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| Orvokki
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2017 .
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| Hello msv120471
I am sorry but I don't have facebook.
I can write in Finnish to those persons of Kivennapa. I ask more information about Arvi and Paavo. Then you can see if You have the right or wrong person. And then You or I can ask more. Is this okay for You?
Was Arvi Your grandfather?
, msv120471.
, facebook.
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| Orvokki
: 31
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| I will try to ask first if it is the right Arvi. Then we can ask more and tell more if we find somebody who wants to talk with us. I will tell You when I get the answer. , . , -, . , . ---
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| Orvokki
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| Orvokki
: 31
2017 .
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| I wrote to two persons there. One of them answered. I don't translate it with google translator, because names can go wrong. I translated only few words that You can understand. Do you think this is the right Arvi?
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s = synt. = syntynyt = born =
k = kuol. = kuollut = dead =
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Painilainen Jaakko (s. 30.06.1833 Kivennapa Kekrola, k. 08.01.1892 Kekrola)
: Suutari Helena (s. 29.01.1846 Kivennapa Suurselkä, k. ?)
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Painilainen Saara, synt. 17.10.1866, kuol. 05.05.1889
Painilainen Maria, synt. 23.10.1870, kuol. 11.08.1875
Painilainen Hedvig, synt. 23.01.1873, kuol. 06.08.1875
Painilainen Juho, synt. 30.04.1875, kuol. 11.04.1879
Painilainen Maria, synt. 17.03.1877, kuol. 19.07.1877
Painilainen Paavo, synt. 02.06.1878, kuol. 07.09.1941
Painilainen Anna, synt. 06.09.1881, kuol. 01.01.1882
Painilainen Juho, synt. 24.12.1882, kuol. 30.08.1923
Painilainen Sakari, synt. 20.03.1886
Painilainen Paavo (s. 02.06.1878 Kivennapa Kekrola, k. 07.09.1941 place unknown)
: Nuutinen Helena (s. 10.03.1883 Kivennapa Kekrola, k. ?)
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Painilainen Antti, synt. 21.01.1908
Painilainen Aina, synt. 01.09.1910
Painilainen Juho, synt. 02.08.1914
Painilainen Arvi, synt. 05.01.1920
Last name Nuutinen has been written before also Knutinen or Knuutinen.
Paavo Painilainen migrated from Kekrola to Hartonen.
Nuutinen Knutinen Knuutinen.
Paavo Painilainen Kekrola Hartonen.
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