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Íà ñàéòå ÂÃÄ ñîáèðàþòñÿ ëþäè, óâëå÷åííûå ãåíåàëîãèåé, èñòîðèåé, ãåðàëüäèêîé è ò.ä. Çäåñü âû íàéäåòå ñîáåñåäíèêîâ, ýêñïåðòîâ, óìåëûõ ïîìîùíèêîâ â ïîèñêàõ ïðåäêîâ è ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Âàì ïîäñêàæóò ãäå èñêàòü äîêóìåíòû î ïàâøèõ â áîÿõ è ïðîïàâøèõ áåç âåñòè, â êàêîé àðõèâ îáðàòèòüñÿ ïðè èññëåäîâàíèè ðîäîñëîâíîé ñâîåé ñåìüè, ïîìîãóò îïðåäåëèòü ïî ñòàðîé ôîòîãðàôèè ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ê âîèíñêèì ÷àñòÿì, âåäîìñòâàì è ÷èíó. ÂÃÄ - ïîèñê ëþäåé â ïðîøëîì, íàñòîÿùåì è áóäóùåì!
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ÔÐÀÍÖÈß

✔ ÄÈÀËÎÃÎÂÀß òåìà (âîïðîñû/îòâåòû)

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Lorochka
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê

Ìîñêâà,Ðîññèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 119
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2007 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 22

Ôðàíöèÿ (ôð. France, [fʁɑ̃s], îôèöèàëüíîå íàçâàíèå — Ôðàíöóçñêàÿ Ðåñïóáëèêà (ôð. République française, [ʁe.py.blik fʁɑ̃.sɛz], — òðàíñêîíòèíåíòàëüíîå ãîñóäàðñòâî, âêëþ÷àþùåå îñíîâíóþ òåððèòîðèþ â Çàïàäíîé Åâðîïå è ðÿä çàìîðñêèõ ðåãèîíîâ è òåððèòîðèé. Ñòîëèöà — Ïàðèæ.

ÀÒÄ Ôðàíöèè -
Ôðàíöèÿ äåëèòñÿ íà 18 ðåãèîíîâ, èç êîòîðûõ 12 íàõîäÿòñÿ íà åâðîïåéñêîì êîíòèíåíòå, îäèí (Êîðñèêà) — íà îñòðîâå Êîðñèêà, à åù¸ ïÿòü — çàìîðñêèå.
18 ðåãèîíîâ ðàçäåëÿþòñÿ íà 101 äåïàðòàìåíò, à òàêæå Ëèîíñêóþ ìåòðîïîëèþ, êîòîðûå ñîñòîÿò èç 342 îêðóãîâ è 4039 êàíòîíîâ.
Îñíîâîé Ôðàíöèè ÿâëÿþòñÿ 36 682 êîììóíû.
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1. Ìåòðîïîëèÿ (ðàçäåëåíà íà 13 ðåãèîíîâ, 96 äåïàðòàìåíòîâ è Ëèîíñêóþ ìåòðîïîëèþ).
2. 5 çàìîðñêèõ äåïàðòàìåíòîâ: Ãâàäåëóïà, Ìàðòèíèêà, Ãâèàíà, Ðåþíüîí, Ìàéîòòà.
3. 5 çàìîðñêèõ òåððèòîðèé: Ôðàíöóçñêàÿ Ïîëèíåçèÿ, îñòðîâà Óîëëèñ è Ôóòóíà, Ñåí-Ïüåð è Ìèêåëîí, Ñåí-Áàðòåëåìè, Ñåí-Ìàðòåí.
4. 3 òåððèòîðèè, èìåþùèå îñîáûé ñòàòóñ: Íîâàÿ Êàëåäîíèÿ, Êëèïïåðòîí, Ôðàíöóçñêèå Þæíûå è Àíòàðêòè÷åñêèå òåððèòîðèè.



Êîììåíòàðèé ìîäåðàòîðà:
:ex: ÂÍÈÌÀÍÈÅ
Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïî îòäåëüíûì íàñåëåííûì ìåñòàì è ñâîèì ëè÷íûì ïîèñêàì îòêðûâàéòå òåìû â ôàìèëüíûõ èëè äíåâíèêîâûõ ðàçäåëàõ. Ñïèñîê íàñåëåííûõ ìåñò ïî ñòðàíå îãðîìåí è æåëàþùèõ îòêðûòü èíäèâèäóàëüíûå òåìû ìíîãî. Äîïóñêàåòñÿ ðàçáèâêà íà òåìû ïî ãîðîäàì, ðåãèîíàì, îêðóãàì, êàíòîíàì. Ïðîñüáà - ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ ýòîé ñõåìû.


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Ïîèñê ïðîäîëæàåòñÿ
jimmy
Ó÷àñòíèê

Ñîîáùåíèé: 55
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2020 ã.
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Îãðîìíîå ñïàñèáî!
jimmy
Ó÷àñòíèê

Ñîîáùåíèé: 55
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2020 ã.
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tatvos íàïèñàë:
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Àðõèâ Yvelines (https://archives.yvelines.fr/)

Ïåðåïèñü íàñåëåíèÿ 1896 ãîä (Bonnieres-sur-Seine).
Ïåðåïèñü íàñåëåíèÿ 1901 ãîä (Bonnieres-sur-Seine).
Ïåðåïèñü íàñåëåíèÿ 1906 ãîä (Bonnieres-sur-Seine).
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ãäå ìîæíî íàéòè ïîäîáíûå ïåðåïèñè äëÿ Ïàðèæà? Îêðóã 12, ãîäû ïðèìåðíî 1900-1915.
Ahorn
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê

Êðàñíîãîðñê ÌÎ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 145
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2018 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 166
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ãäå ìîæíî íàéòè ïîäîáíûå ïåðåïèñè äëÿ Ïàðèæà? Îêðóã 12, ãîäû ïðèìåðíî 1900-1915.
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå, äàííûå ïåðåïèñåé ïî Ïàðèæó åñòü òîëüêî íà÷èíàÿ ñ 1926 ãîäà. Îíè îöèôðîâàíû è èõ ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü íà ñàéòå àðõèâà: Les recensements quinquennaux de population n'ont donné lieu à Paris à l'établissement de listes nominatives qu'à quatre reprises : en 1926, 1931, 1936 et 1946 http://archives.paris.fr/s/11/denombrements-de-population/
Ïî áîëåå ðàííèì äàòàì, ìíå íóæåí áûë 1911 ãîä, àðõèâ íàì îòâåòèë òàê:
"Monsieur,

Les Recensements nominatifs de Paris (listes) n’existent qu’à partir de 1926. Avant cette date cela été en statistique non nominatives.

Cordialement

Direction des affaires culturelles
Archives de Paris, Département des publics
18, boulevard Sérurier, 75019 PARIS
www.archives.paris.fr"
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jimmy
Ó÷àñòíèê

Ñîîáùåíèé: 55
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Ñïàñèáî åù¸ ðàç!
kbg_dnepr
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7834
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4372
Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè, ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ, åñëè çäåñü https://forum.vgd.ru/193/2788/ âñå çíàòîêè ìîå ñîîáùåíèå âèäåëè è ïðñòî íèêòî íå ìîæåò ïîìî÷ü.

ìîæåò ëè êòî-íèáóäü ïðîâåðèòü â ñïèñêå íàòóðàëèçîâàâøèõñÿ âî Ôð.:
Ôåäîð Ãðèãîðüåâè÷ Ùåðáåö è åãî æåíà Àíàñòàñèÿ (Íþñÿ) âìåñòå ñ äî÷åðüìè Ëèäîé, Íàäåæäîé è Âåðîé óåõàëè èç Åêàòåðèíîñëàâà ñíà÷àëà âî Ôðàíöèþ, à çàòåì ÿêîáû â Àìåðèêó.

ß äàæå íå ìîãó ñåáå ïðåäñòàâèòü, êàê ýòî ìîãëî ïèñàòüñÿ ïî-ôð. è ïî-àíãë.:
Chrcherbets?
Cherbec?
Shcherbets?
Sherbec?

ß íå äóìàþ, ÷òî íàðîä ñèëüíî ïàðèëñÿ ïî ÷àñòè òðàíñëèòåðàöèè... Ïðàâäà, åñëè ñåìüÿ áûëà îáðàçîâàííîé, òî ìîãëè è ñàìè çíàòü, êàê ïèøåòñÿ ôàìèëèÿ...
 îáùåì, åäèíñòâåííûé øàíñ, êàê ìíå êàæåòñÿ - èñêàòü ñåìüþ â öåëîì. Äåâè÷üÿ ôàìèëèÿ Àíàñòàñèè ïîïðîùå - Èâàíèäè (Ivanidi?). Îíà, êàê áóäòî, òîæå ôèãóðèðóåò â äîêóìåíòàõ î íàòóðàëèçàöèè (åñëè îíè íàòóðàëèçîâûâàëèñü).
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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
Òåðñèíåö
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

ã. Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã, ã. Ïóøêèí
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16521
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 29182

kbg_dnepr íàïèñàë:
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ß äàæå íå ìîãó ñåáå ïðåäñòàâèòü, êàê ýòî ìîãëî ïèñàòüñÿ... ïî-àíãë.: Shcherbets?
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Ñîâåðøåííî âåðíî.
Phizik
Ó÷àñòíèê

Phizik

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Checked on Filae, nothing coherent.

When were they born/died/etc. ? (period)

I'll ask on a french forum, there is a database for naturalisation but you have to pay to access it, i'll tell you what i find !
Ëàéê (1)
jimmy
Ó÷àñòíèê

Ñîîáùåíèé: 55
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2020 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 15
Çäðàâñòâóéòå!
Ïîìîãèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ðàñøèôðîâàòü åùå îäíó çàïèñü î ðîæäåíèè.

Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: ìàò.JPG
kbg_dnepr
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7834
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4372
Dear Phizik, thank you very much for the effort. :heart:
In fact, I don't know, if there is a black cat in this dark room:
- were they naturalized???
- under what name?
I can't imagine somebody naming oneself in France Chtcherbets :(( - Maybe Cherbets, Tcherbets, Ivanidi ... Or should the person only have the real name???
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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
kbg_dnepr
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7834
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4372
One more idea about the spelling of the name: Scerbec
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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
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