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OlkaD
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê

OlkaD

Áàðíàóë
Ñîîáùåíèé: 221
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 158
Äîáðûé äåíü! Íà ôîòîãðàôèè èçîáðàæåí ßçûêîâ Èâàí Ïåòðîâè÷ (1918-ìàðò 1943) (ñëåâà), ïðèçâàí â àðìèþ â 1939 ãîäó, áûë êîìàíäèðîì âçâîäà 32 ÑÄ 322 ÑÏ, â ÿíâàðå 1942 ãîäà ïîïàë â îêðóæåíèå ïîä Ìîæàéñêîì , îñâîáîæäåí, 26 ÿíâàðÿ 1942 ãîäà äîñòàâëåí â Ìîñêîâñêèé ÂÏÏ è îòïðàâëåí â Ðÿçàíñêèé ñïåöëàãåðü. Íàïðàâëåí â 1þ Ãâàðäåéñêóþ êàâàëåðèéñêóþ äèâèçèþ â 6 é Ãâ.êàâ. ïîëê, ðÿäîâîé, óáèò â áîþ 24 ìàðòà 1943 ãîäà, Õàðüêîâñêàÿ îáë. Âîïðîñ ïî ôîòî, â êàêîì ãîäó ìîæåò áûòü ñäåëàíà äàííàÿ ôîòîãðàôèÿ è ëþáûå âàøè ìûñëè.
Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Îëüãà



Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: ßçûêîâ Èâàí.jpg
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ĸìêèíû, Êèðååâû, Èëüèíû, ßçûêîâû, Âûäðèíû, Áåðåçîâèêîâû, Ìàñè÷, Áàðàáàíîâ, Âÿçíèêîâ, Ïðèãîðîäñêèõ, Êàðíàóõîâ
Shukhlyada
Íà÷èíàþùèé

Shukhlyada

Minga
Ñîîáùåíèé: 30
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 14
Guess Who ?

Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: 29.jpg
VC
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà

VC

Ñîîáùåíèé: 8586
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4550

Shukhlyada íàïèñàë:
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Guess Who ?
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Switching from one language to another? Make up your mind. :)
A group of non-combatant NCOs in the infantry dress uniform that was introduced in 1907 but became common after 1909. The dark shoulder boards/dark collar combo indicates that it’s not an infantry or a rifle regiment. Unfortunately the image is not clear and it’s hard to tell what’s on the shoulder boards. Could be a letter “K” but I am not sure. The badge is blurred as well. My guess is that it’s the “100 year anniversary of the Local Troops" badge. It matches the uniform. In such case it could be a group of clerks from some local military administration office. Do you have any information on where this picture was taken?
voinych
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

voinych

Ñâåðäëîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü, ã. Áåð¸çîâñêèé
Ñîîáùåíèé: 660
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 535

VC íàïèñàë:
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Switching from one language to another? Make up your mind. A group of non-combatant NCOs in the infantry dress uniform that was introduced in 1907 but became common after 1909. The dark shoulder boards/dark collar combo indicates that it’s not an infantry or a rifle regiment. Unfortunately the image is not clear and it’s hard to tell what’s on the shoulder boards. Could be a letter “K” but I am not sure. The badge is blurred as well. My guess is that it’s the “100 year anniversary of the Local Troops" badge. It matches the uniform. In such case it could be a group of clerks from some local military administration office. Do you have any information on where this picture was taken?
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Thank you.
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Áåëüêîâû-Ïîñïåëîâû-Æèäåëåâû-Ëîáàíîâû (Íîâîïåòðîïàâëîâñêîå, Äàëìàòîâñêèé ðàéîí), Âîéíîâû (Íèæåãîðîäñêàÿ îáëàñòü)
voinych
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

voinych

Ñâåðäëîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü, ã. Áåð¸çîâñêèé
Ñîîáùåíèé: 660
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 535

Shukhlyada íàïèñàë:
[q]
Guess Who ?
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Ìèí ñåçíå àңëàìûéì.
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Áåëüêîâû-Ïîñïåëîâû-Æèäåëåâû-Ëîáàíîâû (Íîâîïåòðîïàâëîâñêîå, Äàëìàòîâñêèé ðàéîí), Âîéíîâû (Íèæåãîðîäñêàÿ îáëàñòü)
VC
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà

VC

Ñîîáùåíèé: 8586
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4550

Aleksios1983 íàïèñàë:
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Ïðîøó ïîìîùè ïî èäåíòèôèêàöèè ôîðìû ìîåãî ïðåäêà, ñîâñåì çàïóòàëñÿ â òîíêîñòÿõ, çíàþ òîëüêî, ÷òî ïîëèöèÿ, è âîçìîæíî Ïåòåðáóðãñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ, íî êàêàÿ ïîëèöèÿ è êîãäà...
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Âñ¸ âåðíî - ïîëèöèÿ. Íà ïîãîíàõ øèðîêèé ïðîäîëüíûé ãàëóí. Ëèáî îêîëîòî÷íûé íàäçèðàòåëü (ãîðîäñêàÿ ïîëèöèÿ) ëèáî ïîëèöåéñêèé óðÿäíèê (óåçäíàÿ). Ðàçíèöà áûëà òîëüêî â öâåòå ãàëóíà - ñåðåáðÿíûé èëè çîëîòîé. Ñíèìîê ìàëîêîíòðàñòíûé, íî ïðåäïîëîæó, ÷òî èìååì äåëî ñî âòîðûì âàðèàíòîì è èçîáðàæåí óðÿäíèê óåçäíîé ïîëèöèè.

Shukhlyada
Íà÷èíàþùèé

Shukhlyada

Minga
Ñîîáùåíèé: 30
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 14
Cherkasy
Shukhlyada
Íà÷èíàþùèé

Shukhlyada

Minga
Ñîîáùåíèé: 30
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 14
This Russian ?
Aleksios1983
Íîâè÷îê

Aleksios1983

Ñàíêò- Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 22
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 19
áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî, õîòü áóäó çíàòü, êàêîãî ðîäà èíôîðìàöèþ èñêàòü. Ïî óðÿäíèêàì óåçäîâ Ïåòåðáóðãñêîé ãóáåðíèè... Î÷åíü ìàëåíüêàÿ, à çàöåïêà âñ¸- òàêè...
VC
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà

VC

Ñîîáùåíèé: 8586
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4550

Shukhlyada íàïèñàë:
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Cherkasy
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In my opinion this group served in the office of the county military chief. If I am not mistaken all local military offices had the same shoulder boards markings based on the name of local brigade they reported to. In this case “K” – Kiev local brigade. This particular font was in use until 1911. Considering that the local troops badge was introduced in 1911 the photo was probably taken in the same year. To make sure check the Kiev governorship’s registry for the same period. It’s possible there were other military offices or units located in Cherkasy that reported directly to the military district headquarter.

Ïåðåâîä.
Íà ìîé âçãëÿä ýòà ãðóïïà ñëóæèò â óïðàâëåíèè óåçäíîãî âîèíñêîãî íà÷àëüíèêà. Åñëè íå îøèáàþñü, òî ó âñåõ ìåñòíûõ óåçäíûõ óïðàâëåíèé áûëà îäèíàêîâàÿ øèôðîâêà ïî íàçâàíèþ ìåñòíîé áðèãàäû.  äàííîì ñëó÷àå "Ê" - Êèåâñêàÿ ìåñòíàÿ áðèãàäà. Ëèòåðà íàïèñàíà ñòàðûì øðèôòîì, êîòîðûé èñïîëüçîâàëñÿ äî 1911-ãî ãîäà. Ñ ó÷åòîì òîãî, ÷òî çíàê ìåñòíûõ âîéñê áûë ó÷ðåæäåí â 1911-ì, òî ñíèìîê, âåðîÿòíî ñäåëàí â òîì æå ãîäó. Äëÿ ïðîâåðêè ïîñìîòðèòå ïàìÿòíóþ êíèæêó Êèåâñêîé ãóáåðíèè íà óêàçàííûé ïåðèîä. Âîçìîæíî â ×åðêàññàõ íàõîäèëèñü åù¸ êàêèå-ëèáî óïðàâëåíèÿ îêðóæíîãî ïîä÷èíåíèÿ.


Shukhlyada íàïèñàë:
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This Russian ?
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No idea what you mean.
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