von Wiesen family in St Petersburgh
research of my maternal side relatives
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24 èþëÿ 2020 10:46 24 èþëÿ 2020 11:20 With help of fellow geni.com user was found following data below .- Now I would need only know if those are mother and father of Alexander Dmitrieff Georgievsky b. around 1854 and his brother Mihail Dmitrieff Georgievskij . I dont know if this info is available for free anywhere. Im also in progress to get some info from Karelian republik archives, but that takes very long time. Basically I only need the info of their mother .
Äìèòðèé Íèêèôîðîâè÷ Ãåîðãèåâñêèé Dmitry Nikiforov Georgievsky born 1825
1852 ãîä ÍÀ ÐÊ ô.25 îï.22 ä.159 Ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè ïåòðîçàâîäñêîãî Ïåòðîïàâëîâñêîãî ñîáîðà áðàêîñî÷åòàíèå 16 ÿíâàðÿ, æåíèõ: êîí÷èâøèé êóðñ â Îëîíåöêîé äóõîâíîé ñåìèíàðèè ñòóäåíò Äìèòðèé Íèêèôîðîâ ÃÅÎÐÃÈÅÂÑÊÈÉ, ïåðâûì áðàêîì, 26 ëåò; íåâåñòà: óìåðøåãî ñòîëîíà÷àëüíèêà Îëîíåöêîé äóõîâíîé êîíñèñòîðèè òèòóëÿðíîãî ñîâåòíèêà Àëåêñàíäðà Àíäðååâà Òðîèöêîãî äî÷ü äåâèöà Àíòîíèäà Àëåêñàíäðîâà, 18 ëåò (Dmitry Nikiforov Georgievsky married (1st marriage) 16.1.1852 Antonida Alexandrova Troitzky, dau died Head of the Olonets Spiritual ConsistoryAlexander Andreev Troitzky. Place of marriage - Petrozavodsk, Peter and Paul cathedral)
Antonida Alexandrova Troitzky born 09. june 1833 Petrozavodsk, Gorod Petrozavodsk, Republic of Karelia, Russia Àíòîíèäà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà Ãåîðãèåâñêàÿ (Òðîèöêàÿ)
Âîñïðèåìíèêè Àíòîíèäû Àëåêñàíäðîâíû - Ïðîêîï Èâàíîâè÷ Öâåòêîâ è Èâàíà Åðìèëîâè÷à Áàðáàøèíà äî÷ü Àêóëèíà. Àíòîíèäà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà ïîâåí÷àíà ñ Äìèòðèåì Íèêèôîðîâè÷åì. Ïîðó÷èòåëè: ßêîâ Àëåêñååâè÷ Øóíãñêèé è Àëåêñåé Èâàíîâè÷ Âåðåíèêèí.
The recipients of Antonida Alexandrovna are Prokop Ivanovich Tsvetkov and Ivan Ermilovich Barbashin, the daughter of Akulin. Antonida Alexandrovna was married to Dmitry Nikiforovich. Guarantors: Yakov Alekseevich Shungsky and Aleksey Ivanovich Verenikin.
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also Dmitry Nikiforov Georgievsky had son Alexander , who married in 1883. Brother of Mihail Dmitrieff Georgievskij 1883 ãîä ÖÃÈÀ. Ô.19. Î.125. Ä.1284. Çàïèñü â ìåòðè÷åñêîé êíèãå Âåí÷àíèå À.Ä. Ãåîðãèåâñêîãî "Íàñòàâíèê Ìóðîìñêîãî Çåìñêîãî Ñåëüñêîãî ó÷èëèùà, îêîí÷èâøèé êóðñ Îëîíåöêîé Äóõîâíîé ñåìèíàðèè Àëåêñàíäð Äìèòðèåâè÷ ÃÅÎÐÃÈÅÂÑÊÈÉ (29 ëåò) Ïîðó÷èòåëü: Ñòóäåíò Îëîíåöêîé Äóõîâíîé Ñåìèíàðèè Ìèõàèë Äìèòðèåâè÷ ÃÅÎÐÃÈÅÂÑÊÈÉ " (CGIA Spb, f. 19, o. 125, d. 1284, brother of Michael Dm. Georgievsky - Alexander Dm. Georgievsky, mentor of zemsky rural school in Muromlya, Karelia, , 29 year, married. Surety (best man) - Michael Dm. Georgievsky).
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24 èþëÿ 2020 11:01 Antti69 íàïèñàë: [q] Or is that Rexova same as that Rehov the 1st husband.[/q]
Sorry it's my misspelling, the correct one is Rehov, the surname of Antonina's the 1st husband. | | |
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16 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 22:20 15 àïðåëÿ 2022 9:23 Im so happy when I finally got some great old pictures. Must share with you... ß òàê ñ÷àñòëèâ, êîãäà íàêîíåö ïîëó÷èë íåñêîëüêî îòëè÷íûõ ñòàðûõ ôîòîãðàôèé. Äîëæåí ïîäåëèòüñÿ ñ âàìè ... This is Woldemar Wilhelm von Wiesen Ôîí Âèçåí Âëàäèìèð Íèêîëàåâè÷ (https://www.ria1914.info/index.php/Âèçåí_Âëàäèìèð_Íèêîëàåâè÷)  Woldemar and Antonina von Wiesen  Whole family, Antonina lower left, Pauline von Wiesen (born as Hoffmann) right side, Woldemar right side and their kids Galina and Vladimir, soldier in left is unknown.
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 10:41 19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 10:49 I got also this "study", is this some old genalogial study of Fonvizin generally available? French language 1965 Paris 1965 Nicolas Ikonnikov and some other Fonvizin papers copies maybe from some noble books, but they all seem to about Fonvizins not how lutheran part of von Wiesen is related to it.
Åñòü ó ìåíÿ è ýòî «ýòþä», ýòî êàêîå-òî ñòàðîå ðîäîñëîâíîå èññëåäîâàíèå Ôîíâèçèíà îáùåäîñòóïíî? Ôðàíöóçñêèé ÿçûê 1965 Ïàðèæ 1965 Íèêîëÿ Èêîííèêîâ è íåêîòîðûå äðóãèå ñòàòüè Ôîíâèçèíà êîïèðóþò, ìîæåò áûòü, èç êàêèõ-òî áëàãîðîäíûõ êíèã, íî âñå îíè, ïîõîæå, î Ôîíâèçèíàõ, à íå î òîì, êàê ëþòåðàíñêàÿ ÷àñòü ôîí Âèçåíà ñâÿçàíà ñ íèì.
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 10:48 27 ìàðòà 2021 13:50 This is some sketch I got , can aynone say whats written to it? This is my grandfathers brothers studies.
Ýòî êàêîé-òî íàáðîñîê, êîòîðûé ó ìåíÿ åñòü, êòî-íèáóäü ìîæåò ñêàçàòü, ÷òî íà íåì íàïèñàíî?
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 13:55 Antti69,
 --- Èùó ðîäñòâåííèêîâ (áðàòüåâ, ñåñò¸ð, èõ ïîòîìêîâ è äð.) ìîåãî ïðàäåäà Íûðêîâà Ãåîðãèÿ Èâàíîâè÷à (07.04.1912 - 29.04.1980), óðîæåíöà ñåëà Ìèõàë¸âî Âîñêðåñåíñêîãî ðàéîíà Ìîñêîâñêîé îáëàñòè. | | |
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 13:57 Antti69, "Karlovich" is Nikolay's patronymic. I think you see. --- Èùó ðîäñòâåííèêîâ (áðàòüåâ, ñåñò¸ð, èõ ïîòîìêîâ è äð.) ìîåãî ïðàäåäà Íûðêîâà Ãåîðãèÿ Èâàíîâè÷à (07.04.1912 - 29.04.1980), óðîæåíöà ñåëà Ìèõàë¸âî Âîñêðåñåíñêîãî ðàéîíà Ìîñêîâñêîé îáëàñòè. | | Ëàéê (1) |
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20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 19:58 Hi, thanks for the translation,
Ïðèâåò ñïàñèáî çà ïåðåâîä
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20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 20:10 Antti69, I’s glad to help you. Good luck to you! --- Èùó ðîäñòâåííèêîâ (áðàòüåâ, ñåñò¸ð, èõ ïîòîìêîâ è äð.) ìîåãî ïðàäåäà Íûðêîâà Ãåîðãèÿ Èâàíîâè÷à (07.04.1912 - 29.04.1980), óðîæåíöà ñåëà Ìèõàë¸âî Âîñêðåñåíñêîãî ðàéîíà Ìîñêîâñêîé îáëàñòè. | | Ëàéê (1) |
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1 îêòÿáðÿ 2020 11:18 yavamnedimon íàïèñàë: [q] That is not you have exactly asked for, but these may be helpful cases. First two regarding K..-F. von Wiesen (links you have probably missed), another two I beleive about his grandsons entering gymnasium. Not available online, only by visiting Archives or ordering the copies there.
ÐÃÈÀ 789 - 1(2) - 2921 Àêàäåìèÿ õóäîæåñòâ Ìèíèñòåðñòâà èìïåðàòîðñêîãî äâîðà. 1845ã. Äåëî îá îïðåäåëåíèè â Àêàäåìèþ ôåëüäøåðà Ê.-Ô. ôîí Âèçåíà 9 ÿíâàðÿ 1845 ã., 21ëèñò http://rgia.su/object/2036764353
ÐÃÈÀ 789 - 2 - 128 Àêàäåìèÿ õóäîæåñòâ Ìèíèñòåðñòâà èìïåðàòîðñêîãî äâîðà. 1850 ã. Ïî ïðåäñòàâëåíèè øòàá-ëåêàðÿ Îâåðëàõà îá èìåíîâàíèè ñîñòîÿùåãî ïðè íåì ôåëüäøåðà ôîí Âèçåí Ëåêàðñêèì 10 îêòÿáðÿ 1850 ã. http://rgia.su/object/1175042966
ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá 72 - 1 - 1617 Äåëî î ïðèåìå â ãèìíàçèþ ôîí Âèçåíà Íèêîëàÿ (1894) https://spbarchives.ru/infres/-/archive/cgia/72/1/1617
ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá 72 - 1 - 1482 Äåëî î ïðèåìå â ãèìíàçèþ ôîí Âèçåíà Âëàäèìèðà (1891-1897) https://spbarchives.ru/infres/-/archive/cgia/72/1/1482
I beleive somebody can help you also to check Lutheran metric books of St.-Petersburg churches available online from CGIA.[/q] Hello all, I got some of these records now with help from some fellow forum user. thanks, but the information Im looking for was not in these documents, I think. (Father: Carl Friedrich Ferdinand von Wiesen >>> Son? : Nikolai Georg von Wiesen ) Ïðèâåò âñåì, ÿ ïîëó÷èë íåêîòîðûå èç ýòèõ çàïèñåé ñ ïîìîùüþ îäíîãî èç ïîëüçîâàòåëåé ôîðóìà. ñïàñèáî, íî èíôîðìàöèè, êîòîðóþ ÿ èùó, íå áûëî â ýòèõ äîêóìåíòàõ, ÿ òàê äóìàþ. (I have now ÐÃÈÀ 789 - 2 - 128, ÐÃÈÀ 789 - 1(2) - 2921 and ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá 72 - 1 - 1617 , ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá 72 - 1 - 1482) But there is lots of other documents in RGIA. Could anyone say something if any of these could include Carl Friedrich Ferdinand`s children names, or which one I should order?Íî â ÐÃÈÀ åñòü è äðóãèå äîêóìåíòû. Ìîæåò ëè êòî-íèáóäü ñêàçàòü ÷òî-íèáóäü, åñëè â îäíîì èç íèõ ìîãóò áûòü èìåíà äåòåé Êàðëà Ôðèäðèõà Ôåðäèíàíäà, èëè êàêîå èç íèõ ìíå ñëåäóåò çàêàçàòü? Maybe this one could include childrens names F. 789 Op. 2 1852 D. 15 ? Ìîæåò, çäåñü ìîæíî áûëî áû âêëþ÷èòü äåòñêèå èìåíà? F. 789 Op. 2 1852 ã. Ä. 15 ? Code F. 789 Op. 2 1852 D. 15 Fund name ACADEMY OF ARTS OF THE MFA Inventory F. 789 Op. 2 Inventory section 1852 g. Heading Academy of Arts of the Ministry of the Imperial Court. 1852 In relation to the Livonian Treasury about the registration of the children of the paramedic of the Wiesen Academy in the taxation estate Deadline dates 04 January 1852 https://rgia.su/object/4218747Code F. 789 Op. 2 1854 D. 90 Fund name ACADEMY OF ARTS OF THE MFA Inventory F. 789 Op. 2 Inventory section 1854 g. Heading Academy of Arts of the Ministry of the Imperial Court. 1854 At the request of a paramedic Wiesen to issue his wife's permit for a separate residence Deadline dates June 21, 1854 https://rgia.su/object/4219285F. 789 Op. 2 1855 D. 96 Fund name ACADEMY OF ARTS OF THE MFA Inventory F. 789 Op. 2 Inventory section 1855 g. Heading Academy of Arts of the Ministry of the Imperial Court. 1855 About the death of paramedic Wiesen and the appointment of paramedic Schusler to the Academy Deadline dates September 21, 1855 https://rgia.su/object/4219515F. 789 Op. 2 1857 D. 102 Fund name ACADEMY OF ARTS OF THE MFA Inventory F. 789 Op. 2 Inventory section 1857 g. Heading Academy of Arts of the Ministry of the Imperial Court. 1857 At the request of the widow of a paramedic Wiesen to issue her and her children a residence permit Deadline dates 07 October 1857 https://rgia.su/object/4219969 --- - Èùó ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ñåìüå ôîí Âèçåí â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãå, Ìîñêâå èëè Ðèãå. -
-Èùåì ðîäèòåëåé Õóëüäû Ìàðèè Ïðèíö 15.10.1893 Âûáîðã, öåðêîâíûå êíèãè èñ÷åçëè èëè óíè÷òîæåíû èç àðõèâîâ, ìîæåò â ðóññêèõ àðõèâàõ ÷òî-òî îñòàëîñü? | | |
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