ÄÍÊ-ãåíåàëîãèÿ
Ãåíåòè÷åñêèå ìåòîäû ðåêîíñòðóêöèè ðîäîñëîâíîãî äåðåâà
Genesis Åêàòåðèíáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 657 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 608 | Íàâåðõ ##
19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 19:11 Òàê ðåçóëüòàòîâ ñòîëüêî, ÷òî ãëàçà ðàçáåãàþòñÿ è ðóêè ÷åøóòñÿ.... òî õî÷åòñÿ óäàðèòü ñåáÿ â ëîá çà ãëóïîñòü è òóïîñòü, à òî êîìó-íèáóäü èç àâòîðîâ ñòàòåé â ãëàç çà "íàó÷íîñòü"  Ëåã÷å ãîâîðèòü î ÷¸ì-òî êîíêðåòíîì, à äëÿ ìåíÿ êîíêðåòíîå âîçíèêíåò òîëüêî ïîñëå èòîãîâ òåñòà FTDNA. Ïîêà òîëüêî 17 ìàðê¸ðîâ Ãåíòèñà: R1a1a, è Ìò-ãàïëîãðóïïà H. ---
Ñîðî÷èíñê, Áóçóëóê, Åëõîâêà Ñàìàðñêèé óåçä, Ñèçåíîâî ×åðíñêèé óåçä, Ñàìîéëîâêà Áàëàøîâñêèé óåçä | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 220
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 104
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20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 9:19 21 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 9:53 Genesis íàïèñàë: [q] À ïî÷åìó îñòîðîæíî?
Íàïèñàíî äîñòàòî÷íî ïîïóëÿðíî è äîõîä÷èâî, õîòÿ ñ íàó÷íîé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ îöåíèòü íå ìîãó, [/q]
Íó Áóøêîâ ïðèìåðíî òàê æå ëåãêî è äîõîä÷èâî ïèøåò íà èñòîðè÷åñêèå òåìû. Ýòî íå ìåøàåò åìó áûòü ôðèêîì. Íå õî÷åòñÿ âíèêàòü â äåòàëè, âñå æå íå ïðîôèëüíûé ôîðóì, íî â ñëó÷àå ñ Êëåñîâûì ãëàâíîå ÷åòêî ïîíÿòü ãäå çàêàí÷èâàåòñÿ âñòóïèòåëüíàÿ ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ ÷àñòü(ñîãëàñåí ñ âàìè, íàïèñàííàÿ äîñòàòî÷íî äîõîä÷èâî è èíòåðåñíî) è íà÷èíàåòñÿ ñîáñòâåííî ôðè÷åñòâî. ---
ÑÖÑ Âåñüåãîíñêîãî (Ïíåâî, Õàáîöêîå, Äåëåäèíî, ×àìåðîâî), Áåæåöêîãî ( Õîíååâî, Ëþáîäèöû), Òâåðñêîãî (Îòðîêîâè÷è), Íîâîòîðîæñêîãî ( Òàëîæíÿ, Èëüèíñêîå ÷òî ïîä Âûøêîâîì), Ñòàðèöêîãî(Õîëìåö)
Îäíîäâîðöû Êóðñêîãî óåçäà(Âîðîáüåâêà, Ñåìåíîâêà) | | |
LeslaÌîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà R1a-VK05  Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 2544 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2339 | Íàâåðõ ##
20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 16:41 20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 18:50 Íå áóäåì íà ÂÃÄ î ïîñòîðîííèõ ñêëîêàõ. --- Ìîé êàíàë â Òåëåãðàììå, ãäå ðàññêàçûâàþ î ïðèìåíåíèè ìåòîäîâ ÄÍÊ-òåñòèðîâàíèÿ â ãåíåàëîãèè.
Èùó æèòåëåé è ïîòîìêîâ æèòåëåé ää. Ðó÷üåâàÿ Äåäîâè÷åñêîãî è Äóáêè Áåæàíèöêîãî ðàéîíîâ Ïñêîâñêîé îáë. | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 220
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 104
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20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 17:28 21 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 9:55 Íî âñå æå î ÷åì ðå÷ü, íóæíî ñêàçàòü, ÷òîáû õîòü ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî áûëî ïîíÿòíî .
Èç îäíîãî èíòåðâüþ Êëåñîâà:
"Çàïëàíèðîâàííîãî ìíîãî, æèçíè òî÷íî íå õâàòèò. Ëåæèò íåèçäàííàÿ êíèãà «Ïðîèñõîæäåíèå ñëàâÿí è äðóãèõ íàðîäîâ – î÷åðêè ÄÍÊ-ãåíåàëîãèè» â 600 ñòðàíèö, ðóêè íå äîõîäÿò åå êóäà-íèáóäü íàïðàâèòü. Îñåíüþ áóäåò íàïèñàíà êíèãà î ïðîèñõîæäåíèè åâðîïåîèäîâ è èõ ïðåäêîâ â Àçèè.  ìåæäóíàðîäíîì æóðíàëå «Óñïåõè àíòðîïîëîãèè» æäóò ñåðèþ ñòàòåé ïî ïðîèñõîæäåíèþ «ñîâðåìåííîãî ÷åëîâåêà», êîòîðûé íà ñàìîì äåëå ïðîèçîøåë âîâñå íå â Àôðèêå, è ýòî òîæå ïîêàçàëà ÄÍÊ-ãåíåàëîãèÿ." ---
ÑÖÑ Âåñüåãîíñêîãî (Ïíåâî, Õàáîöêîå, Äåëåäèíî, ×àìåðîâî), Áåæåöêîãî ( Õîíååâî, Ëþáîäèöû), Òâåðñêîãî (Îòðîêîâè÷è), Íîâîòîðîæñêîãî ( Òàëîæíÿ, Èëüèíñêîå ÷òî ïîä Âûøêîâîì), Ñòàðèöêîãî(Õîëìåö)
Îäíîäâîðöû Êóðñêîãî óåçäà(Âîðîáüåâêà, Ñåìåíîâêà) | | |
GenesisÅêàòåðèíáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 657 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 608 | Íàâåðõ ##
20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 18:47 Âñ¸.... íå ëåçó â "ñêîëüçêèå" âîïðîñû, ïîêà ñàì õîòü â ÷¸ì-òî íå ðàçáåðóñü ---
Ñîðî÷èíñê, Áóçóëóê, Åëõîâêà Ñàìàðñêèé óåçä, Ñèçåíîâî ×åðíñêèé óåçä, Ñàìîéëîâêà Áàëàøîâñêèé óåçä | | |
LeslaÌîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà R1a-VK05 Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 2544 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2339 | Íàâåðõ ##
26 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 23:36  Ôåéñáóêå ïðîøëà î÷åðåäíàÿ àêöèÿ ó ÔÒÄÍÀ - îíè íàñîáèðàëè 15000 "ëàåê" - http://www.FB [çàïðåùåí â ÐÔ]/FamilyTreeDNA ñâÿçè ñ ýòèì ó ÔÒÄÍÀ 36 ÷àñîâûå ñêèäêè ïðè çàêàçå íîâûõ êèòîâ è âñòóïëåíèå â êàêîé-ëèáî ïðîåêò. È íåáîëüøèå ñêèäêè ïðè àïãðåéäå. Thank you for helping us reach 15,000 LIKES on our Facebook page! To show how much we like you too, we're offering a 36-HOUR SALE! START: Monday, September 26 (TODAY) at 12:00pm CDT
END: Tuesday, September 27 at 11:59pm CDT For NEW customers: Y-DNA 12 . . . $59 (was $99) mtDNA . . . $59 (was $99) Y-DNA 37 . . . $129 (was $149) Family Finder . . . $199 (was $289) mtFullSequence (FGS) . . . $229 (was $299) Y-DNA 12 + mtDNA . . . $118 (was $179) Family Finder + Y-DNA 12 . . . $248 (was $339) Family Finder + mtDNA . . . $248 (was $339) Family Finder + Y-DNA 37 . . . $328 (was $438) Family Finder + mtFullSequence . . . $398 (was $559) Comprehensive Genome (Family Finder + mtFullSequence + Y-DNA67) . . . $597 (was $797) Upgrades & Add-Ons: mtDNA add-on $59 . . . (was $89) mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR1 to Mega) . . . $199 (was $269) mtFullSequence upgrade (HVR2 to Mega) . . . $199 (was $239) mtFullSequence add-on . . . $219 (was $289) Family Finder add-on . . . $199 (was $289) --- Ìîé êàíàë â Òåëåãðàììå, ãäå ðàññêàçûâàþ î ïðèìåíåíèè ìåòîäîâ ÄÍÊ-òåñòèðîâàíèÿ â ãåíåàëîãèè.
Èùó æèòåëåé è ïîòîìêîâ æèòåëåé ää. Ðó÷üåâàÿ Äåäîâè÷åñêîãî è Äóáêè Áåæàíèöêîãî ðàéîíîâ Ïñêîâñêîé îáë. | | |
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Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7047
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4362
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30 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 11:41 Genesis íàïèñàë: [q] Âñ¸.... íå ëåçó â "ñêîëüçêèå" âîïðîñû, ïîêà ñàì õîòü â ÷¸ì-òî íå ðàçáåðóñ[/q]
Âîò çäåñü ìíîãî ðàçíûõ ññûëîê - íî, ïîõîæå, íå ñòîëüêî ïðî òåñòèðîâàíèå, ñêîëüêî ïðî áîëåå ôóíäàìåíòàëüíûå âåùè ---
Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
GenesisÅêàòåðèíáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 657 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 608 | Íàâåðõ ##
30 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 17:11 kbg_dnepr íàïèñàë: [q] Âîò çäåñü ìíîãî ðàçíûõ ññûëîê [/q]
Ïðîñòèòå, à ÇÄÅÑÜ - ýòî ãäå? ---
Ñîðî÷èíñê, Áóçóëóê, Åëõîâêà Ñàìàðñêèé óåçä, Ñèçåíîâî ×åðíñêèé óåçä, Ñàìîéëîâêà Áàëàøîâñêèé óåçä | | |
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Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7047
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4362
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17 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 17:07 ---
Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7047
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4362
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18 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 17:14 18 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 17:15 BalymbaÂîïðîñ çàäàí çäåñü: https://forum.vgd.ru/527/DNA_test/#lastÀ êîãî âêëþ÷àþò áàçû ðîññèéñêèõ èññëåäîâàíèé? Èìååòñÿ ââèäó - áóäåò ëè òîëê ñ òàêèõ òåñòîâ, åñëè ïðåäïîëàãàþòñÿ êîðíè â Çàïàäíîé è Öåíòðàëüíîé Åâðîïå. Íàèáîëåå àâòîðèòåòíûå öåíòðû òåñòèðîâàíèÿ - 23andMe è Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). Îáà íàõîäÿòñÿ â Àìåðèêå. Íàèáîëüøàÿ áàçà äàííûõ íà 23andMe. Ñóùåñòâóþò ìíîãî ïîðòàëîâ, íà êîòîðûõ ìîæíî ñðàâíèòü äàííûå èç ðàçíûõ áàç, íàèáîëüøèé - Gedmatch. Åäèíñòâåííûé âàðèàíò â Ðîññèè - Ãåíòèñ â Ìîñêâå. Ýòî ôèëèàë ÔÒÄÍÀ, òîëüêî ïîõèëåå. À âîîáùå âñå ýòî íå èìååò çíà÷åíèÿ, èìååò çíà÷åíèå òîëüêî öåëü òåñòà. Ïîñëå åå îïðåäåëåíèÿ îáû÷íî àëüòåðíàòèâ íå îñòàåòñÿ (íó èëè îñòàåòñÿ Î×ÅÍÜ ìàëî). ---
Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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