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| Orvokki
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22 2017 21:10 22 2017 21:13 Hello I write from Finland. This is one family book directory, which can be found online. (The book can not be found online.) http://www.kirjavainen.fi/tied...emisto.pdfLook at page 648. There is Arvi Painilainen, born in 1920, the time of death is not known. There is also Paavo Painilainen, born in 1878, died in 1941. Both are listed on page 251 and page 284 of the book. They are very likely in the same family table, so they can be father and son. Could this be the right Arvi Painilainen? You can write and ask here: http://www.kirjavainen.fi/hallitus.htmlThat is Kirjavainen family society. If you need help to write there, I can help.  . , . ( .) http://www.kirjavainen.fi/tied...emisto.pdf 648. Arvi Painilainen, 1920 , . Painilainen, 1878 , 1941 . 251 284 . , , . Arvi Painilainen? : http://www.kirjavainen.fi/hallitus.html Kirjavainen . , , . ---
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| Orvokki
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22 2017 22:03 22 2017 22:05 vegis1 : [q] Tarkista kirkon kirjan [/q]
You say that Metso Heikki is born 07.01.1902 and the document say that he is born 27.09.1902. Can you explain more? I don't understand. Are you looking for his grandparents or what relatives? , Metso 07.01.1902 , 27.09.1902. ? . ? ---
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| Orvokki
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2017 .
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| Hello msv120471
I am sorry but I don't have facebook.
I can write in Finnish to those persons of Kivennapa. I ask more information about Arvi and Paavo. Then you can see if You have the right or wrong person. And then You or I can ask more. Is this okay for You?
Was Arvi Your grandfather?
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| Orvokki
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2017 .
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| I will try to ask first if it is the right Arvi. Then we can ask more and tell more if we find somebody who wants to talk with us. I will tell You when I get the answer. , . , -, . , . ---
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