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FuranNietchaieff

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oh and there is nothing concerning his death?
And nothing concerning potential children from his first marriage either?
I believe that on the back of page 8, there is a declaration made in 1880 where he specifies that he is childless. But being already remarried, does he include potential children from his first marriage?
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oh and there is nothing concerning his death?
And nothing concerning potential children from his first marriage either?
I believe that on the back of page 8, there is a declaration made in 1880 where he specifies that he is childless. But being already remarried, does he include potential children from his first marriage?
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According to the file at the time of drawing up the document, he did not have children.

ф400 оп12 д8534 is all about of Nechaev's resignation. Therefore, there is no information about his death. There is information that after resignation he planned to live in Moscow.
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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя FuranNietchaieff от 17 мая 2024 22:31

Those questions you need to ask the person who sent it to you. I am like OlgaKob don't see correlations of these three documents with Nechaev.
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According to the file at the time of drawing up the document, he did not have children.

ф400 оп12 д8534 is all about of Nechaev's resignation. Therefore, there is no information about his death. There is information that after resignation he planned to live in Moscow.
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Unfortunate, I was really hoping to have a little more information on his place of death.
According to his wife Maria, he died in 1918. In 1895, he was in Kaunas, Lithuania (birth town of his child). But between 1880-1895 and 1895-1918 I have nothing about his family. His son Mikhail and Maria moved to Radzymin during 1920 but I think he was already no longer in this world. However his son was a soldier during the first world war under the commandment of colonel Nikolaï Lokhvitsky, he left Moscow in 1916. Moscow might be a good guess.
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Those questions you need to ask the person who sent it to you. I am like OlgaKob don't see correlations of these three documents with Nechaev.
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Okay, I'll get back in touch with the person and see what he can tell me on this subject. I'll keep you informed
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Unfortunate, I was really hoping to have a little more information on his place of death.
According to his wife Maria, he died in 1918. In 1895, he was in Kaunas, Lithuania (birth town of his child). But between 1880-1895 and 1895-1918 I have nothing about his family. His son Mikhail and Maria moved to Radzymin during 1920 but I think he was already no longer in this world. However his son was a soldier during the first world war under the commandment of colonel Nikolaï Lokhvitsky, he left Moscow in 1916. Moscow might be a good guess.
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No, Lochwicki entered the WWI in April 1915 when he became a brigade commander at the 25th infantry division, which in August-September of 1915 took part in the Vilno operation.
But as soon as May 1915, he entered the 24th infantry division as a brigade commander.

The division in 1915 took part in the operations in Poland and Western Belarus.

Since May 1916 he took part in the operations in France (if you remember, Mikhail Grigoryevich Nechaev mentioned France).
Since 1917 he was the commander of the 1st Special infantry division of the Russian troops in France.
It also says that Lochwicki was the commander of the Russian base at Laval until July 1918.

Only in 1919 Lochwicki returned to Russia (during the Civil war), he traveled via the North to Siberia to join Kolchak.
So, possibly Mikhail Grigorievich could return to Poland (which was formerly part of the Russian Empire, actually) in July-August 1918.

So, his father could die in either Vilno, or Kaunas, or Radzimin in Poland.
I don't think they ever lived in Moscow since he had settled in Lithuania.

Here are the sources on Lochwicki:
ria1914.info

An article on the 24th infantry division

The wiki page on the division
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Would it be possible to obtain a translation of this page? I feel like it's talking about an injury or something medical related.
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It says that he was qualified for a pension from the general governmental treasury even though he hadn't served the full term, as he retired due to an illness.
But he wasn't qualified for a pension from the Military infantry treasury since his illness wasn't on the list.
It doesn't specify what kind of illness though.
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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя OlgaKob от 18 мая 2024 13:41

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Since May 1916 he took part in the operations in France (if you remember, Mikhail Grigoryevich Nechaev mentioned France).
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Yes, this is exactly what I mean by "However his son was a soldier during the first world war under the commandment of colonel Nikolaï Lokhvitsky, he left Moscow in 1916". And the journey to reach France started from Moscow by train to Dalian then by boat to Marseille.

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So, possibly Mikhail Grigorievich could return to Poland (which was formerly part of the Russian Empire, actually) in July-August 1918.
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How to make sure it was Poland ? He was also a theater artist in Kiev, Ukraine

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So, his father could die in either Vilno, or Kaunas, or Radzimin in Poland.
I don't think they ever lived in Moscow since he had settled in Lithuania.
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For 1918, I already made a request and they found nothing. Obviously in the case where the year given by his wife is correct
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It says that he was qualified for a pension from the general governmental treasury even though he hadn't served the full term, as he retired due to an illness.
But he wasn't qualified for a pension from the Military infantry treasury since his illness wasn't on the list.
It doesn't specify what kind of illness though.
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Thanks. Unfortunate that the type of illness is not detailed
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How to make sure it was Poland ? He was also a theater artist in Kiev, Ukraine
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So, your family traveled a lot))
As you can see, in order to find the death record for Grigory Mikhailovich you'll have to research all of the places for 1918.
You can possibly also visit Vilnius and Kaunass yourself to research the local cemetreries, there're still in the Schengen zone, from what I remember.
You can visit Poland too for the same purposes.
Cemetery research can help.
As for Moscow, yandex archives are available too.
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