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Looking For A Marriage Record

Looking for a marriage record in Russian Empire

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Pay attention to the phrase about marriage: "announced in the battalion order". My guess is that their marriage took place in an infantry or regimental church.
If I'm not wrong Vilna local regiment = Novo-Troksky 169th Infantry Regiment. You can see how the names changed here link. Your Nechaev was in the 17th reserve personnel regiment of the Vilna local battalion. But they only had a regimental church in 1892. (if I found the information correctly)

The RGVIA has a fund F. 7583, 1 op., 12 units. Chronicle, last dates: 1877-1879. 17th Infantry Reserve Battalion (1877-1879). May be there would be some information (battalion order for example).
But anyway you are already extremely lucky to find date of marriage and maiden name.
It might also make sense to look at F. 2666. Op. 3 d.20 52nd Vilna Infantry Regiment of Grand Duke Kirill Vladimirovich. Regimental Church. If I'm not mistaken those regiments were connected. There are marriage records for 1877–1886.
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Oh I see. It's not as simple as I thought. I may have to reapply to rgvia then.

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Also there is a note that in 1881 Grigory lived in Moscow in the house of the peasant Mikhail Morozov, Lefortovo part of the 7th quarter. He gave an acknowledgment in Moscow.
and in 1880 lived in Chausy as permanent resident in the house of Mrs. Sinyavskaya (probably Maria's mother house)

It is detayled - catarrh, rheumatism, an “air tumor of the lungs” (apparently a cyst) was diagnosed, and as a result, dilation of the right ventricle of the heart.
The conclusion was given by doctors of the 61st Vladimir Infantry Regiment in 1880.
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Great thank you very much for this valuable information.
He had a permanent residence in Chaussy and a "secondary residence" in Moscow, where his family lived. At that time he still had at least one brother and one sister with their children. Maybe Mikhail Morozov was his older sister's husband or a nephew? But I guess it could just be a friend too.
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Is there a fund for students who attended the Faculty of Medicine at Moscow University in 1880-1884?
I would like to find Mikhail Sinyavsky's student file if it exists
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Is there a fund for students who attended the Faculty of Medicine at Moscow University in 1880-1884?
I would like to find Mikhail Sinyavsky's student file if it exists
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The personal files of the students of Moscow University are in the archive of Moscow. Fund 418, inventory 295, case 473 Mikhail Sinyavsky


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"...называться Филофеем, точно, не совсем ловко и что за такое имя даже упрекать можно человека, хотя собственно виноват тут поп, которого при крещении не ублаготворили как следует" (И.С.Тургенев "Записки охотника")
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The personal files of the students of Moscow University are in the archive of Moscow. Fund 418, inventory 295, case 473 Mikhail Sinyavsky
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Thank you !
https://yandex.ru/archive/cata...5111ddac99
Is that the one right? Unfortunately, the archives have not been digitized
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I just thought of something about the couple Ignatiy Engel and Aleksandra Sinyavskaya. They were married in Moscow in 1885 and Grigory was their best man. So we can already say that Grigory was there between 1880 and 1885. Then in 1895 when Grigory's son was born in Kaunas, Ignatiy was his godfather and was a school teacher. So he probably settled there and probably had children there too. So while waiting for the research to unravel on Mikhail's school record and the Nechaev - Sinyavsky marriage, I look at the births between 1885 and 1890 in Kaunas or 1895 if I don't find anything before.
So far I've never found anything in Moscow with the name Engel so I think that's where I have to look. Or maybe Chaussy...
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Unfortunately, the archives have not been digitized
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They've digitized primarily the genealogical documents, not all of the archives.
It's Moscow state archives. You can reach out to someone who helped you with RGVIA for this file.
It's a chance to find out something about the Sinyavskys.
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I found a child from Ignatiy Engel and Aleksandra Sinyavskaya
Could someone translate her birth certificate ?

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I found a child from Ignatiy Engel and Aleksandra Sinyavskaya
Could someone translate her birth certificate ?
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# 14. Birthdate - 13th, baptism date - 23rd - Lidiya
[parents]
The 3rd 8th class teacher of Kovno (Kaunass) male gymnasium school Ignaty Evgenievich Engel and his legally married spouse Alexandra Danilovna, both of the Orthodox faith.
[god parents]
The inspector of the given gymnasium, State Councillor Ivan Vladimirovich Karnauhov and the wife of a retired captain Maria Danilovna Nechaeva.
[who performed the baptism]
The teacher of the Bible of the Kovno gynmasium, Priest Nikolay Izvekov
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I found a child from Ignatiy Engel and Aleksandra Sinyavskaya
Could someone translate her birth certificate ?
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# 14. Birthdate - 13th, baptism date - 23rd - Lidiya
[parents]
The 3rd class teacher of Kovno (Kaunass) male gymnasium school Ignaty Evgenievich Engel and his legally married spouse Alexandra Danilovna, both of the Orthodox faith.
[god parents]
The inspector of the given gymnasium, State Councillor Ivan Vladimirovich Karnauhov and the wife of a retired captain Maria Danilovna Nechaeva.
[who performed the baptism]
The teacher of the Bible of the Kovno gynmasium, Priest Nikolay Izvekov
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The 8th class... (VIII)
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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя OlgaKob от 25 мая 2024 23:38

Thanks
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