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15 ÿíâàðÿ 2013 15:50 fredirain íàïèñàë: [q] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Village Josefstal:
Russian Name: Sergejewka
Ukrainian Name: Josipowka
7. Johannes Herzog, *22.06.1867, Josefstal, Grossliebental, Russia
8. + Dorothea Wilhelm (wife), *17.10.1870, Josefstal, Grossliebental, Russia
I am looking for the parents of this people above. Maybe somebody can help?
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Ìîè ïðåäêè òàê æå èç Josefstal. Ñåìüÿ Herzog ïðèáûëà â êîëîíèþ Èîçåôñòàëü èç êîëîíèè Kleinliebental. Herzog, Johann 59, aus Aschbach/Weisenburg-Elsaß, seine Frau Anna 59, Kinder: Johann 17, Mathäus 15, Maria, 1811 verheiratet, Anna, 1815 gestorben, Martin, 1811 war 21 Jahre alt, dessen Frau Theresa, beide verzogen 1812 nach der Kolonie Josefstal | | |
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15 ÿíâàðÿ 2013 19:03 fredirain íàïèñàë: [q] All my ancestors were catholics. The catholic church records are in the State Archives in Saratov Oblast in the city of Saratov.
That should be the book lists of the villages.
- Fond 1166, "Mogilev Roman Catholic Church Consistory", 1801 - 1853rd
- Fond 1167, "Kherson Roman Catholic Church Consistory", 1850 - 1853rd
- Fund 365, "Tiraspol Roman Catholic Church Consistory", 1853 - 1918.
Perhaps there is even birth certificates of wanted persons. Does anybody know?[/q]
Âñå ìîè ïðåäêè áûëè êàòîëèêàìè. Êàòîëè÷åñêèå öåðêîâíûå êíèãè íàõîäÿòñÿ â ÃÀÑÎ (Ñàðàòîâ). Ïîõîæå, ýòè ñåëà äîëæíû áû áûòü: - ô. 1166, "Ìîãèëåâñêàÿ ÐÊÊ", 1801 - 1853 - ô. 1167, "Õåðñîíñêàÿ ÐÊÊ", 1850 - 1853 - ô. 365, "Òèðàñïîëüñêàÿ ÐÊÊ", 1853 - 1918. Ðàáîòàë ëè êòî-òî ñ ýòèìè äîêóìåíòàìè? ---
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Äàííûå ìîè è ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ ðàçìåùåíû ëè÷íî ìíîþ íà ñàéòå vgd.ru äîáðîâîëüíî è ñïåöèàëüíî äëÿ âîññòàíîâëåíèÿ ðîäîñëîâíîé. Âñÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ âçÿòà èç îòêðûòûõ ïå÷àòíûõ èñòî÷íèêîâ è ãîñóäàðñòâåííûõ àðõèâîâ
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òàêîé ôàìèëèè â ñïèñêàõ ïåðâûõ ïåðåñåëåíöåâ â Ãðóçèþ íåò. Åñòü:Øîê. Øîïëü.Øîïô. Âïîëíå âåðîÿòíî, ÷òî, ëèáî èçìåíåíà ÷àñòè÷íî ôàìèëèÿ, ëèáî, íîñèòåëè ôàìèëèè Øîòò ïðèåõàëè ïîçæå â Òèôëèñ.  ëþáîì ñëó÷àå, ñîâåòóþ âíèìàòåëüíî èçó÷èòü ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè Âàøåé áàáóøêè, òàì äîëæíû áûòü óêàçàíû ðîäèòåëè. ---
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