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Ïðîñèì ïîèñêàòü çà íàñ â àðõèâå çäåñü: https://forum.vgd.ru/45/21876/

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Rita Ruff
Íîâè÷îê

Chicago, IL, USA
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 3
chalyshev3340

ß èñïîëüçóþ Google Translate. Ñïàñèáî çà ïîíèìàíèå.

ß ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ. Ìîå ñîîáùåíèå íå áûëî òî÷íûì.

Ñïàñèáî çà ññûëêó "Èíôîðìàöèÿ èç Êíèãè Ïàìÿòè". Äîëæåí ëè ÿ ïðîñèòü àðõèâû äëÿ âîåííûõ çàïèñåé ìîåãî äÿäè Äìèòðèÿ?

Åñòü çàïèñè äâóõ ìóæ÷èí, íàçâàííûõ Ðåáåíîê îò Óäàëåâêà íà ýòîì ñàéòå.
http://www.dokst.ru/main/node/...ort=%D0%A0

ß îïå÷àëåí ñòîëüêî ÷åëîâå÷åñêèõ ñòðàäàíèé.

ß ñìîòðåë íà Îäíîêëàññíèêè äëÿ ëþäåé, íàçâàííûõ Ðåáåíîê. Íî åñòü ìíîãî ëþäåé, ñ èìåíåì Ðåáåíîê. ß çíàþ, èìåíà ìîåãî ïðåäêà, íî ÿ íå çíàþ, èìåíà èõ ïîòîìêîâ, èëè èõ ñóäüáû. Òîëüêî ìîé äåä ïðèøåë ê U.S.A. Çàïèñè ìîåãî äåäà íàõîäÿòñÿ íà FamilySearch.
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I am looking for descendants of Dmitri Vasilyvich Rebenok and his wife Anastasia Ivanova. My great-uncle from Udalevka Belarus. Born 1904. Ruchayevka parish.
psyandr

Ñîîáùåíèé: 4322
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1975
Rita, Ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèå ôàìèëèè äîõîäèò äî âîñòî÷íîé Ëèòâû, êîòîðàÿ ñâÿçàíà èñòîðè÷åñêè ñ Ïîëüøåé. Âîçìîæíî â Þæíîé Ïîëüøå (Krakow, Russian Empire) áûëè ðåêðóòèðîâàíû ñåìüè, ãîâîðÿùèå íà ñëàâÿíñêîì ÿçûêå (èç ïðèëåãàþùåãî ðàéîíà Ñëîâàêèè (×åõîñëîâàêèè)), ãäå æèëè è æèâóò ýòíè÷åñêèå ñëîâèíöû (Słowińcy, çàïàäíûå ñëàâÿíå, îäíî èç äðóãèõ íàçâàíèé - ðóññêèå). Èëè, âåðîÿòíåå, äîáðîâîëüíîå ïåðåñåëåíèå.
Ïðèìåðíûé ïóòü (approximate gene-track): Kaunas (Kovno) [Russian Empire] - Vilno - Minsk - Gomel' - Chernigov province (now Ukraine & Bryansk province RU)

Error on site: obd-memorial.ru/html/info.htm?id=409878209 - ýòî îøèáêà (Orenburg region; ReVenok = Revjonok = Revjakin)
chalyshev3340
Êðåñòüÿíñêèé ïðàâíóê

chalyshev3340

Òþìåíñêàÿ îáëàñòü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 221
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 80

Rita Ruff íàïèñàë:
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Ìîãó ëè ÿ çàäàòü âîïðîñ, "ñåëüñîâåò" ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîäðàçäåëåíèåì ïðàâèòåëüñòâà äëÿ âñåõ ýòèõ ñåëàõ?
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Ïî ïîâîäó ñåëüñîâåòà:
WikiPedia RU
WikiPedia EN


Rita Ruff íàïèñàë:
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Êàê âû äóìàåòå, ëþäè â íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ ïðîæèâàþùèõ â Óäàëåâêà â âîçðàñòå? ß ïðîøó ýòîò âîïðîñ, ïîòîìó ñåëüñêîå íàñåëåíèå î÷åíü ìàëî.
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Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ÿ íå çíàþ, ãäå òî÷íî íàõîäèòñÿ Âàøà Óäàëåâêà, è òî÷íî ñêàçàòü íå ìîãó. Íî, ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî êàê è âî âñåõ ìàëî÷èñëåííûõ äåðåâíÿõ — â íèõ æèâóò ëþäè ïðåêëîííîãî âîçðàñòà.


Rita Ruff íàïèñàë:
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Äîëæåí ëè ÿ ïðîñèòü àðõèâû äëÿ âîåííûõ çàïèñåé ìîåãî äÿäè Äìèòðèÿ?
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Åñëè Âàì ýòî èíòåðåñíî, òî, áåçóñëîâíî, äà.


Rita Ruff íàïèñàë:
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Çàïèñè ìîåãî äåäà íàõîäÿòñÿ íà FamilySearch.
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Èíôîðìàöèè ïðî Âàñèëèÿ Ðåáåíîê íåò?
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×à(å)ëûøåâ, Ñòåïàíþê, Ïîäêîâêà, Ïåðåâîç÷èêîâ, Öè(û)ëèí, Ïåòðèí, Ñâèíòóõîâñêèé.
Ìîé äíåâíèê: http://forum.vgd.ru/1769/
psyandr

Ñîîáùåíèé: 4322
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1975
Äîìà â äåðåâíå Óäàë¸âêà ïîñòåïåííî ñíîñÿòñÿ, ñìîòðèòå äëÿ ñðàâíåíèÿ äâà ñïóòíèêîâûõ ñíèìêà, 2010 è 2013 ãîäîâ.

Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: Óäàëåâêà 1.jpg
psyandr

Ñîîáùåíèé: 4322
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1975
2013. Âîéíà, ïîñëåäóþùåå óíè÷òîæåíèå ×åðíîáûëüñêîé àòîìíîé ñòàíöèè ïðèâåëè ê äâóì âîëíàì ýâàêóàöèè ëþäåé. Ïîòîìêè ìîãóò íàõîäèòüñÿ îò Ìèíñêà äî Ãîìåëüñêîé îáëàñòè, è íà òåððèòîðèè Óêðàèíû è Ðîññèè (â îáëàñòÿõ áûâøåé ×åðíèãîâñêîé ãóáåðíèè, ãäå îñåëè èçíà÷àëüíî â äåðåâíÿõ). Íî è èç ýòèõ ìåñò ðàçíûå ýïîõàëüíûå ñîáûòèÿ çàñòàâëÿëè ëþäåé ïåðåñåëÿòüñÿ äàëüøå îò ñâîåé ðîäèíû. Ñ íà÷àëîì ïðîäîâîëüñòâåííîé ðåôîðìû íåçíà÷èòåëüíàÿ ÷àñòü äàííîé ôàìèëèè ïîïàëà â Ñèáèðü.

Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: Óäàëåâêà 2.jpg
psyandr

Ñîîáùåíèé: 4322
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1975
Rita, ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî Rebenok ïîïàëè â Ìèíñêóþ è ×åðíèãîâñêóþ ãóáåðíèè èç Þæíîé Ïîëüøè (ðàéîíû îêîëî ×åõèè è Ñëîâàêèè) â XIX âåêå. Âìåñòå ñ äðóãèìè, â òîì ÷èñëå ñ åâðåÿìè èç ãîðîäà è îêðåñòíîé Áåíäçèí (íåäàëåêî îò ãîðîäà Îñâåíöèì).
 19 âåêå ôàìèëèÿ ñâÿçàíà ñ åâðåéñêîé ñåìü¸é.
Ïðèìåðíàÿ ëèíèÿ Áåíäçèí(Bedzin)-Êðàêîâ -> Âàðøàâà -> Ìèíñê -> SE road to Rechitsa(Rzeczyca) ...-> Chernigov government.
Ãîìåëü â òî äàâíåå âðåìÿ áûë íåáîëüøèì ïîñåëåíèåì, Ðå÷èöà áûëà êðóïíåå è âàæíåå. Óäàëåâêà ðÿäîì ñ Ðå÷èöà.

Places: province's frontiers. Ïîñåëèëèñü èìåííî îêîëî ãðàíèö ãóáåðíèé:
* Rzeczyca (Minsk government) -- -- Mohilew government
* Horobichi, Drozdovitsa (Chernigov government) -- -- Mohilew government
* Sourage rayon (Chernigov government) -- -- Mohilew government
Rita Ruff
Íîâè÷îê

Chicago, IL, USA
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 3
chalyshev3340

Âî âðåìÿ âîéíû, áûëè âñå ëþäè îáÿçàíû èäòè â àðìèþ? ß èìåþ â âèäó, òîëüêî ìóæ÷èíû îïðåäåëåííîãî âîçðàñòà?

Âàñèëèé îòåö Ïàâåë. Âàñèëèé æåíèëñÿ Ksenyia Áîíäàðåíêî 5-XI-1886. Ksenyia îòåö Çàõàð. Îíè áûëè õðèñòèàíàìè.

Ñïàñèáî çà âàøó ïîìîùü, è âàøå òåðïåíèå. ß äóìàþ, ÷òî âû âèäèòå, ÿ î÷åíü ìàëî çíàþò îá èñòîðèè è ïîâñåäíåâíîé æèçíè ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ ñòðàíû.
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I am looking for descendants of Dmitri Vasilyvich Rebenok and his wife Anastasia Ivanova. My great-uncle from Udalevka Belarus. Born 1904. Ruchayevka parish.
Rita Ruff
Íîâè÷îê

Chicago, IL, USA
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 3
psyandr

Ñïàñèáî çà èíôîðìàöèþ î ïðîèñõîæäåíèè è ìèãðàöèè ìîåãî ðîäîâîãî ôàìèëèè Ðåáåíîê. Ôîòîãðàôèè è ñïóòíèêîâûå ñíèìêè âû ïîäåëèëèñü ñäåëàòü ìåíÿ çàäàòüñÿ âîïðîñîì, ïî÷åìó òàê ìíîãî ïëîõèõ âåùåé äîëæíî áûëî ñëó÷èòüñÿ â Óäàëåâêà.

Òåïåðü ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ðîäñòâåííèêè ß íàäåþñü íàéòè ìîæåò æèòü âäàëè îò Óäàëåâêà, è îíè, âîçìîæíî, áûëè ïåðåñåëåíû äåñÿòêè ëåò íàçàä.
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I am looking for descendants of Dmitri Vasilyvich Rebenok and his wife Anastasia Ivanova. My great-uncle from Udalevka Belarus. Born 1904. Ruchayevka parish.
Geo Z

Geo Z

LT
Ñîîáùåíèé: 19768
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 13338

Rita Ruff íàïèñàë:
[q]
ïî÷åìó òàê ìíîãî ïëîõèõ âåùåé äîëæíî áûëî ñëó÷èòüñÿ â Óäàëåâêà.
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çîíà ðàäèîàêòèâíîãî çàãðÿçíåíèÿ
http://ginfor.ru/karta-radioaktiv
Ivan Samtsevich

Ivan Samtsevich

ã. Áîðèñîâ, Áåëàðóñü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 610
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 10348
Rita Ruff, as chalyshev3340 has already advised you, firstly you should have checked online data bases http://www.obd-memorial.ru and http://podvignaroda.mil.ru/ If you did it, you must have found some people with the surname Rebenok from this region, including at least two people from Udaevka and some more from Lojevski district. Including info about Porfiryi Vasilyvich, born in 1894. who could be a brother of your ancestor Dmitri Vasilyvich.
You say that you are looking for descendants of Dmitri Vasilyvich Rebenok. Why not apply to Rechyca archive for some information - at least these funds http://fk.archives.gov.by/fond/104048/ http://fk.archives.gov.by/fond/103929/ sound promising. According to the annotation they contain Ïîõîçÿéñòâåííûå êíèãè (don't know how to translate it into English properly dntknw.gif )
These "books" (of course, if they are available for Udalevka of after war period) will contain lists of households and people, including their age and family relations.
The information about times of 1917 and earlier can be in NIAB (Minsk) http://niab.by/
or even in Chernigov archive http://www.archives.gov.ua/Archives/index.php?ra26#Fonds
Good luck!
p.s. the fact that it is a radioactive zone and possibly no people live there at the moment makes your chances for finding any traces of relatives little
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Respect the Past. Create the Future.
Êîììåð÷åñêîé ãåíåàëîãèåé íå çàíèìàþñü è íà âîïðîñû â ëè÷êó ïî ýòîé òåìàòèêå íå îòâå÷àþ
Àêòóàëüíûé ïîèñê:
Ìîë÷àíû (äåð. Ëÿäû. Ñìèëîâè÷ñêàÿ âîë.);
Æóêè (äåð. Æóêè, Êîðåëè÷ñêàÿ âîë.);
ñåëî Âåðõíÿÿ Ñûðîâàòêà, Ñóìñêèé óåçä
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