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Íà ñàéòå ÂÃÄ ñîáèðàþòñÿ ëþäè, óâëå÷åííûå ãåíåàëîãèåé, èñòîðèåé, ãåðàëüäèêîé è ò.ä. Çäåñü âû íàéäåòå ñîáåñåäíèêîâ, ýêñïåðòîâ, óìåëûõ ïîìîùíèêîâ â ïîèñêàõ ïðåäêîâ è ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Âàì ïîäñêàæóò ãäå èñêàòü äîêóìåíòû î ïàâøèõ â áîÿõ è ïðîïàâøèõ áåç âåñòè, â êàêîé àðõèâ îáðàòèòüñÿ ïðè èññëåäîâàíèè ðîäîñëîâíîé ñâîåé ñåìüè, ïîìîãóò îïðåäåëèòü ïî ñòàðîé ôîòîãðàôèè ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ê âîèíñêèì ÷àñòÿì, âåäîìñòâàì è ÷èíó. ÂÃÄ - ïîèñê ëþäåé â ïðîøëîì, íàñòîÿùåì è áóäóùåì!
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i.gif Ïðîñüáà â ðàçäåëå íîâûå òåìû íà íåñêîëüêî ñîîáùåíèé – ÍÅ ÑÎÇÄÀÂÀÒÜ! Ïèøèòå â ñóùåñòâóþùèõ.
i.gif Ôîòîãðàôèè ÎÁßÇÀÒÅËÜÍÎ!!! ìàêñèìàëüíî ïîäïèñûâàåì èç èìåþùåéñÿ èíôîðìàöèè (ÔÈÎ, íàäïèñè íà îáðàòíîé ñòîðîíå, ïîëíûé àäðåñ è ò.ï.), è ê ñîîáùåíèþ ïðèêðåïëÿåì ÷åðåç ôóíêöèþ «ÂÛÁÐÀÒÜ ôàéë» èëè «ÌÅÍÅÄÆÅÐ çàãðóçêè». Ïðîñüáà ÷åðåç ñòîðîííèå ñåðâèñû íå ïðèêðåïëÿòü, åñëè Âû õîòèòå ñîõðàíèòü ñâîå ôîòî íà íàøåì ôîðóìå.

«Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ðîññèéñêîå çàðóáåæüå» Â.Í.×óâàêîâ

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Âîëîãäà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 23
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Ðåéòèíã: 20
Ïîñìîòðåòü òåêñò êíèãè ìîæíî íà ôîðóìå https://forum.vgd.ru/341/74254/

Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ðîññèéñêîå çàðóáåæüå: íåêðîëîãè 1917-1997. Òîì 1. A-B. 1999
Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ðîññèéñêîå çàðóáåæüå: íåêðîëîãè 1917-1997. Òîì 2. Ã-Ç. 1999
Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ðîññèéñêîå çàðóáåæüå: íåêðîëîãè 1917-1997. Òîì 3. È-Ê. 2001
Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ðîññèéñêîå çàðóáåæüå: íåêðîëîãè 1917-1997. Òîì 4. Ë-Ì. 2004
Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ðîññèéñêîå çàðóáåæüå: íåêðîëîãè 1917-1997. Òîì 5. Í-Ï. 2004
Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ðîññèéñêîå çàðóáåæüå: íåêðîëîãè 1917-1997. Òîì 6. Êíèãà 1. Ïîñ-Ñêð. 2005
Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ðîññèéñêîå çàðóáåæüå: íåêðîëîãè 1917-1997. Òîì 6. Êíèãà 2. Ñêð-Ô. 2006
Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ðîññèéñêîå çàðóáåæüå: íåêðîëîãè 1917-1997. Òîì 6. Êíèãà 3. Õ-ß. 2007

Ññûëêà íà ñòðàíèöó äëÿ çàãðóçêè ôàéëîâ: Ðåñóðñ

Òîì 6 êíèãà 1 äîñêàíèðóåòñÿ â áëèæàéøåå âðåìÿ
Òîì 4 îñòàëîñü çàëèòü ïîñëåäí. ÷àñòü íà ôàéëîîáìåííèê. Îáúåì áîëüøîé èç-çà òîãî, ÷òî êîãäà äåëàë íàìóäðèë ñ ïàðàìåòðàìè, õîòåë ÷òîá êà÷åñòâî áûëî ëó÷øå. âå÷åðîì áóäåò ññûëêà
Òîì 6 êí2 áóäåò ñåãîäíÿ âå÷åðîì

Åñëè áóäóò âîïðîñû ïî ðàáîòå ñ ôàéëîîáìåííèêîì, òî îñòàâëÿéòå Âàøå ñîîáùåíèå ëèáî òóò, ëèáî ïèøèòå íà alexcorp3@yandex.ru
Lubov500
Íîâè÷îê

Ñîîáùåíèé: 5
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2020 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 0
Ìîé äåä ïî ëèíèè ìàìû, Bernovich Konstantin, 1867 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ, óðîæåíåö Áåëàðóñèè, ìåñòå÷êî Òèìêîâè÷è, ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî â 1913 ãîäó èììèãðèðîâàë â Êàíàäó, ãîðîä Òîðîíòî. Åãî æåíà, ernovich Olga (Pavlovich â äåâè÷åñòâå) Olga, 1877 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ, óðîæåíêà Áåëàðóñèè, ìåñòå÷êî Òèìêîâè÷è, îñòàëàñü â ýòî âðåìÿ ñ òðåìÿ äåòüìè. Ñî ñëîâ ìîåé áàáóøêè â Êàíàäå ó äåäà áûëè â ñîáñòâåííîñòè ìàñòåðñêèå ïî ðåìîíòó ìàøèíîê "Çèíãåð". Îí ïëàíèðîâàë ïåðåâåçòè ñåìüþ ê ñåáå è âåë ê ýòîìó ïîäãîòîâêó. Îäíàêî â 1916 ãîäó ìîÿ áàáóøêà ïîëó÷èëà èçâåùåíèå ñ ãîðîäà Òîðîíòî î ñìåðòè ìîåãî äåäà è ïðèãëàøåíèå â Êàíàäó äëÿ îôîðìëåíèÿ íàñëåäñòâà. ( Äîêóìåíò íå ñîõðàíèëñÿ). Ìåñòî çàõîðîíåíèÿ ñî ñëîâ áàáóøêè ã. Òîðîíòî, ðóññêîå êëàäáèùå.  ýòè ãîäû âûåõàòü â äðóãóþ ñòðàíó ñ äåòüìè ìîÿ áàáóøêà âîçìîæíîñòè íå èìåëà.
Ñ 1989 ãîäà ìîÿ ìàìà Sivochub (Bernovich â äåâè÷åñòâå) Elena çàíèìàëàñü ïîèñêîì ñâåäåíèé î ñâîåì îòöå.
Ñ 1998 ãîäà, ïîñëå ñìåðòè ìîåé ìàìû, ýòèì âîïðîñîì çàíèìàþñü ÿ è õî÷ó çíàòü î æèçíè è äåÿòåëüíîñòè ìîåãî äåäà â Êàíàäå, ïðè÷èíó åãî ñìåðòè, ãäå êîíêðåòíî ïîõîðîíåí.
Óáåäèòåëüíàÿ ïðîñüáà ê Âàì, ïîìî÷ü ìíå â ýòîì âîïðîñå.

ìîé àäðå: Óëèöà Áàðàáàøîâà, äîì 38, êâàðòèðà 526, ãîðîä Õàðüêîâ, Óêðàèíà, 61168.
Email: Lubov7750@gmail.com
Ñ óâàæåíèåì Ïðîêîïîâè÷ Ëþáîâü Íèêîëàåâíà.


My granfather on my mother’s side Konstantin Ivanovich Bernovich, born 1867 in Belarus, in the town of Timkovichi. Approximately in 1913 he immigrated to Toronto, Canada. His wife Olga Iosifovna Bernovich (maiden name Pavlovich), born 1877 in Belarus, in the town of Timkovichi (Kopylskiy District), stayed at home with three children. According to my grandmother, my grandfather had some kind of a manufacturing facility in Canada. He was planning for his family to join him in Canada and was making preparations to do so. However, in 1916 my grandmother received a letter from Toronto informing that my grandfather died. The letter contained an invitation for her to come to Canada to do the inheritance formalities (unfortunately, that document was lost). According to my grandmother, he was buried at a Russian cemetery in Toronto. At the time, my grandmother had no possibility to go to another country together with her children.
Since 1989, my mother, Elena Konstantinovna Sivochub (maiden name Bernovich) was trying to find some information about her father.
Since 1998, after my mother died, I continued to do what she had started, and I would like to know about the professional and personal life of my grandfather in Canada. I would like to find out the reason of his death and the exact place of his burial.

I am really hoping you can assist me with this.

My address: Ukraine, 61168, Kharkiv, Barabashova, 38, kv. 526.
Email: Lubov7750@gmail.com
Kind regards,
Lubov Prokopovich.
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13364
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 10580

Lubov500 íàïèñàë:
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Áåðíîâè÷-â êíèãå "Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû" íåò.
×åðåç ïîñîëüñòâî Êàíàäû çàïðàøâàëè ?
×åðåç Ìåæäóíàðîäíûé Êðàñíûé êðåñò ?
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Âèëèíû,Êàðìàêîâû-Ïåòåðáóðã,ßðîñëàâñêàÿ ãóá.,Ìîñêâà
Áîæåíîâû,Àõìàòîâû-Òóëà,Ìîñêâà,Ïåòåðáóðã.
Ìàðêóñ,Ìàêîãîí-Äîíáàññ,Ìîëäàâèÿ
VeraKriev
Íà÷èíàþùèé

Ñîîáùåíèé: 37
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 830
Äîáðûé äåíü! Èùó ìåñòî çàõîðîíåíèÿ ìîåãî äåäà Çàïðèâîäû Åâñåÿ Ñàââè÷à 1885 ã.ð. Áóäó áëàãîäàðíà çà èíôîðìàöèþ.
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Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î Çàïðèâîäå,Ñòóïàê,Äîññè
ygv

ygv

Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13364
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 10580

VeraKriev íàïèñàë:
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Èùó ìåñòî çàõîðîíåíèÿ ìîåãî äåäà Çàïðèâîäû Åâñåÿ Ñàââè÷à 1885 ã.ð.
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Çà ðóáåæîì èëè â Ðîññèè ?
 "Íåçàáûòûõ ìîãèëàõ" íåò.
Ñ 1-ãî ÿíâàðÿ 2021ã â Ðîññèè çàðàáîòàëà åäèíàÿ ñèñòåìà ó÷¸òà ÇÀÃÑ.
Îáðàòèòåñü äëÿ óòî÷íåíèÿ äàòû è ìåñòà ñìåðòè, õîòÿ áû â ñâîé ÇÀÃÑ.
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Âèëèíû,Êàðìàêîâû-Ïåòåðáóðã,ßðîñëàâñêàÿ ãóá.,Ìîñêâà
Áîæåíîâû,Àõìàòîâû-Òóëà,Ìîñêâà,Ïåòåðáóðã.
Ìàðêóñ,Ìàêîãîí-Äîíáàññ,Ìîëäàâèÿ
VeraKriev
Íà÷èíàþùèé

Ñîîáùåíèé: 37
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 830
Çà ðóáåæîì. Çíàþ,÷òî îí â 1943 ãîäó ïðîæèâàë â Êèòàå. Â Ðîññèþ îí íå ìîã âåðíóòüñÿ.
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Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î Çàïðèâîäå,Ñòóïàê,Äîññè
Gul

Gul

Ñîîáùåíèé: 12557
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 42701

VeraKriev íàïèñàë:
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Çà ðóáåæîì. Çíàþ,÷òî îí â 1943 ãîäó ïðîæèâàë â Êèòàå. Â Ðîññèþ îí íå ìîã âåðíóòüñÿ.
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Âàì îòâå÷àëè çäåñü

https://forum.vgd.ru/post/614/50305/p2109420.htm#pp2109420

Âû îçíàêîìèëèñü ñ åãî äåëîì â ô. ÁÐÝÌ?
VeraKriev
Íà÷èíàþùèé

Ñîîáùåíèé: 37
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 830
Ãþëüíàðà,áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî çà îòêëèê. Ðàçóìååòñÿ ÿ ïîëó÷èëà åãî äåëî èç ô.ÁÐÝÌ. Âåðíóòüñÿ â Ðîññèþ îí íå ìîã, ò.ê. íà íåãî áûëî çàâåäåíî óãîëîâíîå äåëî è åìó äàëè 20 ëåò êàòîðæíûõ ðàáîò. ß ïðîâåðèëà âñå ñïèñêè ýìèãðàíòîâ èç Õàðáèíà è íè â îäíîì åãî íåò. Ìîÿ ìàìà áûëà åãî ðîäíîé äî÷åðüþ è îíà íè÷åãî íå çíàëà î ñóäüáå ñâîåãî îòöà ïîñëå 1935 ãîäà. Êðîìå òîãî, ó íåãî áûë ïðèåìíûé ñûí. Îí òîæå íè÷åãî íå çíàë î ñâîåì îò÷èìå ïîñëå 1943 ãîäà.  1943 ãîäó ìàìèí ñâîäíûé áðàò(ïðèåìíûé ñûí äåäà) èìåë íåîñòîðîæíîñòü âåðíóòüñÿ â Ðîññèþ.
Íà âðåìÿ çàïîëíåíèÿ àíêåòû äåäó áûëî íå 73 ãîäà ,à 58.
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Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î Çàïðèâîäå,Ñòóïàê,Äîññè
Gul

Gul

Ñîîáùåíèé: 12557
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 42701
>> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ VeraKriev îò 22 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 15:45

Âåðà, îòâåòèëà Âàì çäåñü

https://forum.vgd.ru/post/614/50305/p3641309.htm#pp3641309

 ïðîäîëæåíèå íà÷àòîãî òàì ïîèñêà
Klim2018

Klim2018

Ñîîáùåíèé: 29331
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2018 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 32380

Vladimir_Nazarenko íàïèñàë:
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... ó âàñ èìååòñÿ 6-òè òîìíèê Â.Í. ×óâàêîâà "Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû". Ðîññèéñêîå Çàðóáåæüå: íåêðîëîãè 1917-1997, èçäàííûé â 1999-2005 ãã. Èíòåðåñóåò íåêðîëîã øòàáñ-ðîòìèñòðà â îòñòàâêå Êîíñòàíòèíà Ïèòðà. Îí óìåð 20.12.1941 è áûë ïîõîðîíåí íà Íîâîì êëàäáèùå â Áåëãðàäå.
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Vladimir_Nazarenko íàïèñàë:
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Âåðîÿòíî òàì æå áóäåò è íåêðîëîã åãî äî÷åðè Åêàòåðèíû. Îíà ñêîí÷àëàñü 30 àïðåëÿ 1921 ãîäà è ïîõîðîíåíà íà Íîâîì êëàäáèùå â Áåëãðàäå.
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Äîáðûé âå÷åð!
Åñòü òàêîé ñïðàâî÷íèê è Âàøè ëþäè â í¸ì ïðèñóòñòâóþò.

Ïèòðà Åêàòåðèíà
(îê. 1901, Ðîñòîâ – 17/30 àïð. 1921, Áåëãðàä)
Ïîõîðîíåíà â Áåëãðàäå.
Ñïèñîê çàõîðîíåíèé â Áåëãðàäå, ñîñòàâëåííûé À. Àðñåíüåâûì.

Ïèòðà Êîíñòàíòèí Àëüáåðòîâè÷
(îê. 1865, Ðîñòîâ – 07/20 äåê. 1941, Áåëãðàä)
Øòàá-ðîòìèñòð â îòñòàâêå.
Ïîõîðîíåí íà Íîâîì êëàäáèùå (ó÷. 80 À, à. ?)..
Ñïèñîê çàõîðîíåíèé â Áåëãðàäå, ñîñòàâëåííûé À. Àðñåíüåâûì.

Èñòî÷íèê:
Íåçàáûòûå ìîãèëû. Ðîññèéñêîå çàðóáåæüå: íåêðîëîãè 1917 – 1999: Â 6 ò. Ò. 5. Í – Ï / Ðîñ. Ãîñ. Á-êà; Ñîñò. Â.Í. ×óâàêîâ. – Ì., 2004. Ñ. 471.
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Çíàíèÿ - ñèëà
Ëàéê (2)
Vladimir_Nazarenko

Vladimir_Nazarenko

Òàãàíðîã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2068
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1520

Klim2018 íàïèñàë:
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Åñòü òàêîé ñïðàâî÷íèê è Âàøè ëþäè â í¸ì ïðèñóòñòâóþò
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Áëàãîäàðþ çà ïðåäîñòàâëåííûå ñâåäåíèÿ.

À èçâåñòíî ëè, êòî òàêîé À. Àðñåíüåâ, ñîñòàâèâøèé Ñïèñîê çàõîðîíåíèé â Áåëãðàäå, è â êàêîì ãîäó áûë ñîñòàâëåí ýòîò ñïèñîê? Ïðè ýòîì íåïîíÿòíî, ïî êàêîé ïðè÷èíå äàòû ñìåðòè äàþòñÿ â ôîðìàòå ñòàðûé / íîâûé ñòèëü.

 ñåìüå Êîíñòàíòèíà Ïèòðà (æåíà - Ìàðèÿ Åâñòèãíååâíà, â äåâè÷åñòâå - Õìåëüíèöêàÿ) áûëà åùå îäíà, ìåíüøàÿ äî÷ü - Îëüãà. Åñòü ëè óïîìèíàíèÿ î íèõ â "Íåçàáûòûõ ìîãèëàõ"?
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"Ïðîñèòå – è âàì äàäóò, èùèòå – è íàéäåòå, ñòó÷èòå - è âàì îòêðîþò. Ïîòîìó ÷òî êàæäûé, êòî ïðîñèò, ïîëó÷àåò, è êòî èùåò, íàõîäèò, è òîìó, êòî ñòó÷èò, îòêðûâàþò". (Åâàíãåëèå îò Ìàòôåÿ 7:7)
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