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Moderator, yes, this is my Aleksander. He worked as high school professor/ inspector in Tsarist Russia in now Poland, Ukraine (Mariupol), and Saint Petersburg. My great-grandmother once said he had been to Bessarabia (I assume this was Mariupol) and he was always away for work.
In 1907, Alexander was promoted to the rank of non-commissioned officer in reserve in Izyum district of the province of Kharkov. At time of WWI, he was applied to service in the 62nd artillery division, and in course of serving there was promoted to the rank of second lieutenant in the year 1916.
In their wedding photo (1911/1912), Aleksander is wearing a civil uniform, not military.

elena_krd, I have no way of knowing Petr's patrynomic unless I order Aleksander's birth certificate. I am waiting to hear from the archive.
I will send a query to the email you provided, but Google translate does not make the information of the funds clear. Russian Serbian womens gymnasium 1941?
Where were you able to find the information about Nikolay?

Regards,
Karolina

Ìîäåðàòîð, äà, ýòî ìîé Àëåêñàíäð. Îí ðàáîòàë â êà÷åñòâå ïðîôåññîðà âûñîêîãî øêîëå / èíñïåêòîð â öàðñêîé Ðîññèè â íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ Ïîëüøà, Óêðàèíà (Ìàðèóïîëü), è Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã. Ìîÿ ïðàáàáóøêà îäíàæäû ñêàçàë, ÷òî îí áûë â Áåññàðàáèè (ÿ ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî ýòî áûëî Ìàðèóïîëü), è îí áûë âñåãäà äàëåêî çà ðàáîòó.
 1907 ãîäó Àëåêñàíäð áûë ïîâûøåí äî çâàíèÿ óíòåð-îôèöåðà â ðåçåðâå â Èçþìñêîì ðàéîíå ïðîâèíöèè Õàðüêîâå. Íà âðåìÿ Ïåðâîé ìèðîâîé âîéíû, îí áûë ïðèìåíåí íà ñëóæáó â 62-é àðòèëëåðèéñêîé äèâèçèè, è â õîäå ñëóæåíèÿ áûë ïîâûøåí â çâàíèè âòîðîãî ëåéòåíàíòà â 1916 ãîäó.
 ñâîþ ñâàäåáíóþ ôîòîãðàôèþ (1911/1912), Àëåêñàíäð îäåò â ãðàæäàíñêóþ ôîðìó, íå âîåííûå.

elena_krd, ó ìåíÿ íåò âîçìîæíîñòè óçíàòü, patrynomic Ïåòð, åñëè òîëüêî ÿ çàêàçûâàþ ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè Àëåêñàíäðà àâòîðà. ß æäó, ÷òîáû óñëûøàòü èç àðõèâà.
ß ïîøëþ çàïðîñ íà ýëåêòðîííóþ ïî÷òó Âàì îáåñïå÷åí, íî Google Translate íå èìååò èíôîðìàöèè î ôîíäàìè ÿñíà. Ðóññêèé Ñåðáñêèé æåíñêîé ãèìíàçèè 1941 ãîäà?

Ãäå âû áûëè â ñîñòîÿíèè íàéòè èíôîðìàöèþ î Íèêîëàå?

Ñ óâàæåíèåì,
Karolina

Ñïèñîê ñòóäåíòîâ Èìïåðàòîðñêîãî Õàðüêîâñêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà íà 1911–1912 àêàäåìè÷åñêèé ãîä
http://dspace.univer.kharkov.u...1%82%D1%8C

I apologize. Because i was researching what happened to Aleksander after 1917, I did not realize that I should have also provided his previous military service. The information about Aleksander going to Denikin in the Caucasus only comes from my great-grandmother. I have no proof of this otherwise.

Regards,
Karolina


ß ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ. Ïîòîìó ÷òî ÿ èññëåäîâàë, ÷òî ñëó÷èëîñü ñ Àëåêñàíäðîì ïîñëå 1917 ãîäà, ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ÿ äîëæåí òàêæå ïðåäîñòàâèëè ñâîþ ïðåäûäóùóþ âîåííóþ ñëóæáó. èíôîðìàöèÿ î Àëåêñàíäð ñîáèðàåòñÿ Äåíèêèíà íà Êàâêàçå ïðèõîäèò òîëüêî îò ìîåé ïðàáàáóøêè. Ó ìåíÿ íåò äîêàçàòåëüñòâ ýòîãî â ïðîòèâíîì ñëó÷àå.

Ñ óâàæåíèåì,
Karolina

I know nothing about Aleksander's fate. He came home one night in 1917 with his adjutant, tried to take his family who did not want to leave, and he left without them. He was assumed to have tried to reach Denikin and his army. Maybe he died on the road.

I know almost nothing about Nicolay. I only know that he was born in 1886, graduated from Kharkiv University, and the information on the picture you posted about him.

Regards,
Karolina


ß íè÷åãî íå çíàþ î ñóäüáå Àëåêñàíäðà àâòîðà. Îí ïðèøåë äîìîé îäíó íî÷ü â 1917 ãîäó ñî ñâîèì àäúþòàíòîì, ïîïûòàëèñü âçÿòü åãî ñåìüè, êîòîðûå íå õîòÿò, ÷òîáû óéòè, è îí óøåë áåç íèõ. Îí áûë Ïðåäïîëàãàåòñÿ, ÷òî ïûòàëèñü äîñòè÷ü Äåíèêèíà è åãî àðìèè. Ìîæåò áûòü, îí ñêîí÷àëñÿ ïî äîðîãå.

ß ïî÷òè íè÷åãî íå çíàåì î Íèêîëàåì. ß çíàþ òîëüêî, ÷òî îí ðîäèëñÿ â 1886 ãîäó, îêîí÷èë Õàðüêîâñêèé óíèâåðñèòåò, à èíôîðìàöèÿ íà êàðòèíêå âàñ â êóðñå î íåì.

Ñ óâàæåíèåì,
Karolina