Looking For A Marriage Record
Looking for a marriage record in Russian Empire
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17 мая 2024 22:31 >> Ответ на сообщение пользователя OlgaKob от 17 мая 2024 20:13 these are the famous military documents that I requested from Teatro if you remember. [q] Прикрепленный файл (Ф.3028,Оп.1,Д.174.pdf, 1159453 байт) - concerns a number of officers commissioned to higher ranks. Mostly on some Sergey Rodionov. Yreas 1917-1918[/q]
Alright, nothing about Grigory ? So I don't need to try to translate these documents ? I wonder why he sent them to me [q] Прикрепленный файл (ф14оп1д1698.pdf, 1060203 байт) - a ''revision tale'' (census) of 1760 of Cossacks from Ostrogozhsky slododskoy corps[/q]
1760 ? Why I got this files ? Is there a connection with the Nechaev family ? [q] Прикрепленный файл (ф400оп9д23387.pdf, 2955380 байт) - on lieutenant colonel Chukmasov, 1885[/q]
Who was this colonel? Grigory's superior? Finally, Only the document ф400оп12д8534 concerns Grigory | | |
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17 мая 2024 22:39 [q] It doesn't specify when he married Alexandra Voynich. [/q]
Unfortunately! It would have been super interesting to know more about this wedding. [q] On the back of the leaf 40 (page 23) it says that in 1873 he was commissioned to Chaussy local team (Чаусская местная команда).[/q]
Oh maybe he met Maria Sinyavskaya in this year [q] Before that, in 1864, he served at the 106th Ufa infantry corps. According to this website the corps was located in Vilno, but since 1897. I don't know where it was located between those dates. [/q]
1864 correspond to the year when he was for the suppression of the Polish rebellion so probably Warsaw | | |
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17 мая 2024 22:46 17 мая 2024 22:49 oh and there is nothing concerning his death?
And nothing concerning potential children from his first marriage either?
I believe that on the back of page 8, there is a declaration made in 1880 where he specifies that he is childless. But being already remarried, does he include potential children from his first marriage? | | |
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18 мая 2024 2:30 FuranNietchaieff написал: [q] oh and there is nothing concerning his death?
And nothing concerning potential children from his first marriage either?
I believe that on the back of page 8, there is a declaration made in 1880 where he specifies that he is childless. But being already remarried, does he include potential children from his first marriage?[/q]
According to the file at the time of drawing up the document, he did not have children. ф400 оп12 д8534 is all about of Nechaev's resignation. Therefore, there is no information about his death. There is information that after resignation he planned to live in Moscow. | | |
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18 мая 2024 2:37 18 мая 2024 2:43 >> Ответ на сообщение пользователя FuranNietchaieff от 17 мая 2024 22:31 Those questions you need to ask the person who sent it to you. I am like OlgaKob don't see correlations of these three documents with Nechaev. | | Лайк (1) |
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18 мая 2024 11:46 [q] According to the file at the time of drawing up the document, he did not have children.
ф400 оп12 д8534 is all about of Nechaev's resignation. Therefore, there is no information about his death. There is information that after resignation he planned to live in Moscow. [/q]
Unfortunate, I was really hoping to have a little more information on his place of death. According to his wife Maria, he died in 1918. In 1895, he was in Kaunas, Lithuania (birth town of his child). But between 1880-1895 and 1895-1918 I have nothing about his family. His son Mikhail and Maria moved to Radzymin during 1920 but I think he was already no longer in this world. However his son was a soldier during the first world war under the commandment of colonel Nikolaï Lokhvitsky, he left Moscow in 1916. Moscow might be a good guess. | | |
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18 мая 2024 11:47 [q] Those questions you need to ask the person who sent it to you. I am like OlgaKob don't see correlations of these three documents with Nechaev. [/q]
Okay, I'll get back in touch with the person and see what he can tell me on this subject. I'll keep you informed | | Лайк (1) |
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18 мая 2024 13:41 FuranNietchaieff написал: [q] Unfortunate, I was really hoping to have a little more information on his place of death.
According to his wife Maria, he died in 1918. In 1895, he was in Kaunas, Lithuania (birth town of his child). But between 1880-1895 and 1895-1918 I have nothing about his family. His son Mikhail and Maria moved to Radzymin during 1920 but I think he was already no longer in this world. However his son was a soldier during the first world war under the commandment of colonel Nikolaï Lokhvitsky, he left Moscow in 1916. Moscow might be a good guess.[/q]
No, Lochwicki entered the WWI in April 1915 when he became a brigade commander at the 25th infantry division, which in August-September of 1915 took part in the Vilno operation. But as soon as May 1915, he entered the 24th infantry division as a brigade commander. The division in 1915 took part in the operations in Poland and Western Belarus. Since May 1916 he took part in the operations in France (if you remember, Mikhail Grigoryevich Nechaev mentioned France). Since 1917 he was the commander of the 1st Special infantry division of the Russian troops in France. It also says that Lochwicki was the commander of the Russian base at Laval until July 1918. Only in 1919 Lochwicki returned to Russia (during the Civil war), he traveled via the North to Siberia to join Kolchak. So, possibly Mikhail Grigorievich could return to Poland (which was formerly part of the Russian Empire, actually) in July-August 1918. So, his father could die in either Vilno, or Kaunas, or Radzimin in Poland. I don't think they ever lived in Moscow since he had settled in Lithuania. Here are the sources on Lochwicki: ria1914.infoAn article on the 24th infantry divisionThe wiki page on the division | | Лайк (1) |
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18 мая 2024 13:49 FuranNietchaieff написал: [q] Would it be possible to obtain a translation of this page? I feel like it's talking about an injury or something medical related.
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It says that he was qualified for a pension from the general governmental treasury even though he hadn't served the full term, as he retired due to an illness. But he wasn't qualified for a pension from the Military infantry treasury since his illness wasn't on the list. It doesn't specify what kind of illness though. | | |
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18 мая 2024 16:04 >> Ответ на сообщение пользователя OlgaKob от 18 мая 2024 13:41 [q] Since May 1916 he took part in the operations in France (if you remember, Mikhail Grigoryevich Nechaev mentioned France).[/q]
Yes, this is exactly what I mean by "However his son was a soldier during the first world war under the commandment of colonel Nikolaï Lokhvitsky, he left Moscow in 1916". And the journey to reach France started from Moscow by train to Dalian then by boat to Marseille. [q] So, possibly Mikhail Grigorievich could return to Poland (which was formerly part of the Russian Empire, actually) in July-August 1918.[/q]
How to make sure it was Poland ? He was also a theater artist in Kiev, Ukraine [q] So, his father could die in either Vilno, or Kaunas, or Radzimin in Poland.
I don't think they ever lived in Moscow since he had settled in Lithuania.[/q]
For 1918, I already made a request and they found nothing. Obviously in the case where the year given by his wife is correct | | |
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