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ÄÈÀËÎÃÎÂÀß òåìà (Âîïðîñû/îòâåòû)
idylleÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà ×àñòíûé ñïåöèàëèñòÑàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 3494 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2017 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2545 | Ââåðõ #27 îêòÿáðÿ 2019 20:52 Cordia íàïèñàë: [q] Õî÷åòñÿ âåðèòü â ÷óäåñà)) [/q]
Î÷åíü Âàñ ïîíèìàþ) | | |
KrautÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ìîñêâà-Ñàìàðà Ñîîáùåíèé: 5386 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3160 | Ââåðõ #27 îêòÿáðÿ 2019 21:46 svet11 íàïèñàë: [q] Ãðàíèöû ìåæäó ãóáåðíèÿìè ìåíÿëèñü. Íàïðèìåð, ìåæäó Ñàìàðñêîé è Îðåíáóðãñêîé. Ó ìåíÿ àíàëîãè÷íûé âîïðîñ ïî ã. Áóçóëóêó. Ñåé÷àñ Áóçóëóê îòíîñèòñÿ ê Îðåíáóðãñêîé îáëàñòè. Ãðàíèöû ïîìåíÿëèñü â 1934 ãîäó, à äî ýòîãî ãîðîä îòíîñèëñÿ ê Ñàìàðñêîé ãóáåðíèè è Ñðåäíåâîëæñêîé îáëàñòè. Ïîëàãàþ, ÷òî äîêóìåíòû ìîãóò áûòü è â Ñàìàðñêîì, è Îðåíáóðãñêîì àðõèâàõ. Èëè ñêîðåå â Ñàìàðñêîì?[/q]
Ñàìàðñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ ìîëîäàÿ, îáðàçîâàíà èç òðåõ. Îðåíáóðãñêàÿ è Ñàìàðñêàÿ äîëãîå âðåìÿ áûëè â îäíîì ãåíåðàë-ãóáåðíàòîðñòâå, ìíîãèå äîêóìåíòû â Îðåíáóðãå. Îðåíáóðã äîëãîå âðåìÿ áûë ïîä÷èíåí Óôå, äîêóìåíòû òàì åñòü, äî ýòîãî Êàçàíè, äîêóìåíòû òàì åñòü. --- Êóçíåöîâû (Ñàìàðñêàÿ ä.ÍîâîÇàïðóäíîå, ñ. Ëèïîâêà, ñ. Äìèòðèåâêà, ä. Íîâàÿ Ïîëÿíà (Ëîïàòèíî). Ñêîïîâû (Âîðîíåæñêàÿ -- ñ. Ïåñêè, ä. Ìàçóðêà, ä. Ìàðüåâêà Áàé÷óðîâî òîæ) Êðåòèíèíû (èíòåðåñíû âñå, Âîðîíåæñêàÿ îáë., Óêðàèíà - ã. Çàïîðîæüå, Êàçàõñòàí)
Ïóãèíû,Áî | | |
| svet11 Ó÷àñòíèê
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 101 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 54 | Ââåðõ #27 îêòÿáðÿ 2019 22:07 27 îêòÿáðÿ 2019 22:08 maxmalk íàïèñàë: [q] Ïî Áóçóëóêó ìíîãî åñòü â Ñàìàðñêîì àðõèâå è âûëîæåíî íà ñàéòå ó ìîðìîíîâ [/q]
Kraut íàïèñàë: [q] ìíîãèå äîêóìåíòû â Îðåíáóðãå. Îðåíáóðã äîëãîå âðåìÿ áûë ïîä÷èíåí Óôå, äîêóìåíòû òàì åñòü, äî ýòîãî Êàçàíè, äîêóìåíòû òàì åñòü. [/q]
Âñå, îêàçûâàåòñÿ, åùå ñëîæíåå... Áëàãîäàðþ çà ïîäñêàçêè. --- Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î Ðåçóíåíêî (Õàðüêîâñêàÿ ãóá.), Ïóõîâûõ (Ñìîëåíñêàÿ ãóá., ÑÏá), Ñòðåëêîâûõ (ã.Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã), Ñêâîðöîâûõ (ßðîñëàâñêàÿ ãóá., ÑÏá), Ëàðèîíîâûõ (ã.Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã), Ãåëüöåð (ã.Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã) | | |
Atkara-EVÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Î÷åíü ñðåäíåå Ïîâîëæüå Ñîîáùåíèé: 6146 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 9003 | Ââåðõ #27 îêòÿáðÿ 2019 22:17 CordiaCordia íàïèñàë: [q] Íó íàïðèìåð òàê: çàäàåøü âîïðîñ, à òåáå îòâå÷àþò: èùèòå âîò òàì, òàì ìíîãî. Íà÷èíàåøü èñêàòü ãäå ïîñîâåòîâàëè è îòêðûâàåøü äëÿ ñåáÿ òî, ÷åãî ðàíüøå â óïîð íå âèäåë. Êîíå÷íî åñòü íàäåæäà ÷òî èñêîìîå óæå îöèôðîâàíî, ïðîñòî íóæíî âíèìàòåëüíåé èñêàòü.
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ÌÊ Êàçàíñêîé öåðêâè ñåëà Ìîêðàÿ Îëüõîâêà õðàíÿòñÿ â ÃÀÂÎ â Âîëãîãðàäå. Îíè íå îöèôðîâàíû. Ôîíä 339, îïèñü íå ïîìíþ. --- Äâîðÿíñòâî è ñâÿùåííîñëóæèòåëè Ñàðàòîâñêîé ãóáåðíèè. Àòêàðñêèé óåçä - èñòîðèÿ, ãåíåàëîãèÿ. | | |
| Cordia Íîâè÷îê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 8 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2019 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 4 | Ââåðõ #27 îêòÿáðÿ 2019 22:29 Atkara-EV íàïèñàë: [q] ÌÊ Êàçàíñêîé öåðêâè ñåëà Ìîêðàÿ Îëüõîâêà õðàíÿòñÿ â ÃÀÂÎ â Âîëãîãðàäå. Îíè íå îöèôðîâàíû. Ôîíä 339, îïèñü íå ïîìíþ.
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Áëàãîäàðþ! ß ñâÿçàëàñü óæå ñ ÷åëîâåêîì, êîòîðûé ðàáîòàåò ïî ýòîìó àðõèâó. Äåéñòâèòåëüíî ôîíä 339. | | Ëàéê (1) |
| Pavel3233 Íîâè÷îê
Áîñòîí Ñîîáùåíèé: 6 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2019 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1 | Ââåðõ #10 íîÿáðÿ 2019 19:43 Hello everyone,
I am an American of Russian ancestry. I know my family tree going back several centuries. My ancestors were landowners and Russian army officers. I have the name, rank, and biographical information (regiments, battles, dates of service, rank, etc) of 15 or so male ancestors. This month, I am living in Moscow. I want to research the catalogue at Russian State Military Historical Archive, but I don't know the protocol for entering this building. When I went there last summer, I was stopped by a security at the front desk, and she didn't speak English.
Can someone explain to me, how to I access Russian State Military Historical Archive? Do I have to call them first, or anyone enter the premises themselves? I can read basic Russian, but can't speak the language.
Very Gratefully, Pavel
Ïðèâåò âñåì,
ß àìåðèêàíåö ðóññêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ. ß çíàþ, ÷òî ìîå ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîå äðåâî íàñ÷èòûâàåò íåñêîëüêî âåêîâ. Ìîèìè ïðåäêàìè áûëè ïîìåùèêè è îôèöåðû ðóññêîé àðìèè. Ó ìåíÿ åñòü èìÿ, çâàíèå è áèîãðàôè÷åñêàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ (ïîëêè, ñðàæåíèÿ, äàòû ñëóæáû, çâàíèå è ò. Ä.) Ïðèìåðíî 15-òè ïðåäêîâ ìóæñêîãî ïîëà.  ýòîì ìåñÿöå ÿ æèâó â Ìîñêâå. ß õî÷ó èçó÷èòü êàòàëîã â Ðîññèéñêîì ãîñóäàðñòâåííîì âîåííî-èñòîðè÷åñêîì àðõèâå, íî ÿ íå çíàþ ïðîòîêîë äëÿ âõîäà â ýòî çäàíèå. Êîãäà ÿ ïðèåõàë òóäà ïðîøëûì ëåòîì, ìåíÿ îñòàíîâèë îõðàííèê íà ñòîéêå ðåãèñòðàöèè, è îíà íå ãîâîðèëà ïî-àíãëèéñêè.
Ìîæåò êòî-íèáóäü îáúÿñíèòü ìíå, êàê ïîëó÷èòü äîñòóï ê Ðîññèéñêîìó ãîñóäàðñòâåííîìó âîåííî-èñòîðè÷åñêîìó àðõèâó? Äîëæåí ëè ÿ ñíà÷àëà ïîçâîíèòü èì èëè êòî-íèáóäü ñàì âîéäåò â ïîìåùåíèå? ß ìîãó ÷èòàòü ïî-ðóññêè, íî íå ìîãó ãîâîðèòü íà ýòîì ÿçûêå.
áëàãîäàðíî, Ïàâåë | | |
| Maksim Andreevich Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 10098 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 5188 | Ââåðõ #10 íîÿáðÿ 2019 20:01 Pavel3233 íàïèñàë: [q] ß ìîãó ÷èòàòü ïî-ðóññêè, íî íå ìîãó ãîâîðèòü íà ýòîì ÿçûêå.[/q]
Ðóêîïèñíûé äîðåâîëþöèîííûé òåêñò ñìîæåòå ïðî÷èòàòü? À ïèñàòü ïî-ðóññêè óìååòå? | | |
| Pavel3233 Íîâè÷îê
Áîñòîí Ñîîáùåíèé: 6 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2019 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1 | Ââåðõ #11 íîÿáðÿ 2019 13:07 Maksim Andreevich íàïèñàë: [q] [/q]
I can read Cyrillic, I can read names, dates, names of regiments, and battles.My Russian vocabulary is about 800 words, and I know simple tenses. I can translate Russian using dictionaries. I've already seen RGVIA biographies of some ancestors.I can write in simple Russian (present tense). Be aware that I know the full names birth dates, and death dates of all my military ancestors. I know their military ranks too. No problem there. What I need is for someone here to tell me the protocol for a foreign to enter RGVIA. Do I have to arrange a registration with them? Does RGVIA need to give me special permission? Who do I call? Also, I am told that RGVIA has a large library card catalogue in which visitors can look up family names. Is this true? If I can get the answers to these questions, I can proceed. Thanks. ß ìîãó ÷èòàòü êèðèëëèöó, ÿ ìîãó ÷èòàòü èìåíà, äàòû, íàçâàíèÿ ïîëêîâ è ñðàæåíèÿ. Ìîé ðóññêèé ñëîâàðíûé çàïàñ ñîñòàâëÿåò îêîëî 800 ñëîâ, è ÿ çíàþ ïðîñòûå âðåìåíà. ß ìîãó ïåðåâåñòè ðóññêèé ÿçûê ñ ïîìîùüþ ñëîâàðåé. ß óæå âèäåë áèîãðàôèè RGVIA íåêîòîðûõ ïðåäêîâ. ß ìîãó ïèñàòü íà ïðîñòîì ðóññêîì ÿçûêå (íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ). Çíàéòå, ÷òî ÿ çíàþ ïîëíûå èìåíà äàòû ðîæäåíèÿ è ñìåðòè âñåõ ìîèõ âîåííûõ ïðåäêîâ. ß òîæå çíàþ èõ âîèíñêèå çâàíèÿ. Íåò ïðîáëåì òàì. Ìíå íóæíî, ÷òîáû êòî-òî çäåñü ñêàçàë ìíå ïðîòîêîë äëÿ èíîñòðàíöà, ÷òîáû âîéòè â RGVIA. Äîëæåí ëè ÿ îðãàíèçîâàòü ðåãèñòðàöèþ ó íèõ? Íóæíî ëè RGVIA äàòü ìíå ñïåöèàëüíîå ðàçðåøåíèå? Êîìó ÿ çâîíþ? Êðîìå òîãî, ìíå ñêàçàëè, ÷òî RGVIA èìååò áîëüøîé êàòàëîã áèáëèîòå÷íûõ êàðòî÷åê, â êîòîðîì ïîñåòèòåëè ìîãóò èñêàòü ôàìèëèè. Ýòî ïðàâäà? Åñëè ÿ ñìîãó ïîëó÷èòü îòâåòû íà ýòè âîïðîñû, ÿ ñìîãó ïðîäîëæèòü. Áëàãîäàðþ. | | |
Ëþá÷èíîâàÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà Îëüãà, èíæåíåð-ñòðîèòåëü íà ïåíñèè  Îìñê Ñîîáùåíèé: 18182 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 9162 | Ââåðõ #11 íîÿáðÿ 2019 13:43 11 íîÿáðÿ 2019 13:49 Pavel3233 íàïèñàë: [q] RGVIA èìååò áîëüøîé êàòàëîã áèáëèîòå÷íûõ êàðòî÷åê, â êîòîðîì ïîñåòèòåëè ìîãóò èñêàòü ôàìèëèè. Ýòî ïðàâäà?[/q]
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| Maksim Andreevich Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 10098 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 5188 | Ââåðõ #11 íîÿáðÿ 2019 13:50 Íèêàêèõ îãðàíè÷åíèé äëÿ èíîñòðàíöåâ â ýòîì àðõèâå áûòü íå äîëæíî. Ìàêñèìóì ìîãóò ïîïðîñèòü ïåðåâîä íà ðóññêèé ÿçûê äîêóìåíòà, óäîñòîâåðÿþùåãî ëè÷íîñòü. Íî ýòî ëó÷øå âñå óçíàòü, íàïèñàâ â àðõèâ. | | |
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