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20 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 23:01 Äà, Âàøè ìåíîíèòû. Ïî Òèãå, òîëüêî îäèí:
Janzen, Isaak 26 Mar 1894 Tige A3342EWZ50-D045 2792 ---
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20 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 23:06 DAVedenin íàïèñàë: [q] Äà, Âàøè ìåíîíèòû. Ïî Òèãå, òîëüêî îäèí:
Janzen, Isaak 26 Mar 1894 Tige A3342EWZ50-D045 2792 [/q]
Ýòî âû ñ êàêîãî ñàéòà âûïèñàëè? Òàì æå â Òèãå äîëæíû áûòü Òåâñ / Òýâñ (Òöws,Toews, Nows) è Øåðåìåò. Íî ó ìåíÿ åñòü ñîìíåíèå ïî Øåðåìåò... íå çâó÷èò îíà êàê íåìåöêàÿ ôàìèëèÿ... ---
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20 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 23:38 Âûïèñàë ñ http://odessa3.org/search.html ïîëüçóéòåñü ïîèñêîâèêîì. Òàì, ìíîãî è Toews, íî íå â Òèãå. À âîîáùå, íå ôàêò, ÷òî Òèãå è Îðëîâî ïðàðîäèíà Âàøèõ ßíöåí-îâ. Âàø Kornelius ìîã ðîäèòüñÿ è â äðóãîé çàïîðîæñêîé êîëîíèè. Ìîè ïðåäêè-íåìöû ê êîíöó XIX âåêà ðàññåëèëèñü ïî âñåé Óêðàèíå è Ðîññèè – ýòî ÿ ïðî îäèí ïîëòàâñêèé êëàí. È â ïîëòàâñêîé ãóáåðíèè ìîè ðàññëèëèñü âî âñåõ íåìåöêèõ êîëîíèÿõ(êàê ïðàâèëî, â ñëåäñòâèè áðàêîâ). ---
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Âëàäèêàâêàç, ÐÑÎ-Àëàíèÿ
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21 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 1:40 Âîò Âàøè ðîäñòâåííèêè, ýìèãðèðîâàâùèå â Êàíàäó è Àìåðèêó è òàì óìåðøèå.
Janz, Gertruda Sieglinde * 22 Jul 1909 * Tiege + 9 Apr 1978 + Vancouver
Janzen, Helena * 19 Dec 1853 * Tiege + 5 Aug 1936 + Bakersfield
Janzen, Jakob * 20 Mar 1859 * Tiege
Janzen, Margaretha * 17 Jan 1856 * Tiege + 17 Jul 1896
Janzen, Victor * 4 Jun 1922 * Tiege + 19 Oct 1991 + Vancouver
Janzen, Elisabeth * 1 Aug 1861 * Orloff
Jantzen, Franz * 18 Nov 1828 * Orloff + 17 Sep 1891 + Nebraska
Janzen, Helena * 3 Jun 1859 * Orloff + 26 Jan 1920 + Rupert
Janzen, Maria * Abt 1813 * Orloff
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21 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 8:48 21 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 9:23 Betti Betti Íó âîò, áëãîäàðÿ Ampel, óêàçàâøåìó âåðíûå íàçâàíèÿ íåìåöêèõ ïîñåëåíèé, óäàëîñü íàéòè îäíîãî Korneliusa â Îðëîâî(Orloff). À Òèãå îêàçàëîñü Tiege.
Janzen, Kornelius 30 Klassen, Anna 22 1919 8 Orloff
Janzen, Johann 19 Schmidt, Agnes 21 1938 1 Orloff
Janzen, Eduard 25 Mar 1939 Tiege A3342EWZ50-D045 1282
Janzen, Waldemar 26 Jul 1900 Tiege A3342EWZ50-D043 2514
Çäåñü óêàçàíû æåíùèíû, ÷üè äåâè÷üè ôàìèëèè Janzen:
Teske, Peter 23 Janzen, Helene 19 1924 4 Tiege
Fast, Katharina 11 Nov 1862 A3342EWZ50-D044 1064 geb. Janzen
Fast, Katharine 11 Nov 186_ Tiege A3342EWZ50-D045 1034 geb. Janzen
Klassen, Johann 23 Janzen, Aganete 21 1918 7 2 Orloff
Klassen, Peter 24 Janzen, Maria 22 1934 1 Orloff
Neufeld, Johann 24 Janzen, Marie 23 1918 2 1 Orloff
Voth, Jakob 29 Janzen, Marie 26 1921 5 1 Orloff
Wiebe, Johann 27 Janzen, Tina 19 1941 1 Orloff
Wolf, Peter 27 Janzen, Maria 26 1916 10 3 Orloff
Toews Johann 1840 Tiege A3342-EWZ50-I055 2462
Æåíùèíû Óðîæäåííûå Toews:
Peters, Margarethe 1934 Tiege A3342EWZ50-G029 2056 geb. Toews
Isaak, Maria 29 Apr 1865 Tiege A3342-EWZ50-I056 0074 geb. Toews
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21 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 9:23 Íåò, âñå-òàêè Âàøå Îðëîâî ïðîõîäèò ïî íåìåöêèì äîêóìåíòàì, åùå è êàê Orlow. Ïîýòîìó ïîëó÷àéòå åùå ïàðòèþ: Janzen, Johann 1 Oct 1907 Orlow A3342EWZ58-H035 0186 Janzen, Agnes 1885 Orlow A3342EWZ50-D043 1132 geb. Warkentin Janzen, Johann 1 Oct 1907 Orlow A3342EWZ50-D044 1374 Janzen, Susanne 6 Mar 1909 Orlow A3342EWZ50-D044 1934 geb. Dickmann Janzen, Waldemar 7 Aug 1932 Orlow A3342EWZ50-D043 2514 Janzen, Johann 1 Oct 1907 Orlow A3342EWZ58-H037 2852 Janzen, Johann 1 Oct 1907 Orlow A3342EWZ50-D042 2670 Toews, Jakob 22 Feb 1847 Orlow A3342EWZ50-G076 0078 Toews, Kornelius 5 Feb 1875 Orlow A3342-EWZ50-G037 2350 Thiessen, Helene 1866 Orlow A3342EWZ58-H038 0618 geb. Toews Toews, Katharina 19 Mar 1845 Orlow A3342EWZ50-B023 2828 geb. Siemens Thiessen, Helene 1866 Orlow A3342-EWZ50-I049 2762 geb. Toews Toews, Katharina 19 Mar 1845 Orlow A3342-EWZ50-I056 0048 geb. Siemens Toews, Kornelius 5 Feb 1875 Orlow A3342-EWZ50-I055 2462 Toews, Kornelius 24 Jan 1875 Orlow A3342-EWZ50-I056 0146 Toews, Susanne 1846 Orlow A3342-EWZ50-I055 1906 geb. Traksel Riediger, Margarethe 14 Jun 1885 Orlow A3342EWZ50-G075 2800 geb. Toews Riediger, Margarethe 14 Jun 1885 Orlow A3342EWZ50-G076 0078 geb. Toews Riediger, Margarethe 14 Jun 1885 Orlow A3342EWZ50-G076 0192 geb. Toews Toews, Jakob 22 Feb 1847 Orlow A3342EWZ50-G076 0078 Ðàçãðåáàéòå  ---
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21 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 11:07 Ampel íàïèñàë: [q] Âîò Âàøè ðîäñòâåííèêè, ýìèãðèðîâàâùèå â Êàíàäó è Àìåðèêó è òàì óìåðøèå./q]
Ïðî Àìåðèêó ìíå ïîêà íè÷åãî íå èçâåñòíî, íî çà ñïèñîê ÁÎËÜØÎÅ ñïàñèáî.
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21 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 11:27 DAVedenin íàïèñàë: [q] Íåò, âñå-òàêè Âàøå Îðëîâî ïðîõîäèò ïî íåìåöêèì äîêóìåíòàì, åùå è êàê Orlow. Ïîýòîìó ïîëó÷àéòå åùå ïàðòèþ:
Ðàçãðåáàéòå [/q]
Ýòî óæ òî÷íî "ðàçãðåáàòü ìíå è ðàçãðåáàòü". Ðîäíÿ ìîÿ "áûâøàÿ" âçÿëèñü ïîíà÷àëó ñ ýíòóçèàçìîì ïîìîãàòü, à òåïåòü, ÷òî-òî ïðèóòèõëè, à ìíå òàê ìàëî î ßíöåí èçâåñòíî. Janzen, Kornelius 30 Klassen, Anna 22 1919 8 Orloff Ýòîò Kornelius, äóìàþ, ñòàðîâàò áóäåò áûòü ìîèì! Íî ÷åì ÷åðò íå øóòèò, êîãäà Áîã ñïèò... Ñïàñèáî ÎÃÐÎÌÍÎÅ çà ïîìîùü! Ààààààààà, åùå âñòðå÷àëà íàïèñàíèå Îðëîâî, êàê OHRLOFF è Tiege, êàê TIGE ---
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21 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 11:30 DAVedenin
Riediger, Margarethe 14 Jun 1885 Orlow A3342EWZ50-G076 0192 geb. Toews
geb. - îçíà÷àåò äåâè÷üÿ?
A3342EWZ50-G076 0192 - ýòî àðõèâíûå äàííûå? Íîìåð ïë¸íêè, äåëà? À ìîæíî ó íèõ áóäåò êîïèþ äîê-òîâ çàêàçàòü åñëè êòî-ò èç ìîèõ íàéä¸òñÿ?
Ñïàñèáî, Äìèòðèé! ---
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21 ÿíâàðÿ 2008 11:39 À, âîò åùå òàêîå äåëî:
Óçíàëà èç ðàçíîãî ïðî÷èòàííîãî è îò ðîäíè, ÷òî ïî÷òè âñåõ íåìöåâ èç ñ. Òèãå è Îðëîâî "ïåðåñåëèëè" â Ñèáèðü (ïîä Íîâîñèáèðñê) â íà÷àëå ÂÎÂ. Çíàþ, ÷òî ßíöåí Êîðíåé (îòåö ñåìåéñòâà) îòáûâàë òðóäàðìèþ/òðóäëàãåðü, òàì è "ñãèíóë" (÷òî ñãèíóë - ïîêà íå òî÷íî). Ïîòîì â 50-å íàøèõ âûæèâøèõ ßíöåí ñ Ñèáèðè ïåðåáàçèðîâàëè â Êàçàõñòàí (ñ. Åñåíêîëü, Êóñòàíàéñêîé îáë).
Ýòó èíôîðìàöèþ, âîîáùå, áóäåò âîçìîæíî, êàê òî äîêóìåíòàëüíî ïðîñëåäèòü? ---
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