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von Wiesen family in St Petersburgh

research of my maternal side relatives

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Antti69

Antti69

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Im so happy when I finally got some great old pictures. Must share with you...

ß òàê ñ÷àñòëèâ, êîãäà íàêîíåö ïîëó÷èë íåñêîëüêî îòëè÷íûõ ñòàðûõ ôîòîãðàôèé. Äîëæåí ïîäåëèòüñÿ ñ âàìè ...


This is Woldemar Wilhelm von Wiesen
Ôîí Âèçåí Âëàäèìèð Íèêîëàåâè÷ (https://www.ria1914.info/index.php/Âèçåí_Âëàäèìèð_Íèêîëàåâè÷)

Woldemar.jpg

Woldemar and Antonina von Wiesen
Woldemar2.jpg


Whole family, Antonina lower left, Pauline von Wiesen (born as Hoffmann) right side, Woldemar right side and their kids Galina and Vladimir, soldier in left is unknown.
Family.jpg

Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: Antonina.jpgKapteeni.jpg, 2430827 áàéòPerhe.jpg, 2472972 áàéò
Antti69

Antti69

Helsinki - Õåëüñèíêè
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I got also this "study", is this some old genalogial study of Fonvizin generally available? French language 1965 Paris 1965 Nicolas Ikonnikov and some other Fonvizin papers copies maybe from some noble books, but they all seem to about Fonvizins not how lutheran part of von Wiesen is related to it.

Åñòü ó ìåíÿ è ýòî «ýòþä», ýòî êàêîå-òî ñòàðîå ðîäîñëîâíîå èññëåäîâàíèå Ôîíâèçèíà îáùåäîñòóïíî? Ôðàíöóçñêèé ÿçûê 1965 Ïàðèæ 1965 Íèêîëÿ Èêîííèêîâ è íåêîòîðûå äðóãèå ñòàòüè Ôîíâèçèíà êîïèðóþò, ìîæåò áûòü, èç êàêèõ-òî áëàãîðîäíûõ êíèã, íî âñå îíè, ïîõîæå, î Ôîíâèçèíàõ, à íå î òîì, êàê ëþòåðàíñêàÿ ÷àñòü ôîí Âèçåíà ñâÿçàíà ñ íèì.


Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: Noblesse_0.jpg
Antti69

Antti69

Helsinki - Õåëüñèíêè
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This is some sketch I got , can aynone say whats written to it? This is my grandfathers brothers studies.

Ýòî êàêîé-òî íàáðîñîê, êîòîðûé ó ìåíÿ åñòü, êòî-íèáóäü ìîæåò ñêàçàòü, ÷òî íà íåì íàïèñàíî?



Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: Sukupuu_1.jpg
Dzhentelmenudachi

Ìîñêîâñêàÿ îáë.
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3046
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Antti69,

Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: file-translating to English.jpg
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Èùó ðîäñòâåííèêîâ (áðàòüåâ, ñåñò¸ð, èõ ïîòîìêîâ è äð.) ìîåãî ïðàäåäà Íûðêîâà Ãåîðãèÿ Èâàíîâè÷à (07.04.1912 - 29.04.1980), óðîæåíöà ñåëà Ìèõàë¸âî Âîñêðåñåíñêîãî ðàéîíà Ìîñêîâñêîé îáëàñòè.
Dzhentelmenudachi

Ìîñêîâñêàÿ îáë.
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3046
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Antti69, "Karlovich" is Nikolay's patronymic. I think you see.
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Èùó ðîäñòâåííèêîâ (áðàòüåâ, ñåñò¸ð, èõ ïîòîìêîâ è äð.) ìîåãî ïðàäåäà Íûðêîâà Ãåîðãèÿ Èâàíîâè÷à (07.04.1912 - 29.04.1980), óðîæåíöà ñåëà Ìèõàë¸âî Âîñêðåñåíñêîãî ðàéîíà Ìîñêîâñêîé îáëàñòè.
Ëàéê (1)
Antti69

Antti69

Helsinki - Õåëüñèíêè
Ñîîáùåíèé: 105
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Hi, thanks for the translation,

Ïðèâåò ñïàñèáî çà ïåðåâîä


antti
Dzhentelmenudachi

Ìîñêîâñêàÿ îáë.
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3046
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Antti69, I’s glad to help you. Good luck to you!
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Èùó ðîäñòâåííèêîâ (áðàòüåâ, ñåñò¸ð, èõ ïîòîìêîâ è äð.) ìîåãî ïðàäåäà Íûðêîâà Ãåîðãèÿ Èâàíîâè÷à (07.04.1912 - 29.04.1980), óðîæåíöà ñåëà Ìèõàë¸âî Âîñêðåñåíñêîãî ðàéîíà Ìîñêîâñêîé îáëàñòè.
Ëàéê (1)
Antti69

Antti69

Helsinki - Õåëüñèíêè
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yavamnedimon íàïèñàë:
[q]
That is not you have exactly asked for, but these may be helpful cases.
First two regarding K..-F. von Wiesen (links you have probably missed), another two I beleive about his grandsons entering gymnasium.
Not available online, only by visiting Archives or ordering the copies there.

ÐÃÈÀ 789 - 1(2) - 2921
Àêàäåìèÿ õóäîæåñòâ Ìèíèñòåðñòâà èìïåðàòîðñêîãî äâîðà. 1845ã. Äåëî îá îïðåäåëåíèè â Àêàäåìèþ ôåëüäøåðà Ê.-Ô. ôîí Âèçåíà
9 ÿíâàðÿ 1845 ã., 21ëèñò
http://rgia.su/object/2036764353

ÐÃÈÀ 789 - 2 - 128
Àêàäåìèÿ õóäîæåñòâ Ìèíèñòåðñòâà èìïåðàòîðñêîãî äâîðà. 1850 ã. Ïî ïðåäñòàâëåíèè øòàá-ëåêàðÿ Îâåðëàõà îá èìåíîâàíèè ñîñòîÿùåãî ïðè íåì ôåëüäøåðà ôîí Âèçåí Ëåêàðñêèì
10 îêòÿáðÿ 1850 ã.
http://rgia.su/object/1175042966

ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá 72 - 1 - 1617
Äåëî î ïðèåìå â ãèìíàçèþ ôîí Âèçåíà Íèêîëàÿ (1894)
https://spbarchives.ru/infres/-/archive/cgia/72/1/1617

ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá 72 - 1 - 1482
Äåëî î ïðèåìå â ãèìíàçèþ ôîí Âèçåíà Âëàäèìèðà (1891-1897)
https://spbarchives.ru/infres/-/archive/cgia/72/1/1482

I beleive somebody can help you also to check Lutheran metric books of St.-Petersburg churches available online from CGIA.
[/q]



Hello all, I got some of these records now with help from some fellow forum user. thanks, but the information Im looking for was not in these documents, I think.


(Father: Carl Friedrich Ferdinand von Wiesen >>> Son? : Nikolai Georg von Wiesen )


Ïðèâåò âñåì, ÿ ïîëó÷èë íåêîòîðûå èç ýòèõ çàïèñåé ñ ïîìîùüþ îäíîãî èç ïîëüçîâàòåëåé ôîðóìà. ñïàñèáî, íî èíôîðìàöèè, êîòîðóþ ÿ èùó, íå áûëî â ýòèõ äîêóìåíòàõ, ÿ òàê äóìàþ.

(I have now ÐÃÈÀ 789 - 2 - 128, ÐÃÈÀ 789 - 1(2) - 2921 and ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá 72 - 1 - 1617 , ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá 72 - 1 - 1482)


But there is lots of other documents in RGIA. Could anyone say something if any of these could include Carl Friedrich Ferdinand`s children names, or which one I should order?

Íî â ÐÃÈÀ åñòü è äðóãèå äîêóìåíòû. Ìîæåò ëè êòî-íèáóäü ñêàçàòü ÷òî-íèáóäü, åñëè â îäíîì èç íèõ ìîãóò áûòü èìåíà äåòåé Êàðëà Ôðèäðèõà Ôåðäèíàíäà, èëè êàêîå èç íèõ ìíå ñëåäóåò çàêàçàòü?

Maybe this one could include childrens names F. 789 Op. 2 1852 D. 15 ?
Ìîæåò, çäåñü ìîæíî áûëî áû âêëþ÷èòü äåòñêèå èìåíà? F. 789 Op. 2 1852 ã. Ä. 15 ?


Code
F. 789 Op. 2 1852 D. 15
Fund name
ACADEMY OF ARTS OF THE MFA
Inventory
F. 789 Op. 2
Inventory section
1852 g.
Heading
Academy of Arts of the Ministry of the Imperial Court. 1852 In relation to the Livonian Treasury about the registration of the children of the paramedic of the Wiesen Academy in the taxation estate
Deadline dates
04 January 1852
https://rgia.su/object/4218747


Code
F. 789 Op. 2 1854 D. 90
Fund name
ACADEMY OF ARTS OF THE MFA
Inventory
F. 789 Op. 2
Inventory section
1854 g.
Heading
Academy of Arts of the Ministry of the Imperial Court. 1854 At the request of a paramedic Wiesen to issue his wife's permit for a separate residence
Deadline dates
June 21, 1854
https://rgia.su/object/4219285

F. 789 Op. 2 1855 D. 96
Fund name
ACADEMY OF ARTS OF THE MFA
Inventory
F. 789 Op. 2
Inventory section
1855 g.
Heading
Academy of Arts of the Ministry of the Imperial Court. 1855 About the death of paramedic Wiesen and the appointment of paramedic Schusler to the Academy
Deadline dates
September 21, 1855
https://rgia.su/object/4219515

F. 789 Op. 2 1857 D. 102
Fund name
ACADEMY OF ARTS OF THE MFA
Inventory
F. 789 Op. 2
Inventory section
1857 g.
Heading
Academy of Arts of the Ministry of the Imperial Court. 1857 At the request of the widow of a paramedic Wiesen to issue her and her children a residence permit
Deadline dates
07 October 1857
https://rgia.su/object/4219969











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- Èùó ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ñåìüå ôîí Âèçåí â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãå, Ìîñêâå èëè Ðèãå. -
-Èùåì ðîäèòåëåé Õóëüäû Ìàðèè Ïðèíö 15.10.1893 Âûáîðã, öåðêîâíûå êíèãè èñ÷åçëè èëè óíè÷òîæåíû èç àðõèâîâ, ìîæåò â ðóññêèõ àðõèâàõ ÷òî-òî îñòàëîñü?
Antti69

Antti69

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okay I ordered these 3 documents below , hope there is some info.


Øèôð
Ô. 789 Îï. 2 1852 ã. Ä. 15
Íàçâàíèå ôîíäà
ÀÊÀÄÅÌÈß ÕÓÄÎÆÅÑÒÂ ÌÈÄâ
Îïèñü
Ô. 789 Îï. 2
Ðàçäåë îïèñè
1852 ã.
Çàãîëîâîê
Àêàäåìèÿ õóäîæåñòâ Ìèíèñòåðñòâà èìïåðàòîðñêîãî äâîðà. 1852 ã. Ïî îòíîøåíèþ Ëèôëÿíäñêîé êàçåííîé ïàëàòû î ïðèïèñêå äåòåé ôåëüäøåðà Àêàäåìèè Âèçåíà â ïîäàòíîå ñîñëîâèå
Êðàéíèå äàòû
04 ÿíâàðÿ 1852 ã.
Ïîñòîÿííàÿ ññûëêà íà äàííîå îïèñàíèå:
https://rgia.su/object/4218747



Øèôð
Ô. 789 Îï. 2 1857 ã. Ä. 102
Íàçâàíèå ôîíäà
ÀÊÀÄÅÌÈß ÕÓÄÎÆÅÑÒÂ ÌÈÄâ
Îïèñü
Ô. 789 Îï. 2
Ðàçäåë îïèñè
1857 ã.
Çàãîëîâîê
Àêàäåìèÿ õóäîæåñòâ Ìèíèñòåðñòâà èìïåðàòîðñêîãî äâîðà. 1857 ã. Ïî ïðîøåíèþ âäîâû ôåëüäøåðà Âèçåíà î âûäà÷å åé ñ äåòüìè âèäà äëÿ æèòåëüñòâà
Êðàéíèå äàòû
07 îêòÿáðÿ 1857 ã.
Ïîñòîÿííàÿ ññûëêà íà äàííîå îïèñàíèå:
https://rgia.su/object/4219969



Ô. 789 Îï. 2 1854 ã. Ä. 90
Íàçâàíèå ôîíäà
ÀÊÀÄÅÌÈß ÕÓÄÎÆÅÑÒÂ ÌÈÄâ
Îïèñü
Ô. 789 Îï. 2
Ðàçäåë îïèñè
1854 ã.
Çàãîëîâîê
Àêàäåìèÿ õóäîæåñòâ Ìèíèñòåðñòâà èìïåðàòîðñêîãî äâîðà. 1854 ã. Ïî ïðîñüáå ôåëüäøåðà Âèçåíà î âûäà÷å æåíå åãî âèäà äëÿ îòäåëüíîãî îò íåãî æèòåëüñòâî
Êðàéíèå äàòû
21 èþíÿ 1854 ã.
Ïîñòîÿííàÿ ññûëêà íà äàííîå îïèñàíèå:
https://rgia.su/object/4219285
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- Èùó ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ñåìüå ôîí Âèçåí â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãå, Ìîñêâå èëè Ðèãå. -
-Èùåì ðîäèòåëåé Õóëüäû Ìàðèè Ïðèíö 15.10.1893 Âûáîðã, öåðêîâíûå êíèãè èñ÷åçëè èëè óíè÷òîæåíû èç àðõèâîâ, ìîæåò â ðóññêèõ àðõèâàõ ÷òî-òî îñòàëîñü?
Antti69

Antti69

Helsinki - Õåëüñèíêè
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Hello again. Im not sure of this but anyone have some time to check this , would it be possible that these two persons are actually the same person?

È ñíîâà çäðàâñòâóéòå. ß íå óâåðåí â ýòîì, íî ó êîãî-íèáóäü åñòü âðåìÿ, ÷òîáû ïðîâåðèòü ýòî, âîçìîæíî ëè, ÷òî ýòè äâà ÷åëîâåêà íà ñàìîì äåëå îäíî è òî æå?


Arthur Wilhelm von Wiesen
Male
Born 30. joulukuuta 1882 Riga, Latvia
Christined 24.04.1883 in St Petersburgh
Parent : Hermann Woldemar von Wiesen Emilie Marie Katharine von Wiesen
and Hermanns father is Carl Friedrich Ferdinand von Wiesen

https://www.geni.com/people/Ar...0306768906


and

Artur Vladimirovich Fonvizin
Father: Voldemar Karlovich von Wiesen
Born 11. tammikuuta 1883 Riga, Latvia and December 30 1882 in the Julian calendar

https://www.geni.com/people/Ar...5761192824
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- Èùó ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ñåìüå ôîí Âèçåí â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãå, Ìîñêâå èëè Ðèãå. -
-Èùåì ðîäèòåëåé Õóëüäû Ìàðèè Ïðèíö 15.10.1893 Âûáîðã, öåðêîâíûå êíèãè èñ÷åçëè èëè óíè÷òîæåíû èç àðõèâîâ, ìîæåò â ðóññêèõ àðõèâàõ ÷òî-òî îñòàëîñü?
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