Martinoff (Мартынов)

Both Rome and Malta said that they don't have them and that the documents are in St. Petersburg,
but St. Petersburg says, that a french Priest has the documents in France!

F. Martinoff написал:

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The example you gave, in the two links, do make sense,
but if you believe that in my picture the depicted award is the St. Vladimir Order, shouldn't there be red jewels just like in your example!

But the stones are all white, the closest would be the St. George Order,
...but the St. George was solely a military award, .....and possibly unfitting for a Head Priest of the Maltese Chapel of St. John ............or maybe I am wrong?

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Hi F. Martinoff,
There was no such thing as St. Vladimir’s cross with diamonds. The example you saw is an early version of St. Anna’s cross which is a different order. I don’t remember exactly at what particular cases diamonds were added to a regular cross.

Do you by any chance have a higher resolution version of the second (earlier) group photo? If yes, then could you please upload an enlarged section with the same cross as well? Could you also enlarge the neck cross worn by the officer who sits next to Martynoff? It will give you a reference image for comparison. At this point I also suspect that we see St. Vladimir 3rd class. Sometimes a glossy surface reflects light this way and a cross looks white on pictures.

BTW. You probably know it but just in case. The first (larger) group picture was taken at 1902 at the Centennial celebration of the Corps. The group includes current and former Corps’ staff members.
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lwe...l/Cen.html

Regards,
Vladimir

"1902 at the Centennial celebration of the Corps"

Thank you, but yes I know!

Based on the info of the Corps des Pages, he was still there,
meaning not as former Staff Member, but as current Staff Member!

Could they be wrong!?

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Also.... I can't find the information when and where he died and where he is buried!

As if he never existed, if I didn't have these pictures and documents of him,
nobody would have believed me!

F. Martinoff написал:

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Based on the info of the Corps des Pages, he was still there,
meaning not as former Staff Member, but as current Staff Member!

Could they be wrong!?

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Seems correct to me. Here is the info regarding him from the book "Пажеский Его Императорского Величества корпус за 100 лет. 1802-1902" that was published in 1902. He is listed as a current member of the staff.

Thank you!

The discussion is about this award!!!!

http://1.2.3.12/bmi/img208.ima...lder1c.jpg

http://1.2.3.12/bmi/img442.ima...15copy.jpg

Year 1902!



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