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òàê âîò åñëè ó íå¸ ÿ õî÷ó ôåìèëè ôèíäåò è ìòäíê, òî ìíå îò íå¸ òîæå íóæíî 2 ïðîáèðêè, òàê??...

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ïîÿñíþ - îäèí çàêàç, à â íåì 2 òåñòà - ôåìèëè ôèíäåð è Ó- ÄÍÊ

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Òîãäà ýòî îäèí êèò (íàáîð) è íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ èç íåãî íà äâóõ ïåðñîí ðàçäåëèòü.
Èëè ïåðåäåëûâàòü çàêàç ïîëíîñòüþ íà äðóãîãî (íî ýòî ïî äåíüãàì ðàçíèöà ïîëó÷èòñÿ, ñëîæíî âñå áóäåò).
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âòîðîé òåñò çàêàæó äëÿ Æ, ÷òîá íå îáùàòüñÿ ñî ñëóæáàìè è íå ìîðî÷èòü ãîëîâó ñ äåíüãàìè

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òàê âîò åñëè ó íå¸ ÿ õî÷ó ôåìèëè ôèíäåò è ìòäíê, òî ìíå îò íå¸ òîæå íóæíî 2 ïðîáèðêè, òàê??...

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Ñîäåðæàíèå íàáîðà îäèíàêîâî äëÿ ëþáûõ âèäîâ çàêàçîâ - äâå ïðîáèðêè, ÷òîáû ãåíåòè÷åñêîãî ìàòåðèàëà õâàòèëî íà áóäóùèå àïãðåéäû.
Äâå ïðîáèðêè=îäèí íàáîð (êèò)=îäèí çàêàç(íåâàæíî êîëè÷åñòâî ðàçíûõ òåñòîâ â íåì)=îäíà ñâÿçêà ëîãèí-ïàðîëü. Ýòè äâå ïðîáèðêè ìîæíî "ïîòðàòèòü" ëèøü íà îäíîãî ÷åëîâåêà.

Çà íåñêîëüêî ëåò ìîåãî ïðåáûâàíèÿ íà 23ýíäìè âïåðâûå íàøåëñÿ ÷åëîâåê ñ òîé æå mtDNA Haplogroup, ÷òî è ó ìåíÿ - U5a1d2a

Ïî àóòîñîìíûì ìàðêåðàì íà ñàéòå ó íàñ ñîâïàäåíèé íåò
Ïî ëèíèè åãî ìàìû - (èììèãðàíòû â ÑØà â ñåðåäèíå 19 âåêà) - Ðîññèÿ è Ïîëüøà. Áîëüøå îí íè÷åãî íå çíàåò.

Ïî ìîåé ÷èñòî æåíñêîé ëèíèè - ñàìàÿ ðàííÿÿ - ðîæäåíèÿ ñåðåäèíû 18 âåêà - çàïàäíîå Ïîäìîñêîâüå (ïîä Ðóçîé).

Âîïðîñ: êîãäà âîçíèêëà ýòà ãàïïëîãðóïïà (åå âàðèàíò) - U5a1d2a
Ïðî íàøëà U5b1b íà 23ýíäìè:
Haplogroup U5 arose among early colonizers of Europe around 40,000 years ago; maternal descendants of those early colonizers persist in the region to this day. After the last Ice Age two subgroups of U5 expanded across Europe and into northern Africa and the Near East. Today, one subgroup, U5b1b, is shared by groups as diverse as the northern African desert-dwelling Berbers and the Scandinavian Arctic-dwelling Saami, also known as the Lapps.

Íà ñàéòå http://www.anthrogenica.com/sh...ect-update :
U5a1c is mostly found in eastern Europe and Russia. U5a1d is in Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Russia, Belorus, a Buryat, a Tatar and a sample from northeastern Altai.

And these that could be U5a1d2a:
Scytho-Siberian Pazyryk culture Mongolia Olon-Kurin-Gol Valley cemetery 400-200 BC U5a1 16086C, 16189C, 16192T, 16256T, 16270T, 16304C, 16399G, 00073G, +12308 HinfI. Pilipenko 2010
Scytho-Siberian Pazyryk culture Altai Republic Verkh-Kaldzhin II U5a1 16192T, 16256T, 16270T, 16304C Pilipenko 2010 from Molodin 200
which is found in a Tatar and in the NE Altai in the two available present day samples.
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Íà Âèêèïåäèè -
Haplogroup U5a1d2a
Possible time of origin 700 to 6200 Years Before Present (Behar 2012b)
Possible place of origin ---
Ancestor ----
Defining mutations (Bahar & Family Tree DNA 2012)

Òàê ÷òî - âîïðîñû ê çíàòîêàì:
1. Ïî÷åìó èç ñîòåí òûñÿ÷ òåñòîâ íà 23ýíäìè ýòà ãàïïëîãðóïïà íàøëàñü òîëüêî ó 2-õ - ó ìåíÿ (íó, íå ñ÷èòàÿ ìîèõ ïðîòåñòèðîâàííûõ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ ïî æåíñêîé ëèíèè, åñòåñòâåíî) è åùå òîëüêî îäíîãî ÷åëîâåêà?

2. Êîãäà îáðàçîâàëàñü ýòà "ïîäãàïïëîãðóïïà"?

3. ×òî î íåé ìîæíî ñêàçàòü?

ïåíåëîïà íàïèñàë:

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ðàâíîìåðíî ðàçìàçàíû îò Èñïàíèè äî Óðàëà. Äàæå ïîëíîå ñîâïàäåíèå ïîëíîãî ìèòîñèêâåíñà ìîæåò îçíà÷àòü, ÷òî îáùèé ïðåäîê æèë 3 - 4 òûñ. ëåò íàçàä, è áîëüøå.

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U5a1
nmash íàïèñàë:

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Çà íåñêîëüêî ëåò ìîåãî ïðåáûâàíèÿ íà 23ýíäìè âïåðâûå íàøåëñÿ ÷åëîâåê ñ òîé æå mtDNA Haplogroup, ÷òî è ó ìåíÿ - U5a1d2a

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Èçâèíèòå, ñîâñåì íåïîíÿëà ãäå Âû ñìîòðèòå?
ß âèæó òîëüêî U5a1 è âàñ ñ äðóãèìè â ðàìî÷êå

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