ÏÐÎØÓ ïîìîùè ïî ïåðåâîäó ñ íåìåöêîãî
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16 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 8:55 sofytim íàïèñàë: [q] UPD. Ïîñìîòðåëà íà ñîñåäíèõ ëèñòàõ - à íå ìîæåò ëè òðåòüå ñëîâî ïîñëå Õàðüêîâà áûòü Untertan - ïîääàííûé? À âòîðîå òîãäà - ÷åãî èìåííî ïîääàííûé. Âîò ê ïðèìåðó çàïèñè ñ áîëåå ÷åòêèì íàïèñàíèåì.[/q]
sofytim, äà, ó ìåíÿ áûë âàðèàíò Untertan, íî óæ áîëüíî íåðàçáîð÷èâî íàïèñàíèå â çàïèñè 6969. Ñ áîëåå ÷åòêèì íàïèñàíèåì, ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ýòî èìåííî ýòî ñëîâî. Ïî ñìûñëó ïîäõîäèò èäåàëüíî, ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ è ïîääàíñòâî. Îñòàåòñÿ òîëüêî ðàñøèôðîâàòü, êàêîå. ---
Ïðàñîëîâû (Òâåðü), Îíèêà (Ñëîáîäçåÿ), ×åðíåãà (Îäåññêàÿ îáëàñòü) Ïîïåíêî (Ïîëòàâñêàÿ îáëàñòü), Âèíîãðàä÷èé (ä. Áîãîäàðîâêà Õåðñîíñêîé ãóáåðíèè, ïîçæå Àêòþáèíñêàÿ îáëàñòü, Òåìèðñêèé ðàéîí), Lesniewski (Kobylin) | | |
adroff Ñîîáùåíèé: 1757 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1038 | Íàâåðõ ##
16 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 11:27 16 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 11:39 sofytim íàïèñàë: [q] à íå ìîæåò ëè òðåòüå ñëîâî ïîñëå Õàðüêîâà áûòü Untertan - ïîääàííûé? [/q]
ïîýòîìó âàæíî ñìîòðåòü è ñðàâíèâàòü öåëóþ ñòðàíèöó èëè 2, à íå îòðûâîê ß òîæå ñíà÷àëà äóìàëà Untertan, íî ÿ ñîìíåâàëàñü, ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ íàïèñàíèÿ Untert han. Òåïåðü íàäî äóìàòü, êàêîå ãîñóäàðñòâî: ...gischer (nicht ...fischer) ---
Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ñëåäóþùèì ôàìèëèÿì:
ßêóøå(o)â, Ìàçóíèí = Ïåðìñêèé êðàé
Àäðîâ = Ìåëèòîïîëü, Îðëîâñêàÿ, ×åëÿáèíñêàÿ è Òþìåíñêàÿ îáëàñòè, Õàðáèí
Ñîëîâüåâû, Íîâèêîâû = Îðëîâñêàÿ îáë. | | |
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16 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 11:34 sofytim íàïèñàë: [q] îáó÷åíèÿ ó Ïåòåðà - èíñòèòóò â Õàðüêîâå[/q]
óíèâåðñèòåò â Õàðüêîâå ---
Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ñëåäóþùèì ôàìèëèÿì:
ßêóøå(o)â, Ìàçóíèí = Ïåðìñêèé êðàé
Àäðîâ = Ìåëèòîïîëü, Îðëîâñêàÿ, ×åëÿáèíñêàÿ è Òþìåíñêàÿ îáëàñòè, Õàðáèí
Ñîëîâüåâû, Íîâèêîâû = Îðëîâñêàÿ îáë. | | |
adroffÑîîáùåíèé: 1757 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1038 | Íàâåðõ ##
16 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 12:22 16 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 16:49 adroff íàïèñàë: [q] Òåïåðü íàäî äóìàòü, êàêîå ãîñóäàðñòâî: ...gischer (nicht ...fischer) [/q]
Oesterreichischer Unterthan - àâñòðèéñêèé ïîääàííûé ---
Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ñëåäóþùèì ôàìèëèÿì:
ßêóøå(o)â, Ìàçóíèí = Ïåðìñêèé êðàé
Àäðîâ = Ìåëèòîïîëü, Îðëîâñêàÿ, ×åëÿáèíñêàÿ è Òþìåíñêàÿ îáëàñòè, Õàðáèí
Ñîëîâüåâû, Íîâèêîâû = Îðëîâñêàÿ îáë. | | |
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ã. Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã, ã. Ïóøêèí
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16 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 23:14 sofytim, ôðàãìåíò èç êíèãè ïðî Äåðïòñêèé óíèâåðñèòåò
"Hasselblatt Arnold / Otto Gustav: Album academicum der Kaiserlichen Universität Dorpat, Dorpat, 1889"
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17 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 1:17 adroff íàïèñàë: [q] Oesterreichischer Unterthan - àâñòðèéñêèé ïîääàííûé[/q]
- áèíãî!  Kuzenka, adroff - ñïàñèáî!  ---
Èîíèíû, Ìóðçèíû; Ëèäåìàí, Ñîñààð;
Êíûøåâû/Êíûø, Ëàâðèùåâû, Ïðèëåïñêèå, Êîñòþøèíû, Ëåâ÷åíêî, Êîëîáàåâû, Ïåñòðåöîâû - äðóãèå ôàìèëèè ñì. â òåìàõ | | |
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17 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 1:19 Òåðñèíåö - äà, ýòî ÿ âèäåëà. Íî êàê íè ñòðàííî, ïóòàíèöà áûâàëà è â 1889 ãîäó- òóò î÷åâèäíî ñìåøàëè äàòû è ìåñòî ñëóæáû îòöà è ñûíà.
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17 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 11:18 Äîáðîå óòðî!
Âîïðîñ: ÷òî çà ïðîôåññèè èëè äîëæíîñòè Hofmutter è Hofmuttermann?
Êàê ýòî àäåêâàòíî ïåðåâåñòè?
 çàïèñÿõ ýòî âûãëÿäèò ýòàê:
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èùó ñâåäåíèÿ ïî ôàìèëèÿì: Helwig, Unterkircher, Stempel, Mahter, Jansen (Janzen), Grotcky, Schroeder, Lorenz, Decklu (Deklau), Richter, Block, Berg, Fischer (18 âåê); ïðèìå÷àíèå: áàðîíîâ ñðåäè íèõ âðîäå íåò | | |
| Selwet Íîâè÷îê
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17 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 11:35 17 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 14:37 apelsinKa
10.02.1801. Àíäðåàñ Ôðèäðèõ Ãðîîññ, èìïåðàòîðñêèé êàâàëåðèñò-ïîãðàíè÷íèê ñ çàñòàâû â ßóíöååìå íà ïîñòîå â Áóø-Êëàð-ãåçèíäå;
Éîõàííà Ìàðèÿ Ãèéî, óðîæåíêà Ã..., áûâøàÿ ìàìçåëü â Òóìåíõîôå (Òóìåíñêîé óñàäüáå), ïðèíàäëåæàùåì ãîñïîäàì ôîí Ôèðêñ
Êàê-òî òàê, òîïîíèìû ïîíÿëà íå âñå, èçâèíèòå ---
èùó ñâåäåíèÿ ïî ôàìèëèÿì: Helwig, Unterkircher, Stempel, Mahter, Jansen (Janzen), Grotcky, Schroeder, Lorenz, Decklu (Deklau), Richter, Block, Berg, Fischer (18 âåê); ïðèìå÷àíèå: áàðîíîâ ñðåäè íèõ âðîäå íåò | | |
adroffÑîîáùåíèé: 1757 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1038 | Íàâåðõ ##
18 ôåâðàëÿ 2017 13:15 Selwet íàïèñàë: [q] Âîïðîñ: ÷òî çà ïðîôåññèè èëè äîëæíîñòè Hofmutter è Hofmuttermann? Êàê ýòî àäåêâàòíî ïåðåâåñòè?[/q]
Ýëèçàáåò, yðîæäåííaÿ Øëèï. Êðåñòíûe: 1) Àííà Èyëèana ôîí Wettberg, Æåíà íàñëåäíèêa (õóòîðà) Weessen 2) äâîðîâàÿ (õóòîðà) Weessen, Åâà Àìàëèÿ Âèòòå, áðàòa îòöà ðåáåíêà, Ñóïðóãà ñàïîæíèêa 3) ã-í Ôðèäðèõ Ìàãíóñ ôîí Wettberg, íàñëåäíèê (õóòîðà) Weessen ---
Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ñëåäóþùèì ôàìèëèÿì:
ßêóøå(o)â, Ìàçóíèí = Ïåðìñêèé êðàé
Àäðîâ = Ìåëèòîïîëü, Îðëîâñêàÿ, ×åëÿáèíñêàÿ è Òþìåíñêàÿ îáëàñòè, Õàðáèí
Ñîëîâüåâû, Íîâèêîâû = Îðëîâñêàÿ îáë. | | |
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