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| Gul Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà Ñîîáùåíèé: 12560 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 42730 | è áëîãåð HUMUS! Óáåäèòåëüíî ïðîøó! Åñëè Âû çàèìñòâóåòå èíôîðìàöèþ èç ïîñòîâ (äàæå âûðåçêè èç ãàçåò ñ êîììåíòàðèÿìè ), ñâåäåíèÿ è ôîòîãðàôèè èç ëè÷íûõ àðõèâîâ ó÷àñòíèêîâ òåìû, ïîæàëóéñòà, äåëàéòå ññûëêè òîëüêî íà ýòîò èñòî÷íèê- https://forum.vgd.ru/614/31743/ Ðóññêèé Õàðáèí. Äíåâíèê Gul ![]() Õàðáèíñêèå òåìû â äíåâíèêå GUL Ðóññêèé Õàðáèí Àðõèâíûå è äð. èñòî÷íèêè ê õàðáèíñêèì òåìàì Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î õàðáèíöàõ Cïèñêè õàðáèíöåâ è æèòåëåé ñòàíöèé ÊÂÆÄ Âåñü Õàðáèí 1926 Ýìèãðàöèÿ èç Õàðáèíà ñì. Ñïèñêè «Àðåñòó ïîäëåæàò âñå õàðáèíöû...» ÊÂÆÄ ----- ñòàíöèè è ó÷àñòêè Ïðîåêò Ìåìîðèàëà íà êëàäáèùå Õóàíøàíü Õàðáèí Íåêðîëîãè, îïóáëèêîâàííûå â õàðáèíñêèõ ãàçåòàõ Íàó÷íî-ïðàêòè÷åñêàÿ êîíôåðåíöèÿ, ïîñâÿùåííàÿ 120-ëåòèþ Õàðáèíà.. 2018 Ñïèñîê ñëóæàùèõ ÊÂÆÄ 1903-1913 Ñïèñêè ïîôàìèëüíûå óåçæàþùèõ â ÑÑÑÐ ïîñëå ïðîäàæè ÊÂÆÄ â 1935 (ïî äàòàì è ýøåëîíàì) Âñåìèðíûé êîíãðåññ âûõîäöåâ èç Õàðáèíà 2017 15 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2010 Ôîðóì÷àíå-ïîòîìêè õàðáèíöåâ,âñå, êòî èíòåðåñóåòñÿ èñòîðèåé Õàðáèíà, ðàññêàæåì çäåñü, íà ôîðóìå,îá ýòîì óäèâèòåëüíîì èñ÷åçíóâøåì ãîðîäå, î ëþäÿõ, ïîñòðîèâøèõ ýòîò ãîðîä è æèâøèõ â íåì, î ëþäÿõ, â òÿæåëûå âðåìåíà íàøåäøèõ çäåñü ïðèþò è äîì ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ÕÀÐÁÈÍ Ïîä àñôàëüò ñóõîé è ãëàäêèé, Íàëåäü íàøèõ ëåò, Èçûñêàòåëüñêîé ïàëàòêè Êàíóë äàâíèé ñëåä... Ôëàã Ðîññèéñêèé. Êîíîâÿçè. Ãîâîð êàçàêîâ. Íåò ñ áûëûì è ðîáêîé ñâÿçè, — Ðóññêèé ðîê òàêîâ. Èíæåíåð. Ðàñòåãíóò âîðîò. Ôëÿãà. Êàðàáèí. "Çäåñü ïîñòðîèì ðóññêèé ãîðîä, Íàçîâåì — Õàðáèí" Ìèëûé ãîðîä, ãîðä è ñòðîåí, Áóäåò äåíü òàêîé, ×òî íå âñïîìíÿò, ÷òî ïîñòðîåí Ðóññêîé òû ðóêîé. Ïóñòü óäåë ïîäîáíûé ãîðåê — Íå îïóñòèì ãëàç: Âñïîìÿíè, ñòàðèê-èñòîðèê, Âñïîìÿíè î íàñ. Òû çàáûòîå îòûùåøü, Âïèøåøü â ñêîðáíûé ëèñò, Äà íà ðóññêîå êëàäáèùå Çàáåæèò òóðèñò. Îí âîçüìåò ñ ñîáîé ñëîâàðèê Íàäïèñè ÷èòàòü... Òàê ïîãàñíåò íàø ôîíàðèê, Óòîìÿñü ìåðöàòü! Ýòî îòðûâîê èç ñòèõîòâîðåíèÿ òàëàíòëèâîãî õàðáèíñêîãî ïîýòà Àðñåíèÿ Íåñìåëîâà (1889-1945 ) ------------------------- Õàðáèíñêàÿ èêîíà Áîæèåé Ìàòåðè |
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| annushkasempire Ñîîáùåíèé: 127 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 44 | Great Grandfather Trofim Andrianovich born 1887and his wife Sofia Lukinishna (Potekhina) born 1886, lived in Harbin from 1923 as far as I know, originally from Achinsk. Trofim was a teacher, although my Father says Trofim had been an Imperial Army Artillery captain, his wife a seamstress. They had 4 children all born in Achinsk area and lived in China : Viktor Trofimovich was a Harbin Railway Guard and died in China possibly drowned according to my Father's recollection, Klaudia Trofimovna was an opera singer, Alexandra Trofimovna was married to Savrasova then Pokrovsky, she was also an opera singer, Konstantin ( my Grandfather) was a dancer in films in China, possibly a policeman for a time and worked in Japanese department store as his Japanese language was very good. Dad says Kon may have been an interpreter at the Japanese War Crimes Tribunals Oh I forgot: My Father said my Grandfather Konstantin married several times after his wife Anna left them. There may well have been another male child born in Shanghai to Konstantin, probably 1940's, no idea of the name of the male child. So I may have an Uncle in China or maybe America! Grandfather brought one wife to Australia with him by the name of Alexandra and her son Sergei |
| Tasha56 Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àcòíèê Ðîññèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 12636 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 41384 | annushkasempire Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ, ÷òî âêëèíèâàþñü â äèàëîã. Ïîïàëàñü çàïèñü â Ñåòè... Êîíåö 1940-õ – íà÷àëî 1950 ãîäîâ îçíàìåíîâàí âñïëåñêîì â êóëüòóðíîé æèçíè Ñâåðäëîâñêà. Âî ìíîãîì ýòî ñâÿçàíî ñ ïîñëåâîåííîé ðåïàòðèàöèåé ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé êóëüòóðû èç Ìàíü÷æóðèè. Ñðåäè íèõ áûëî íåìàëî îáðàçîâàííûõ è òâîð÷åñêèõ ëþäåé…..Ñðåäè íèõ áàëåðèíà Ñîôüÿ Ëåîíèäîâíà Òàðàíîâñêàÿ…. .....ïðîâåðî÷íî-ôèëüòðàöèîííûå äåëà õðàíÿòñÿ â Ãîñóäàðñòâåííîì àðõèâå àäìèíèñòðàòèâíûõ îðãàíîâ Ñâåðäëîâñêîé îáëàñòè (..filtration of the case are stored in the State archive of the administrative authorities of the Sverdlovsk region...) http://uprarchives.midural.ru/article/show/id/135 ×åðíîâàÿ ñõåìà ïîèñêà ïî Âàøåìó ñîîáùåíèþ - 1. Ñèòíèêîâ Òðîôèì Àíäðèàíîâè÷, 1887 ã. Æåíà – Ñèòíèêîâà (óðîæäåííàÿ Ïîòåõèíà) Ñîôüÿ Ëóêèíè÷íà, 1886 ã., ðîäèëàñü â ã.À÷èíñêå (?) 1.1. Ñèòíèêîâ Âèêòîð Òðîôèìîâè÷, óðîæåíåö À÷èíñêà – óìåð â Êèòàå 1.2. Ñèòíèêîâà Êëàâäèÿ Òðîôèìîâíà, óðîæåíêà À÷èíñêà, áûëà îïåðíîé ïåâèöåé 1.3. Ñèòíèêîâà (ïî ìóæüÿì Ñàâðàñîâà, Ïîêðîâñêàÿ) Àëåêñàíäðà Òðîôèìîâíà, óðîæåíêà À÷èíñêà, áûëà îïåðíîé ïåâèöåé Ìóæ1 – Ñàâðàñîâ Ìóæ2 - Ïîêðîâñêèé 1.4. Ñèòíèêîâ Êîíñòàíòèí Òðîôèìîâè÷, óðîæåíåö À÷èíñêà, áûë òàíöîðîì â êèíî (Êèòàé)…( âîçìîæíî, ïîëèöåéñêèé... íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ ðàáîòàë â ÿïîíñêîì óíèâåðìàãå)…ó íåãî áûëà íå îäíà æåíà ïîñëå óõîäà Àííû… Æåíà – Àííà (ïî ðàññêàçàì ðîäñòâåííèêîâ – áûëà ñèðîòîé, âîñïèòàíà êàòîëè÷åñêèìè ìîíàõèíÿìè)... |
| Gul Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà Ñîîáùåíèé: 12560 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 42730 | annushkasempire íàïèñàë: Ïðàäåä Òðîôèì Àíäðèàíîâè÷ ðîäèëñÿ 1887,åãî æåíà Ñîôüÿ Ëóêèíèøíà (Ïîòåõèíà) ðîäèëàñü â 1886. Æèëè â Õàðáèíå ñ 1923. Íàñêîëüêî ÿ çíàþ, ðîäîì èç À÷èíñêà. Òðîôèì áûë ó÷èòåëåì, õîòÿ ìîé îòåö ãîâîðèò, ÷òî Òðîôèì áûë êàïèòàíîì àðòèëëåðèè èìïåðàòîðñêîé àðìèè, à åãî æåíà --øâååé. Âñå èõ ÷åòâåðî äåòåé ðîäèëèñü â À÷èíñêå è æèëè â Êèòàå: Âèêòîð Òðîôèìîâè÷ ñëóæèë îáõîä÷èêîì (?) è óìåð â Êèòàå. Êàê âñïîìèíàåò ìîé îòåö, âåðîÿòíî, óòîíóë Êëàâäèÿ Òðîôèìîâíà áûëà îïåðíîé ïåâèöåé. Àëåêñàíäðà Òðîôèìîâíà áûëà çàìóæåì çà Ñàâðàñîâûì çàòåì Ïîêðîâñêèì, îíà òàêæå áûëà îïåðíîé ïåâèöåé Êîíñòàíòèí (ìîé äåä) áûë òàíöîâùèêîì â êèíî â Êèòàå (?), êàêîå-òî âðåìÿ áûë ïîëèöåéñêèì è ðàáîòàë â ÿïîíñêîì óíèâåðìàãå,ò.ê. õîðîøî çíàë ÿïîíñêèé ÿçûê. Ïàïà ãîâîðèò, ÷òî Êîíñòàíòèí, âîçìîæíî, áûë ïåðåâîä÷èêîì â Òðèáóíàëå íàä ÿïîíñêèìè âîåííûìè ïðåñòóïëåíèÿìè Åãî æåíà Àííà (ìîÿ áàáóøêà) áûëà ñèðîòîé, âîñïèòàííîé êàòîëè÷åñêèìè ìîíàõèíÿìè , âèäèìî, çàòåì ïåðåäàííîé Íèêàìóðå(?!)è ñïàñåííîé îò íåãî Òðîôèìîì Àäðèàíîâè÷åì, à çàòåì Àííà âûøëà çàìóæ çà ìîåãî äåäà. Ìîé îòåö ðîäèëñÿ â 1938 Òðîôèì óìåð â Õàðáèíå, ïðè÷èíó ñìåðòè ÿ íå çíàþ. È ÿ õîòåëà áû óçíàòü, ãäå îí ïîõîðîíåí Êëàâäèÿ è åå äî÷ü, êóçèíà Ñîôèÿ æèëè â Øàíõàå êàêîå-òî âðåìÿ, ãäå Êëàâäèÿ ïåëà â îïåðå Ëèöåéñêîãî òåàòðà è åå äî÷ü áûëà áàëåðèíîé è Ãîøà (ìóæ Êëàâäèè?) ---ïèàíèñò â øàíõàéñêîì Ëèöåéñêîì òåàòðå Ñîôèÿ Ëåîíèäîâíà âûøëà çàìóæ çà Àíàòîëèÿ Òàðàíîâñêîãî è èìåëà ñûíà , âîçìîæíî, ïî èìåíè Ñåðãåé. Îíè âåðíóëèñü â Ðîññèþ â 1940-õ ñ Ãîøåé Ðîòò. 1949 ìîé äåä Êîíñòàíòèí è ìîé îòåö Àäðèàí óåõàëè èç Øàíõàÿ ñíà÷àëà íà Ôèëèïïèíû, ãäå áûë ëàãåðü ÎÎÍ ( ïàëàòî÷íûé ãîðîäîê íà Òóáàáàî), çàòåì â Àâñòðàëèþ. Ïîçæå, â 1951, ìîÿ äâîþðîäíàÿ áàáóøêà Àëåêñàíäðà Òðîôèìîâíà è ïðàáàáóøêà Ñîôèÿ Ëóêèíèøíà ïðèåõàëè â Àâñòðàëèþ Ïàïà ãîâîðèò, ÷òî îíè èìåëè ñîáñòâåííîñòü è äîì â Õàí÷æîó, çàòåì æèëè â Øàíõàå Ïàïà ó÷èëñÿ â íåñêîëüêèõ øêîëàõ, è áûë èñêëþ÷åí èç ðóññêîé êîììóíèñòè÷åñêîé øêîëû çà ðèñóíîê öåðêâè Îí ïîìíèò , êàê îíè ñîáèðàëè ðàêóøêè íà óëèöàõ âî âðåìÿ Âòîðîé ìèðîâîé âîéíû è êèòàéñêèõ ñëóã è êàê ó÷èëèñü ãîòîâèòü êèòàéñêóþ åäó Îí ãîâîðèò, ÷òî îí âûðîñ â îðêåñòðîâîé ÿìå îïåðíîãî òåàòðà, ãäå ñëóæèëè Êëàâäèÿ, Ãîøà è Ñîôèÿ. Îí æèë ñ Êëàâäèåé íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ è ãîâîðèò, ÷òî îíà áûëà íåîáûêíîâåííîé êðàñîòû, âñÿ â ìåõàõ è øàìïàíñêîì . Ìîåìó îòöó áûëî âñåãî îêîëî 11 ëåò, êîãäà îíè ïîêèíóëè Êèòàé, íî òàê ìíîãî êðàñî÷íûõ âîñïîìèíàíèé î áóðíîì òîì âðåìåíè. Î, ÿ çàáûëà: îòåö ñêàçàë, ÷òî ìîé äåä Êîíñòàíòèí áûë æåíàò íåñêîëüêî ðàç ïîñëå òîãî, êàê åãî æåíà Àííû îñòàâèëà èõ. Âîçìîæíî, áûë è äðóãîé ðåáåíîê ìóæñêîãî ïîëà, ðîäèâøèéñÿ â Øàíõàå â 1940-õ.... Òàê ÷òî , âîçìîæíî, ó ìåíÿ åñòü äÿäÿ â Êèòàå èëè Àìåðèêå! Äåä ïðèâåç îäíó æåíó â Àâñòðàëèþ ïî èìåíè Àëåêñàíäðà è åå ñûíà Ñåðãåÿ Ïîèñêîâàÿ òåìà annushkasempire çäåñü https://forum.vgd.ru/33/66366/0.htm?a=stdforum_view&o= |
| Gul Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà Ñîîáùåíèé: 12560 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 42730 | annushkasempire State Archives of Khabarovsk Territory Bureau of Russian emigrants in the Manchurian Empire (ARV) Personal affairs Ñèòíèêîâ Êîíñòàíòèí Òðîôèìîâè÷ 1935-1948 19 Ñèòíèêîâ Âèêòîð Òðîôèìîâè÷ 1936-1949 8 Ñèòíèêîâ Òðîôèì Àíäðèàíîâè÷ 1935-1943 11 Ñèòíèêîâà - Ñàâðàñîâà Àëåêñàíäðà Òðîôèìîâíà 1935-1937 7 Ñèòíèêîâà Êëàâäèÿ Òðîôèìîâíà 1935-1938 6 http://archive.khabkrai.ru/brem/?q=209&p=22 ??? Ðîòò Çîëòàí Ôðàíöåâè÷ 1937-1949 16 Ðîòò Ìàðòèí 1942-1949 2 http://archive.khabkrai.ru/brem/?q=208&p=10 You can order a copy of the archive personal files and learn a lot |
| Jerzy Ñîîáùåíèé: 505 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2012 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 345 | ßïîíñêèå àýðîôîòî Õàðáèíà ÷. 1 [ Èçîáðàæåíèå íà ñòîðîííåì ñàéòå: 821e26218148.jpg ] Ñîáîðíàÿ ïëîùàäü – ïåðâûé ñ ëåâà Áîëüøîé ïðîñïåêò, âûæå Ìàíü÷æóðñêèé ïðîñïåêò, Ìîñêîâñêèå Ðÿäû, Õîðâàòîâñêèé Ïðîñïåêò (ïðåæäå Âîêçàëüíûé Ïðîñïåêò), Íèêîëàåâñêèé ïåðåóëîê. Äîìà â ïðàâîì óãëó ñíèìêè ñòîèò ïðè Ïî÷òîâîé óëèöå Ðåàëüíîå ó÷èëèùå [ Èçîáðàæåíèå íà ñòîðîííåì ñàéòå: 7dccf63bc285.jpg ] Âèä ñîáîðà è Ìîñêîâñêèõ Òîðãîâûõ Ðÿäîâ ñ êðûøû ãîñòèíèöû «Íþ Õàðáèí» [ Èçîáðàæåíèå íà ñòîðîííåì ñàéòå: d3b942e8efcb.jpg ] Òðàìâàéíàÿ îñòàíîâêà íà Ñîáîðíîé ïëîùàäè [ Èçîáðàæåíèå íà ñòîðîííåì ñàéòå: 27057c6e059e.jpg ] Ìîñêîâñêèå Òîðãîâûå Ðÿäû, Õîðâàòîâñêèé Ïðîñïåêò, âèäíû òðàìâàéíûå ðåëüñû [ Èçîáðàæåíèå íà ñòîðîííåì ñàéòå: e234312d55f1.jpg ] Ôðàãìåíò ÿïîíñêîé êàðòû Õàðáèíà 1939 ãîäà ñ Ñîáîðíîé ïëîùàäüèþ |
| Gul Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà Ñîîáùåíèé: 12560 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 42730 | Jerzy íàïèñàë: Ñîáîðíàÿ ïëîùàäü 1904 ãîä, Õàðáèí. Ìîëåáåí íà Ñîáîðíîé ïëîùàäè ïåðåä îòïðàâêîé âîéñê íà âîéíó ñ ÿïîíöàìè Cíèìîê, î÷åâèäíî, ñäåëàí ñ êîëîêîëüíè Ñâÿòî-Íèêîëàåâñêîãî ñîáîðà ![]()  íà÷àëå 1922 íåáîëüøàÿ ãðóïïà õàðáèíñêîé èíòåëëèãåíöèè ó÷ðåäèëî Îáùåñòâî èçó÷åíèÿ Ìàíü÷æóðñêîãî êðàÿ (ÎÈÌÊ). Îñíîâàòåëÿìè ÎÈÌÊ ïîìèìî ðóññêèõ èññëåäîâàòåëåé Ï. Í. Ìåíüøèêîâà, Ý. Ý. Àíåðòà, À. Â. Ñïèöûíà, Á. Â. Ñêâîðöîâà, Ï. Â. Øêóðêèíà è äðóãèõ áûëî íåìàëî êèòàéöåâ Îáùåñòâó áûëî ïåðåäàíî çäàíèå â Íîâîì Ãîðîäå â Ìîñêîâñêèõ Òîðãîâûõ ðÿäàõ, ¹11. Çäåñü â 1923 áûë îòêðûò Ìóçåé ÎÈÌÊ, âêëþ÷àþùèé îòäåëû ýòíîãðàôèè, òîðãîâî-ïðîìûøëåííûé, åñòåñòâåííûé, èñêóññòâ. ![]() ![]() |
| annushkasempire Ñîîáùåíèé: 127 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 44 | there are so many cemeteries in Chelyabinsk. Which one should I search for Sofia L grave in? |
| annushkasempire Ñîîáùåíèé: 127 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 44 | Gul íàïèñàë: Thank you. Yes she certainly was. Her Mother Klaudia was of equal beauty |
| Gul Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà Ñîîáùåíèé: 12560 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 42730 | annushkasempire íàïèñàë: there are so many cemeteries in Chelyabinsk. Which one should I search for Sofia L grave in? ÒÀÐÀÍÎÂÑÊÀß Ñîôüÿ Ëåîíèäîâíà (1923-1998) áàëåðèíà, çàñëóæåííàÿ àðòèñòêà ÐÑÔÑÐ, Ãðàäñêîå êëàäáèùå, êâàðòàë 15-2 Gradskoe Cemetery, place 15-2 Åncyclopedia Âallet http://dancelib.ru/baletenc/it...ndex.shtml |
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