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15 îêòÿáðÿ 2010 23:34 Äîáðûé äåíü! Âîò óæ íå äóìàëà ÿ, ÷òî áóäó ïèñàòü â ýòîò ðàçäåë, íî âñå æå. Ôàìèëèÿ Íåëåï - îíà ìîæåò áûòü íåìåöêîé? ß ðàíåå â ïðîñòîðàõ èíòåðíåòà âñòðå÷àëà âåðñèþ î òîì, ÷òî áóäòî áû îíà ïèøåòñÿ êàê-òî òèïà Nehlep, íî îòíîñèëàñü ê ýòîìó ñêåïòè÷åñêè: ìîè Íåëåïû - èç êàçàêîâ ×åðíèãîâùèíû, êàêèå òóò íåìöû? Íî âîò èç ìåòðè÷åñêîé êíèãè 1803 ãîäà óçíàëà, ÷òî òàì ôàìèëèÿ ïèñàëàñü êàê Íåëåï-Ïðóñ, ïîòîì Ïðóñ ïîñòåïåííî ïîòåðÿëîñü. Èëè ýòî íå èìååòñÿ â âèäó íåìåöêàÿ ôàìèëèÿ, à ÷òî-òî âðîäå "íåëåïûé, ïîòîìó ÷òî íåìåö"?  ---
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16 îêòÿáðÿ 2010 0:08 Annettt íàïèñàë: [q] òàì ôàìèëèÿ ïèñàëàñü êàê Íåëåï-Ïðóñ, ïîòîì Ïðóñ ïîñòåïåííî ïîòåðÿëîñü[/q]
Âïîëíå âîçìîæíî. Ñðåäè èçäàíèé îáùåñòâà ñåìåéíûõ èññëåäîâàíèé Çàïàäíîé è Âîñòî÷íîé Ïðóññèè èìååòñÿ è òîì ñ ðîäîñëîâíûì äåðåâîì Nehlep: http://www.vffow-buchverkauf.d...id=apgfa15Òàê ÷òî Âàì, íàâåðíîå, ñòîèò èñêàòü ñâîè êîðíè â Ïðóññèè. À âîò íàñ÷åò íåìåöêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ ñàìîé ôàìèëèè - ýòî âðÿä ëè  ---
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16 îêòÿáðÿ 2010 0:36 ×òî-òî ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ, êîðíè - â Ïðóññèè, à ôàìèëèÿ - íå íåìåöêàÿ? Êàê òàê ìîæåò áûòü?
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16 îêòÿáðÿ 2010 0:42 Annettt
 Ïðóññèè áûëî î÷åíü ìíîãî ôàìèëèé ñëàâÿíñêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ... ---
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16 îêòÿáðÿ 2010 10:46 Annettt íàïèñàë: [q]
×òî-òî ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ, êîðíè - â Ïðóññèè, à ôàìèëèÿ - íå íåìåöêàÿ? Êàê òàê ìîæåò áûòü?
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ͳÿê. Âè æ íå áóäåòå ñòâåðäæóâàòè, ùî óñ³ íîñ³¿ ïð³çâèùà Ïðóñ - í³ìö³? Çàðàç â Óêðà¿í³ ç òàêèì ïð³çâèùåì æèâå ïîíàä 5300 îñ³á. ßêùî áðàòè í³ìåöüêèõ êîëîí³ñò³â, ÿê³ íà ïî÷àòêó 19-ãî ñòîë³òòÿ ïðè¿çäèëè îñâîþâàòè îäåñüêó çåìëþ, - òàê âîíè ç'ÿâèëèñÿ â Óêðà¿í³ ç³ ñâî¿ìè ïð³çâèùàìè. À ò³, ùî íàéìàëèñÿ äî Êàòåðèíè, - áóëè í³ìåöüêèìè äâîðÿíàìè ³ äàë³ ñòîëèö³ íå âè¿çäèëè. À ñê³ëüêè ïðóñ³â áóëî ñåðåä êîçàê³â! Òîæ ñëîâó "ïðóñ" ïîòð³áíî øóêàòè ³íøå çíà÷åííÿ. Ïðóñ Ïîòàï, Ïîëêîâûé åñàóë 1791 ð., ëèñòîïàäà 30. - ³äîì³ñòü ³éñüêà Bipíux êîçàê³â ×îðíîìîðñúêèõ ïðî ê³ëüê³ñòü ñòàðøèí i êîçàê³â, ÿê³ íà çåìë³ Â³éñüêà çíàõîäÿòüñÿ ñåëèùà, i ñê³ëüêè â íèõ oc³á ÷îëîâ³÷î¿ òà æ³íî÷î¿ cmami Àâòîð-óïîðÿäíèê Ð.². Øèÿí [Çà âèä.: Êîçàöòâî íà ϳâäí³ Óêðà¿íè. ʳíåöü ÕV²²²-Õ²Õ ñò.. /Àâòîðè-óïîðÿäíèêè: Î.À. Áà÷èíñüêà, Ë.Ì. Ìàëåíêî, Î.À. Ïð³ãàð³í, Ð.². Øèÿí. — Îäåñà:Äðóê, 2000. — Ñ. 98-104.] http://www.cossackdom.com/doc/shyan_chernomor.htm ---
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16 îêòÿáðÿ 2010 12:58 Annettt íàïèñàë: [q] Ôàìèëèÿ Íåëåï - îíà ìîæåò áûòü íåìåöêîé? [/q]
Adele Emmeline Dorothea Nehlep - International Genealogical Index / CE Gender: Female Birth: 23 NOV 1850 Nehlepshof, Goldingen, Latvia, Ussr Alexander Nehlep - International Genealogical Index / CE Gender: Male Birth: 29 SEP 1882 Kiyev, Ukraine, Ussr Eleonore Friederike Susanna Jenny Nehlep - International Genealogical Index / CE Gender: Female Birth: 02 JUN 1831 Puperschlag, Goldingen, Latvia, Ussr Heinrich Nehlep OR Nelip - International Genealogical Index / GE Gender: Male Birth: 14 FEB 1785 <Graudenz, Westpreussen, Preussen> Johannes Eugen Erwin Nehlep - International Genealogical Index / GE Gender: Male Marriage: 13 JUN 1928 Berlin Lichtenberg, Brandenburg, Preussen Annettt íàïèñàë: [q] òàì ôàìèëèÿ ïèñàëàñü êàê Íåëåï-Ïðóñ,[/q]
 Ïîëüøå åñòü øëÿõåòñêàÿ ôàìèëèÿ Nielepiec herbu Prus I, âîçìîæíî, çàïèñü Íåëåï Ïðóñ îçíà÷àåò íå íàöèîíàëüíîñòü, à ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ê ãåðáó. http://www.familysearch.org/En...ame=Nehlephttp://www.verwandt.de/karten/absolut/nehlep.html ---
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