory Mikhailovich Nechaev came from a family of typographers, who served in the printing house of Moscow University. The 1850 census of the Moscow Imperial University craftsmans(The first digit after the name is the age for 1834, the second is the age for 1850) Mikhail Vasiliev Nechaev 48 - 64 Mikhail Vasiliev 's sons Vasily 16 died in 1849 Vasily Mikhailov 's wife Elizaveta Fedorova 28 Konstantin 7 - 23 Stepan 5 - 21 Gregory 3 was dismissed on request for military service in 1849https://yandex.ru/archive/cata...0%B4%D1%83 ---
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Atkara-EVÎ÷åíü ñðåäíåå Ïîâîëæüå Ñîîáùåíèé: 5892 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 8871 | Íàâåðõ ##
28 àâãóñòà 2023 15:53 Moscow Church of the Nikitsky Forty
March 29, 1810, the batyrshchik (a worker who fills the typed text with ink when printing on a machine) of the University printing house Mikhail Nechaev married in our parish, married the daughter of the batyrshchik of the same printing house Vasily Tikhomirov, the daughter of the maiden Stepanida Vasilyeva.
.https://yandex.ru/archive/catalog/8128687a-ee7d-4979-8f17-cc9b0225e7dc/529?text=%22%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%B8%22+%22%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%22&snippet=%D0%A1%D0%B2%D1%8F%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA+%D0%96%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%81%D1%8F+%D0%B2+%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5+%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BC+%D1%83+%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9+%5C007%5B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%B8%5C007%5D+%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8B%D1%80%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%BA+%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B0+%5C007%5B%D0%9D%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%5C007%5D+%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8F%D0%BB+%D0%B7%D0%B0+%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%8F+%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D0%B6%D0%B5+%5C007%5B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%B8%5C007%5D+%D1%83+%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8B%D1%80%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0+%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%8F+%D0%A2%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0. ---
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28 àâãóñòà 2023 18:48 15 ôåâðàëÿ 2025 18:31 Thank you very much for these precious documents with their translation.
If I understand correctly, we have the couple Mikhail Vasiliev Nechaev (1786?) and Stepanida Vasilievna Tikhomirova (1790?) who married on March 29, 1810 in Moscow and had 6 children: Ivan (?), Anna (?), Vasily (1818?), Konstantin (1827), Stepan (1829) and Grigory (1831)
Mikhail Vasiliev Nechaev is the son of Vasily X Nechaev and Anna Alekseeva (the widow sergeant)?
Stepanida Vasilievna Tikhomirov is the daughter of Vasily X Tikhomirov and undefined mother
The Nechaev family was a family of master printer at Moscow University so probably all born in Moscow
The only thing that puzzles me is the age of the parents and children according to the confession book found by OlgaKob in 1828. If Mikhail and Stepanida were respectively 36 and 30 years old in 1828, then in 1810 when they married they had 18 and 12 years old
I have a little question about Ivan and Anne Nechaev. They are present in the confession book in 1828 but not in the census 1834-1850. Are they dead or did they just leave the house ? | | Ëàéê (1) |
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28 àâãóñòà 2023 21:01 FuranNietchaieff íàïèñàë: [q] Anna Alekseeva (the widow sergeant)?[/q]
It's not indicated how she's related to him, which means she could be a renter at his home. His mother should have been listed as his mother, because it was required to name the relation in the household, as apparently the household should be a family, but sometimes there could be other people unrelated to the owner. | | Ëàéê (2) |
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