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victoryÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 1651 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 947 | Ââåðõ #10 àâãóñòà 2003 18:44 ÂÅÍÃÐÈß -  ïåðèîä ñ 1989 ïî 2011 ãîäû ñòðàíà îôèöèàëüíî íàçûâàëàñü Âåíãåðñêàÿ Ðåñïóáëèêà (Magyar Köztársaság), íî ñ 1-ãî ÿíâàðÿ 2012 ãîäà âñòóïèëà â ñèëó íîâàÿ êîíñòèòóöèÿ Âåíãðèè, êîòîðàÿ îôèöèàëüíî óòâåðäèëà ñîêðàù¸ííîå íàèìåíîâàíèå — Âåíãðèÿ (Magyarország). Ñòîëèöà — Áóäàïåøò. Ãîñóäàðñòâåííûé ÿçûê — âåíãåðñêèé.
 --- Âèêòîðèÿ Èùó Áàá÷åíêî èç Þðêîâêè, Òåëèæåíêî èç Çâåíèãîðîäêè, ëàòûøåé Øèöñ, êàçàêîâ Âåðõîâöåâûõ, Êðûìîâûõ Òàìáîâñêîé ãóáåðíèè, Çàéêîâûõ Øàäðèíñêîãî óåçäà.
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BochkaÍîâè÷îê  Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 2 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1 | Óâàæàåìûé Skoumi! Ìîé äåä ðîäèëñÿ â Ìóêà÷åâî â 1931 ãîäó, åãî ôàìèëèÿ Äóäàø (âåíãåðñêàÿ?). Êàê Âû ñ÷èòàåòå ìîãó ëè ÿ äîêàçàòü íà ýòîì îñíîâàíèè ìîþ ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ê âåíãåðñêîìó íàðîäó?
Dear Skoumi! My grandfather was born in Mukachevo ( Munkacs ) in 1931 and lived there until 1960, his name Dudash ( Hungarian ? ) . What do you think can I prove my hungarian origin with these facts.
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| alla66_08 Íîâè÷îê
Êåìåðîâñêàÿ îáë Ñîîáùåíèé: 9 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2 | Èçâèíèòå, ÷òî íå îòâå÷àþ íà âîïðîñ, íî ÿ óâèäåëà, ÷òî Âàø äåä èç Ìóêà÷åâà. ß èùó ýòî ìåñòî, òî÷íåå: Ïå÷åâñêàÿ îáë, Ìóêà÷åâñêèé óåçä, ñåëî Ãàéè÷è. Ó ìåíÿ òàì ïîãèá äÿäÿ â 1944 ã. è ýòî áûëà âðîäå êàê òåððèòîðèÿ Âåíãðèè. Íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü, ãäå ýòî âñå-òàêè ìåñòî, Óêðàèíà?
 --- Èùó ìåñòî çàõîðîíåíèÿ Ïåðøèí Ìèõàèë Âàñèëüåâè÷,1923-20.11.1944 (Âåíãðèÿ, Ïå÷åâñêàÿ îáë,ñ. Ãàéè÷è) | | |
BochkaÍîâè÷îê  Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 2 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1 | alla66_08 íàïèñàë: [q] Èçâèíèòå, ÷òî íå îòâå÷àþ íà âîïðîñ, íî ÿ óâèäåëà, ÷òî Âàø äåä èç Ìóêà÷åâà. ß èùó ýòî ìåñòî, òî÷íåå: Ïå÷åâñêàÿ îáë, Ìóêà÷åâñêèé óåçä, ñåëî Ãàéè÷è. Ó ìåíÿ òàì ïîãèá äÿäÿ â 1944 ã. è ýòî áûëà âðîäå êàê òåððèòîðèÿ Âåíãðèè. Íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü, ãäå ýòî âñå-òàêè ìåñòî, Óêðàèíà?[/q]
Îòâåòèëà ëè÷íûì ñîîáùåíèåì. --- Èùó..... | | |
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áàðíàóë Ñîîáùåíèé: 3 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1 | Ïèøó â íàäåæäå íàéòè ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Âî âðåìÿ 1 ìèðîâîé âîéíû - Ìîé ïðàäåä Êèø Àíäðåé, îò÷åñòâî íå çíàþ, ïîïàë â ïëåí è åãî óâåçëè â Ñèáèðü (Àëòàéñêèé êðàé), óìåð îí â 1929 ãîäó (ïðàáàáóøêà óìåðëà â (1901- 1962) îò ðàí, çíàþ ÷òî ïðàäåä è ïðàáàáóøêà ïîäàâàëè âî âñåðîññèéñêèé ðîçûñê, è èì ñêàçàëè ÷òî äâîå åãî áðàòüåâ (Ôåäîð, Ãåîðãèé) ðåïàðòèðîâàëèñü â Àâñòðî-Âåíãðèþ (äîìîé), ñàìè îíè äðóã äðóãà èñêàëè, îäèí áðàò íàøåë äðóãîãî, ïîòîìó-÷òî áûëè íå äàëåêî, à ìîåãî ïðàäåäà îíè ñìîãëè íàéòè, íî ó æå ïîçäíî áûëî (îí óìåð), ÿ äóìàþ î òîì ÷òî ó íåãî îñòàëîñü 3 äåòåé èì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë. Îí î÷åíü ñêà÷àë ïî áðàòüÿì, äîìîé õîòåë âåðíóòüñÿ. Ïîýòîìó ìíå áû õîòåëîñü íàéòè ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. --- kiss | | |
| Skoumi Ó÷àñòíèê
Budapest, Hungary / Áóäàïåøò, Âåíãðèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 86 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 58 | Ââåðõ #18 ìàÿ 2015 23:28 18 ìàÿ 2015 23:53 Dear Bochka,
I think you still have to find your great-grandfather's birth record + marriage record with your great-grandmother. Then with this + with the birth certificate of your grandfather and father + marriage certificate with your grandmother and mother + with your birth certificate you can prove that you had Hungarian ancestors. If you would like obtain Hungarian citizenship, please take into account that you have to speak on basic level Hungarian.
Óâàæàåìàÿ Bochka,
ß äóìàþ, ÷òî âû âñå åùå äîëæíû íàéòè âàøåãî ïðàäåäà çàïèñü î ðîæäåíèè + áðàê çàïèñü ñ âàøåé âåëèêîé áàáóøêè. Òîãäà ñ ýòèì + ñ ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î ðîæäåíèè âàøåãî äåäà è îòöà + ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î áðàêå ñ âàøåé áàáóøêîé è ìàòåðüþ + ñ âàøåãî ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î ðîæäåíèè ìîæíî äîêàçàòü, ÷òî âû áûëè âåíãåðñêèå ïðåäêîâ. Åñëè âû õîòåëè áû ïîëó÷èòü âåíãåðñêîå ãðàæäàíñòâî, ïîæàëóéñòà, ïðèíÿòü âî âíèìàíèå, ÷òî âû äîëæíû ãîâîðèòü íà âåíãåðñêîì îñíîâíîé óðîâåíü. --- Ñ óâàæåíèåì:
Êðèñòèàí - Âåíãðèÿ
(ß ãîâîðþ ïî-íåìåöêè, ïî-aíãëèéñêè è ïî-âåíãåðñêè; äëÿ äëèííûõ ðóññêèõ òåêñòîâ ÿ èñïîëüçóþ Google Translate)
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| Skoumi Ó÷àñòíèê
Budapest, Hungary / Áóäàïåøò, Âåíãðèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 86 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 58 | Ïðèâåò Àëëà, ÿ íå çíàþ, ÷òî áûëî â îòâåò Bochka íî êîïèè äîêóìåíòîâ ïîêàçûâàåò Gajić â ñåãîäíÿøíåé Õîðâàòèè. Òåððèòîðèÿ ïðèíàäëåæàëà äî 1918 ãîäà â Âåíãðèè, ïîñëå Òðèàíîí Ëå÷åíèå â Ñåðáèè-õîðâàòñêî-ñëîâåíñêîé Êîðîëåâñòâà (ïîçæå Þãîñëàâèÿ) --- Ñ óâàæåíèåì:
Êðèñòèàí - Âåíãðèÿ
(ß ãîâîðþ ïî-íåìåöêè, ïî-aíãëèéñêè è ïî-âåíãåðñêè; äëÿ äëèííûõ ðóññêèõ òåêñòîâ ÿ èñïîëüçóþ Google Translate)
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| Skoumi Ó÷àñòíèê
Budapest, Hungary / Áóäàïåøò, Âåíãðèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 86 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 58 | Ïðèâåò,
Âû õîòåëè áû íàéòè èãîëêó â ñòîãå ñåíà ... Êèø (Kis èëè Kiss) ÿâëÿåòñÿ îäíèì èç ñàìûõ ðàñïðîñòðàíåííûõ èìåí â Âåíãðèè. Âû äîëæíû ñîáðàòü áîëüøå èíôîðìàöèè î âàøåì ïðàäåäà. Ãäå îí ðîäèëñÿ? Êîãäà îí ðîäèëñÿ? Èìÿ ðîäèòåëåé?
Åñëè áû îí áûë âîåííîïëåííûì, ÷åì îí äîëæåí èìåòü, ÷òîáû áûòü ôàéë â àðõèâå ÍÊÂÄ. Âû óæå ïîïðîáîâàòü ýòîò èñòî÷íèê? Óæå ïîïðîñèë âàñ î ÐÃÂÀ èëè ÐÃÂÈÀ î íåì? (ß íå çíàþ, ÷òî êîìïåòåíòíûé â ñâÿçè ñ âîåííîïëåííûìè â 1-é ìèðîâîé âîéíû) --- Ñ óâàæåíèåì:
Êðèñòèàí - Âåíãðèÿ
(ß ãîâîðþ ïî-íåìåöêè, ïî-aíãëèéñêè è ïî-âåíãåðñêè; äëÿ äëèííûõ ðóññêèõ òåêñòîâ ÿ èñïîëüçóþ Google Translate)
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Ñàìàðà Ñîîáùåíèé: 1 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1 | Ââåðõ #15 èþëÿ 2015 11:19 15 èþëÿ 2015 14:39 Äîáðûé äåíü. Èùó Kalman Leopold. Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ìîåìó ïðàäåäó è åãî ðîäñòâåííèêàì ïðîæèâàþùèì â Âåíãðèè. Ïîääàííîìó Àâñòðî-Âåíãðèè, ó÷àñòíèêó Ïåðâîé Ìèðîâîé Âîéíû. Ðîäèëñÿ è áûë êðåùåí â Âåíãðèè â ñåëå Rábaszentmihály, ìåäüå Vas 7 îêòÿáðÿ 1894 ãîäó. Ìàòü Julia Pal. Îòåö Janos Leopold. Ñåñòðà Vilma Leopold ðîä.13 Jul 1877. Áðàò Karoly Leopold ðîä. 22 Jan 1891. Óìåð â Îðåíáóðãñêîé îáëàñòè â ñåëå Íàçàðîâêà â 1967 ãîäó. Ïî èìåþùèìñÿ ó ìåíÿ äàííûì îí ïîïàë â ïëåí Ðóóññêîé Àðìèè â 1914 ãîäó. Ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî â âîçðàñòå 21 ãîäà.  Ðîññèè ïî ïîëó÷åííûì äîêóìåíòàì åãî çâàëè Ëåîïîëüä (èìÿ) Êàëüìàí (ôàìèëèÿ). Kalman Leopold. Ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî â 1919 ãîäó îí ïîÿâèëñÿ â Îðåíáóðãñêîé îáëàñòè, ñåëî Íàçàðîâêà. Ãäå æåíèëñÿ Äîðîíèíîé Êàðåëèè (Êîðÿ), äî÷åðè ßêîâà è Àííû Äîðîíèíûõ. Ñ Êîðåëèåé ó íèõ áûëî òðè äî÷åðè: Ìàðèÿ, Àëåêñàíäðà è Ëþáîâü (ìîÿ áàáóøêà). Áóäó î÷åíü ïðèçíàòåëåí çà ïîìîùü â ïîèñêàõ. Íàøåë î íåì èíôîðìàöèþ https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X6RS-2YG --- Èùó ëþáûå äàííûå ïî Kalman Leopold èç Vasszentmihály Âåíãðèÿ | | |
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ÀÒÄ Âåíãðèè -
Ïîäðàçäåëÿåòñÿ íà 20 àäìèíèñòðàòèâíî-òåððèòîðèàëüíûõ åäèíèö, 19 èç êîòîðûõ — ìåäüå, è 1 — ãîðîä ðåñïóáëèêàíñêîãî ïîä÷èíåíèÿ, ïðèðàâíåííûé ê ìåäüå. Ìåäüå äåëÿòñÿ íà ÿðàøè, ÿðàøè — íà ãîðîäà è îáùèíû, ñòîëèöà äåëèòñÿ íà ðàéîíû.
Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïî îòäåëüíûì íàñåëåííûì ìåñòàì è ñâîèì ëè÷íûì ïîèñêàì îòêðûâàéòå òåìû â ôàìèëüíûõ èëè äíåâíèêîâûõ ðàçäåëàõ. Ñïèñîê íàñåëåííûõ ìåñò ïî ñòðàíå îãðîìåí è æåëàþùèõ îòêðûòü èíäèâèäóàëüíûå òåìû ìíîãî. Äîïóñêàåòñÿ ðàçáèâêà òåì íà ÿðàøè, ãîðîäà, ðàéîíû. Ïðîñüáà - ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ ýòîé ñõåìû.