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M. ZAMOZDIK JEAN

Je recherche des informations sur mon grand-père maternel

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christinebordi
Íîâè÷îê

TALANGE
Ñîîáùåíèé: 26
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2021 ã.
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Bonjour,

Je cherche des informations sur mon grand-père maternel et voici les seules informations que j'ai obtenues grâce à son acte de décès en France et grâce à l'acte de naissance de ma maman, sa fille, aussi en France:

Jean ZAMOZDIK
Né le 23/03/1905 à MONTCHARY (acte de décès) ou HONTCHARY (acte de naissance de ma maman) en RUSSIE.
Décédé en FRANCE à Metz le 24/01/1985.

Je n'ai aucun autre renseignement, il a dit à ma maman qu'il était né en Russie dans un village ou une ville près de Moscou.
Certains de ses amis l'appelait Ivan mais officiellement en France son prénom est Jean.

J'ai contacté l'ambassade de France à Moscou mais ils ne peuvent pas m'aider.
Certains membres du forum doutent de l'origine russe du nom pour eux c'est plus ukrainien ou biélorusse et un membre du forum à trouvé une ville à côté de Moscou appelé GONCHARY, j'ai envoyé un mail aux services de l'Etat civil du district de Oblast et j'espère une réponse.
Je ne pense pas que mon grand-père a été naturalisé français, je ne le retrouve pas dans les archives françaises.
Je ne connais pas sa religion.

Est-ce qu'il serait utile de m'adresser à un généalogiste russe pour avancer dans mes recherches ?
Avez-vous un autre idée ou axe de recherche ?

Merci beaucoup
Christine
christinebordi
Íîâè÷îê

TALANGE
Ñîîáùåíèé: 26
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2021 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4
Hello,

I am looking for information on my maternal grandfather and here is the only information I have obtained thanks to his death certificate in France and thanks to the birth certificate of my mother, his daughter, also in France:

Jean ZAMOZDIK
Born on 23/03/1905 in MONTCHARY (death certificate) or HONTCHARY (birth certificate of my mother) in RUSSIA.
Died in FRANCE in Metz on 01/24/1985.

I have no other information, he told my mum that he was born in Russia in a village or town near Moscow.
Some of his friends called him Ivan but officially in France his first name is Jean.

I contacted the French Embassy in Moscow but they cannot help me.
Some forum members doubt the Russian origin of the name for them it's more Ukrainian or Belarusian and a forum member found a town near Moscow called GONCHARY, I sent an email to the civil status services from the district of Oblast and I hope for an answer.
I don't think my grandfather was naturalized French, I can't find him in the French archives.
I don't know his religion.

Would it be useful to contact a Russian genealogist to advance in my research?
Do you have another idea or line of research?

thank you very much
Christine

Helen V

Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 6633
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christinebordi íàïèñàë:
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I have obtained thanks to his death certificate in France
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Place here his death certificate.
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Ïëàí íà ýòó íåäåëþ: ïí - ÖÈÀÌ/ÃÀÐÔ, âò ÐÃÀÝ/ÖÈÀÌ, ñð ÐÃÂÈÀ/ÃÀÐÔ
christinebordi
Íîâè÷îê

TALANGE
Ñîîáùåíèé: 26
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2021 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4
Dear Helen,

As you will see, there is not a lot of informations in his death certificate.
Only his birth and death date and the place of birth MONTCHARY (RUSSIA).



Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë (Death certificat.pdf, 230603 áàéò)
christinebordi
Íîâè÷îê

TALANGE
Ñîîáùåíèé: 26
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2021 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4
Dear Helen,

Could you please help me to understand these two letters received by email ?
I can not manage to translate them because of the PDF format.

Many thanks for your help
Christine


Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë (20220202_36.pdf, 47070 áàéò)
Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë (ÄÞ-350ç.pdf, 331573 áàéò)
Helen V

Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 6633
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 2853

christinebordi íàïèñàë:
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because of the PDF format.
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Ýêñïîðòèðóéòå ðàñòðîâîå èçîáðàæåíèå èç ïäô-ôàéëà è ðàñïîçíàâàéòå óäîáíîé âàì ïðîãðàììîé.
Òàì íàïèñàíî, ÷òî çàïðîñ ïðèíÿò â ðàáîòó.

Êîãäà îí ïðèåõàë âî Ôðàíöèþ - äî èëè ïîñëå WW2?
Êåì îí áûë ïî ïðîôåññèè?
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Ïëàí íà ýòó íåäåëþ: ïí - ÖÈÀÌ/ÃÀÐÔ, âò ÐÃÀÝ/ÖÈÀÌ, ñð ÐÃÂÈÀ/ÃÀÐÔ
abogus

Ñîîáùåíèé: 454
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Ðåéòèíã: 559

Helen V íàïèñàë:
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christinebordi íàïèñàë:
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because of the PDF format.
[/q]


Ýêñïîðòèðóéòå ðàñòðîâîå èçîáðàæåíèå èç ïäô-ôàéëà è ðàñïîçíàâàéòå óäîáíîé âàì ïðîãðàììîé.
Òàì íàïèñàíî, ÷òî çàïðîñ ïðèíÿò â ðàáîòó.

Êîãäà îí ïðèåõàë âî Ôðàíöèþ - äî èëè ïîñëå WW2?
Êåì îí áûë ïî ïðîôåññèè?
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Èç íåïîíÿòíîãî - îòâåò èç Âëàäèìèðñêîé îáëàñòè, à ðàíåå óïîìèíàëàñü òîëüêî Ìîñêâà.
Âîçìîæíî, èùóùèé ïðîñòî âçÿë ñïèñîê èç âèêèïåäèè è ðàçîñëàë çàïðîñû ïðî âñå íàñåëåííûå ïóíêòû ñ íàçâàíèåì Ãîí÷àðû?
 òàêîì ñëó÷àå íàäî ðàññûëàòü ïî âñåì, íàõîäèâøèìñÿ íà 1905 ãîä íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé Èìïåðèè, à íå òîëüêî ïî ñîâðåìåííîé òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèè.
Âïðî÷åì, íàäåþñü, òàê è áûëî ñäåëàíî.
abogus

Ñîîáùåíèé: 454
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2017 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 559

christinebordi íàïèñàë:
[q]
Dear Helen,

Could you please help me to understand these two letters received by email ?
I can not manage to translate them because of the PDF format.

Many thanks for your help
Christine
[/q]



20220202_36:
êîìó:Áîðäè è Âàø emaili

Àäìèíèñòðàöèÿ Âëàäèìèðñêîé îáëàñòè
äàëüøå èõ ðåêâèçèòû

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Óâàæàåìàÿ Êðèñòèí!
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ÄÞ-350:
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Ïèøåò:
Äåïàðòàìåíò Þñòèöèè Âëàäèìèðñêîé îáëàñòè
ðåêâèçèòû
31.01.2021 ¹ÄÞ-350-01-25
Î íàïðàâëåíèè îáðàùåíèÿ

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Helen V

Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 6633
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã.
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Íèêîãî íå ñìóùàåò ïðèâëå÷åíèå äåïàðòàìåíòà þñòèöèè?
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Ïëàí íà ýòó íåäåëþ: ïí - ÖÈÀÌ/ÃÀÐÔ, âò ÐÃÀÝ/ÖÈÀÌ, ñð ÐÃÂÈÀ/ÃÀÐÔ
christinebordi
Íîâè÷îê

TALANGE
Ñîîáùåíèé: 26
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2021 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4
Cher Abogus,

Merci pour votre aide, j'ai enfin pu traduire le texte en français car même avec un logiciel pour extraire le texte la traduction n'était pas complète.

Christine



Dear Abogus,

Thank you so much for your help, I finally manage to translate the letters with your text because even I used a special software to extract the text of each letters, the translation were not good.

Christine
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