Gramps
Áåñïëàòíàÿ ìíîãîÿçû÷íàÿ îôëàéí ïðîãðàììà äëÿ ñèñòåì Windows, Linux, BSD, Solaris, macOS
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7 ìàðòà 2010 21:52 Ïðèâåòñòâóþ âñåõ! Ïîëüçóþñü GRAMPS 3.1.2-1 (Linux Fedora11) ïàðó ìåñÿöåâ. Íå óäåðæàëàñü è ââåëà â áàçó 150 ÷åëîâåê, òåïåðü îáðàòíîãî ïóòè íåò  Äî ýòîãî áàçà (ïåðâûå 150 ÷åëîâåê) áûëà â ïðîãðàììå genealogia.exe, óñïåøíî îòêîíâåðòèðîâàëà åå ÷åðåç gedcom (âðó÷íóþ îòêîíâåðòèðîâàíûé â utf8). Ïðîãðàììà î÷åíü íðàâèòñÿ. +îò÷åòû grafviz -î÷åíü êðàñèâî +óäîáíî ïå÷àòàòü ìíîãîñòðàíè÷íûå äåðåâüÿ ÷åðåç pdf +óäîáíî ñîõðàíÿòü äåðåâî â ãðàôè÷åñêèå ôîðìàòû (ïî èíòåðíåòó ðîäñòâåííèêàì ïîñëàòü) +ìíîæåñòâî ãîòîâûõ ïîëåçíûõ îò÷åòîâ (òåêñòîâàÿ ïîêîëåííàÿ ðîñïèñü â html, íàïðèìåð) Ê èíòåðôåéñó áûñòðî ïðèâûêàåøü, ââîäèòü 150 ÷åëîâåê áûëî óäîáíî. Ïîñëå genealogia.exe áûëî íåïðèâû÷íî, ÷òî â gramps êîãäà îòêðûâàåøü ïåðñîíó â ðåæèìå "Îòíîøåíèÿ" åå íåëüçÿ ñðàçó îòðåäàêòèðîâàòü, à íóæíî íàæèìàòü êíîïêó "ðåäàêòèðîâàíèå". Íî ýòî íîðìàëüíûé ïîäõîä - íè÷åãî ñëó÷àéíî íå îòðåäàêòèðóåøü ïðè ïåðåëèñòûâàíèè. Íó à òåïåðü íåïîíÿòíîñòè, ïðî êîòîðûå õî÷åòñÿ çàäàòü âîïðîñû. 1) Ìîÿ áàçà ýêñïîðòèðóåòñÿ â GEDCOM ñ îøèáêîé. Ãäå (â ëèíóêñå) íàéòè ëîã-ôàéë è óçíàòü â ÷åì îøèáêà? 2)Äëÿ êàæäîãî "ñîáûòèÿ" åñòü "èíôîðìàöèÿ îá èñòî÷íèêå" .  êàêîì ïîëå õðàíèòü ññûëêè íà àðõèâíûå äîêóìåíòû? (Çàäàâàÿ ýòîò âîïðîñ ÿ ïîäóìàëà è íàøëà îòâåò: âñþ ññûëêó öåëèêîì ïèñàòü â ïîëå "Òîì/ñòðàíèöà") 3) Êàêàÿ áàçà äàííûõ èñïîëüçóåòñÿ? Êàêàÿ-òî ñòàíäàðòíàÿ, èëè êàêàÿ-òî ñâîÿ. Åñëè íà áàçó äàííûõ ìîæíî áûëî áû âçãëÿíóòü åùå ÷åì-òî êðîìå ñàìîé ïðîãðàììû, òî áûëî áû ñïîêîéíåå çà ñîõðàííîñòü èíôîðìàöèè. 4)  êàêîì ïîëå ïèøåòå ïðè÷èíó ñìåðòè? 5) Ãäå â èíòåðíåòå íàõîäèòñÿ ñîîáùåñòâî ðóññêîÿçû÷íûõ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé gramps â êîòîðîì ìîæíî áûëî áû ïîáåñåäîâàòü ñ îïûòíûìè ïîëüçîâàòåëÿìè èëè ðàçðàáîò÷èêàìè? (ïîêà ÿ íàøëà åäèíñòâåííîå òàêîå ìåñòî - ÝÒÀ òåìà íà vgd.ru) | | |
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8 ìàðòà 2010 23:42 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Ñâåòëàíà, svetic íàïèñàë: [q] Íó à òåïåðü íåïîíÿòíîñòè, ïðî êîòîðûå õî÷åòñÿ çàäàòü âîïðîñû.
1) Ìîÿ áàçà ýêñïîðòèðóåòñÿ â GEDCOM ñ îøèáêîé. Ãäå (â ëèíóêñå) íàéòè ëîã-ôàéë è óçíàòü â ÷åì îøèáêà?
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Íå äóìàþ, ÷òî âàì íóæíà ïîëíàÿ îòëàäêà, êîòîðàÿ îïèñàíà â Logging system. Äîñòàòî÷íî çàïóñòèòü GRAMPS èç êîìàíäíîé ñòðîêè (òåðìèíàëà) è îáðàòíî â òåðìèíàë áóäóò âûâîäèòñÿ âñå îøèáêè. svetic íàïèñàë: [q] 2)Äëÿ êàæäîãî "ñîáûòèÿ" åñòü "èíôîðìàöèÿ îá èñòî÷íèêå" .  êàêîì ïîëå õðàíèòü ññûëêè íà àðõèâíûå äîêóìåíòû? (Çàäàâàÿ ýòîò âîïðîñ ÿ ïîäóìàëà è íàøëà îòâåò: âñþ ññûëêó öåëèêîì ïèñàòü â ïîëå "Òîì/ñòðàíèöà")
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ß ïîíèìàþ ñèñòåìó õðàíåíèÿ ññûëîê íà äîêóìåíòû â GRAMPS ñëåäóþùèì îáðàçîì: Õðàíèëèùà - ìåñòà ãäå õðàíÿòñÿ äîêóìåíòû, íàïðèìåð, Ãîñóäàðñòâåííûé àðõèâ ÐÔ, Wikipedia, ãàçåòà "Âåäîìîñòè". Èñòî÷íèêè - êíèãè, íîìåðà ãàçåò, ñòàòüè â õðàíèëèùàõ. Ññûëêà - èìåííî óêàçàíèå íà òîì è ñòðàíèöó, èëè æå öåëèêîì íà èñòî÷íèê. svetic íàïèñàë: [q] 3) Êàêàÿ áàçà äàííûõ èñïîëüçóåòñÿ? Êàêàÿ-òî ñòàíäàðòíàÿ, èëè êàêàÿ-òî ñâîÿ. Åñëè íà áàçó äàííûõ ìîæíî áûëî áû âçãëÿíóòü åùå ÷åì-òî êðîìå ñàìîé ïðîãðàììû, òî áûëî áû ñïîêîéíåå çà ñîõðàííîñòü èíôîðìàöèè.
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Ïðî ýòî åñòü ñòàòüÿ Database Formats. Åñëè êðàòêî, òî â GRAMPS èñïîëüçóåòñÿ Berkeley DB. Êàêîé-òî îòäåëüíûé ñîôò äëÿ âçàèìîäåéñòâèÿ ñ íåé ÿ íå çíàþ. Ëåòîì 2009 ãîäà ïûòàëèñü ââåñòè äîïîëíèòåëüíûé óðîâåíü àáñòðàêöèè, ÷òî áû áûëî âñå ðàâíî â êàêîé ÁÄ õðàíèòü äàííûå. Íî äåëî çàãëîõëî íà ñîãëàñîâàíèÿõ. À íà âûõîäå áûë òîëüêî plugin ExportSQL, íî ñåé÷àñ îí óäàëåí èç GRAMPS è åãî ñóäüáà ìíå íåèçâåñòíà. svetic íàïèñàë: [q] 4)  êàêîì ïîëå ïèøåòå ïðè÷èíó ñìåðòè?
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Íå ñìîòðÿ íà òî ÷òî GRAMPS ïîçèöèîíèðóåòñÿ êàê ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíàÿ ïðîãðàììà, èìåþùàÿ óíèâåðñàëüíûé ôîðìàò õðàíåíèÿ äàííûõ. Îíà âñå åùå íå äàëåêî óøëà îò GEDCOM. Åñëè ïîñìîòðåòü ñïèñîê òèïîâ ñîáûòèé - ýòî 100% êîïèÿ ñîáûòèé èç ñòàíäàðòà GEDCOM. Íàëè÷èå öåðêâè ÑÏÄ îò òóäà æå. Ïîýòîìó äëÿ "ïðè÷èíû ñìåðòè" ÿ äîáàâëÿþ ñîáûòèå ñ ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèì òèïîì, ïðè ýòîì äëÿ ÷åëîâåêà îñòàþòñÿ òàêèå ñîáûòèÿ êàê "ñìåðòü", "çàõîðîíåíèå". svetic íàïèñàë: [q] 5) Ãäå â èíòåðíåòå íàõîäèòñÿ ñîîáùåñòâî ðóññêîÿçû÷íûõ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé gramps â êîòîðîì ìîæíî áûëî áû ïîáåñåäîâàòü ñ îïûòíûìè ïîëüçîâàòåëÿìè èëè ðàçðàáîò÷èêàìè? (ïîêà ÿ íàøëà åäèíñòâåííîå òàêîå ìåñòî - ÝÒÀ òåìà íà vgd.ru)
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Ïîæàëóé, åñëè ñëîâî "ðóññêîÿçû÷íûé" âàæíî, òî òîëüêî òóò. À òàê íà àíãëèéñêîì ìîæíî çàäàòü ëþáîé âîïðîñ â ñïèñêå ðàññûëêè GRAMPS-users. | | |
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10 ìàðòà 2010 3:09 Yevgeny_, ñïàñèáî! Î÷åíü ïîìîãëè ñîðèåíòèðîâàòüñÿ. Êîãäà áûñòðî êòî-òî ïðèõîäèò íà ïîìîøü ñîçäàåòñÿ îùóùåíèå ñòàáèëüíîñòè è ìûñëè îá àëüòåðíàòèâíûõ ñïîñîáàõ áýêàïà ñòàíîâÿòñÿ íå òàêèìè ïàðàíîèäàëüíûìè | | |
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4 àïðåëÿ 2010 15:55Îáíîâëåíèå GRAMPS 15 ìàðòà 2010 ãîäà Âûøëî îáíîâëåíèå äëÿ GRAMPS GRAMPS 3.2.0 ("ß òâîé îòåö") Íîâàÿ âñòàâíàÿ ñèñòåìà New Plugin System *  Ìåíþ Ïîìîùè-> Ñòàòóñ Ìåíþ, âñå äîñòóïíûå ïëàãèíû âèäèìû. Âñå ïëàãèíû ìîãóò áûòü ñêðûòû, ýêîíîìÿ ðåñóðñû è ñêðûâàÿ âàðèàíòû, â êîòîðûõ Âû íå íóæäàåòåñü. Áûñòðåå Faster * Ïðîäåëàíû ìíîãèå óñîâåðøåíñòâîâàíèÿ, êîòîðûå äîëæíû óëó÷øèòü ðàáîòó. Íîâûå îñîáåííîñòè îñóùåñòâëåíû êàê ïëàãèíû, êîòîðûå ìîãóò áûòü ñêðûòû. * Ïðèìåð óñîâåðøåíñòâîâàíèÿ ðàáîòû: Âñòàâêà íîâîãî ÷åëîâåêà â ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîì äåðåâå ñ 30000 ÷åëîâåê ðàíåå çàíèìàëà 4 ñåêóíäû, íî òåïåðü áåðåò ìèëëèñåêóíäû. ( çàâèñèò îò âàøåãî PC  ) Íîâûå Ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ - New Views * Åñòü íîâûå ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ, è íåêîòîðûå ñóùåñòâóþùèå ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ áûëè î÷åíü óëó÷øåíû. * Ïðåäñòàâëåíèå ëþäåé ìîæåò òåïåðü áûòü ñîðòèðîâàíî íà êîëîíêàõ. * Ìåñòî treeview ïðèñóòñòâóåò, ïðèÿòíî ãðóïïèðóÿ âàøè ìåñòà ïîä ãðóïïàìè ñòðàíû. * GeoView óåçæàåò, ýòî - áåòà ñòàòóñ ïîçàäè è ïîêàçûâàåò Âàøè äàííûå ïî êàðòå îíëàéí (OpenStreetMap èëè Êàðòû Google, áûñòðîå ïîäêëþ÷åíèå ê èíòåðíåòó òðåáóåòñÿ) * Ìåíþ Ïîìîùè-> Äîïîëíèòåëüíûå Ñîîáùåíèÿ/Èíñòðóìåíòû îòêðûâàåò èíòåðíåò ñòðàíèöó ñ çàãðóæàåìûìè ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿìè. Äðóãèå Óñîâåðøåíñòâîâàíèÿ - Other Improvements * Ñòèëèçîâàííûå Ïðèìå÷àíèÿ òåïåðü â íàèáîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàíåííûõ ôîðìàòàõ. * Íîâûå ÿçûêè. * Âûáåðèòå ÿçûê, íà êîòîðîì ñîîáùåíèå åùå äîëæíî áûòü ñîçäàíî (äîñòóïíûé âî âñåõ ñîîáùåíèÿõ). áîëåå ïîäðîáíî ñìîòðåòü òóòñêà÷àòü òóò ---
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7 àïðåëÿ 2010 15:53 Ó ìåíÿ âîïðîñ â ñâÿçè ñ ïåðåíîñîì ñåìåéíîãî äåðåâà ñ Family Tree Builder 4.0.0.916 íà Gramps 3.2.0-1 Äåëî â íåïðàâèëüíîì îòîáðàæåíèè ðóññêèõ áóêâ â Gramps êîãäà îòêðûâàþ ãåäêîì ôàéë ýêñïîðòèðîâàííûé èç FTB. Ïîìîãèòå ñ ñîâåòîì ÷òî ïðåäïðèíÿòü, òàì ëþäåé ïî÷òè ÷åòûðåñòà âðó÷íóþ ïðàâèòü íà ëàòèíñêèå áóêâû íå óëûáàåòñÿ  | | |
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7 àïðåëÿ 2010 20:55 Ïî óìîë÷àíèþ â GRAMPS êîäèðîâêà UTF8 à â Family Tree Builder íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü êàêàÿ... Äàæå â ëèíóêñ âåðñèè òîæå ñàìîå, ùàñ ïîïðîáîâàë â GenoPro èç Family Tree Builder òîæå ñàìîå. Õîòÿ èíòåðåñíî ñ èõíåãî ñàéòà myheritage ýêñïîðòèðóåòñÿ ÷åðåç ged áåç ïðîáëåì.  Åñòü âàðèàíò ïåðåêîäèðîâêè ÷åðåç PAF 5.0 îáû÷íî ýòî ïîìîãàåò. 1, Family Tree Builder â ged 2. ged â Paf 5.0 3. èç Paf 5.0 â ged 4. ged â GRAMPS ï.ñ. Çàäàì âîïðîñ â GRAMPS ---
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7 àïðåëÿ 2010 21:20 Êîäèðîâêà Family Tree Builder 4.0.0.916 ANSI
â GRAMPS êîäèðîâêà UTF-8 ---
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23 àïðåëÿ 2010 21:17 Godo íàïèñàë: [q]
Ó ìåíÿ âîïðîñ â ñâÿçè ñ ïåðåíîñîì ñåìåéíîãî äåðåâà ñ Family Tree Builder 4.0.0.916 íà Gramps 3.2.0-1Äåëî â íåïðàâèëüíîì îòîáðàæåíèè ðóññêèõ áóêâ â Gramps êîãäà îòêðûâàþ ãåäêîì ôàéë ýêñïîðòèðîâàííûé èç FTB. Ïîìîãèòå ñ ñîâåòîì ÷òî ïðåäïðèíÿòü, òàì ëþäåé ïî÷òè ÷åòûðåñòà âðó÷íóþ ïðàâèòü íà ëàòèíñêèå áóêâû íå óëûáàåòñÿ [/q]
1.Ñîõðàíÿåì gedcom 2.Ìåíÿåì ó ôàéëà gedcom ðàçðåøåíèå ged íà txt Ïðèìåð : äðåâî.ged >>>> äðåâî.txt3.Îòêðûâàåì ïîëó÷åííûé ôàèë äðåâî.txt â òåêñòîâîì ðåäàêòîðå, ñ ïîääåðæêîé îïðåäåëåíèÿ êîäèðîâêè ( íàïðèìåð openoffice ) 4.Åñëè ïðè îòêðûòèå ôàéëà áûëî ïðåäëîæåíî âûáðàòü êîäèðîâêó, òî âûáåðåòå Êèðèëëèöà(windows-1251) 5.Ïîñëå îòêðûòèÿ ôàéëà, âû äîëæíû óâèäåòü ÷èòàåìûå èìåíà è ôàìèëèè ïåðñîí â êèðèëëè÷åñêèõ ñèìâîëàõ. 6. Ñîõðàíÿåì ôàéë â ðàñøèðåíèå txt, ïðè âûáîðå .Ìåíÿåì ó ôàéëà gedcom ðàñøèðåíèå ged íà txt , âûáèðàåì îáû÷íûé txt 7..Ìåíÿåì ó ôàéëà ðàñøèðåíèå íà ged Âîò âàøà áàçà ãîòîâà äëÿ èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ â Gramps ---
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23 àïðåëÿ 2010 21:28Îáíîâëåíèå GRAMPS 3.2.1 ("One of those men is my father") released.
2010.04.22
The Gramps Developers have released:
Version 3.2.1 of Gramps! The "One of those men is my father" release.
Many bug fixes:
fixed missing icons
load/reload plugins must unload old plugins
import/export fixes (date ranges, underscore, latitude/longitude)
narrative web crash fixes and many updates, html notes, css updates
geoview fixes and updates
unicode error in soundex
fixed crash on data entry
Translation updates: bg, ca, de, es, fr, he, hr, it, nb, nl, sk, sv ---
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8 èþëÿ 2010 19:51 Îáíîâëåíèå ïðîãðàììû The Gramps Developers released version 3.2.3 on Sunday May 16 2010. Highlights from the NEWS file are: * Bug fixes: o several GLADE fixes o several GEDCOM fixes (both export and import) o several crash fixes o encoding fix (Windows only) o privacy/living fixes o updates to NarrativeWeb and the css stylsheets * Translation updates: bg, ca, de, es, fr, he, nb, nl, pl, sk, sv https://sourceforge.net/projects/gramps/files/ ---
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