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Ñóùåñòâóåò íåìåöêàÿ ôàìèëèÿ - Gatz
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íåìåöêîå îáîçíà÷åíèå ïîëüñêîãî "Gać" (Gatz, Kreis Stolp/Pommern) | | |
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21 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 9:44 De-Vi-Se91 íàïèñàë: [q] Ñóùåñòâóåò íåìåöêàÿ ôàìèëèÿ - Gatz[/q]
Ìîæåò, îò Gat(t) n -(e)s, -en è -s 1) ìîð. êîðìà 2) (óçêèé) ïðîõîä; îòâåðñòèå, äûðà; ìîð. óçêèé ïðîëèâ èëè gatten1. vt ñîåäèíÿòü; ñïàðèâàòü 2. (sich) 1) ñîåäèíÿòüñÿ; ñïàðèâàòüñÿ 2) ñî÷åòàòüñÿ áðàêîì ANNELI GATZ - International Genealogical Index / CE Gender: Female Christening: 07 DEC 1637 Hausen Am Albis, Zurich, Switzerland Anna Maria Gatz - International Genealogical Index / CE Gender: Female Birth: 17 DEC 1692 Ilfurth,Haut-Rhin, , Alsace-Lorraine Province, France ELISABETH GATZ - International Genealogical Index / SW Gender: Female Marriage: 24 MAY 1768 Jakob Och Johannes, Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden ---
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21 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 9:48 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, ïîäñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà, ÷òî ìîæåò îçíà÷àòü ôàìèëèÿ Øåïåð (Scheper). Îíà ëèáî àâñòðèéñêàÿ (íåìåöêàÿ), ëèáî âåíãåðñêàÿ. Ïîêà áîëüøå ñêëîíÿþñü ê âåíãåðñêîé âåðñèè, íî íå íà 100%. Âîò ÷òî íàøëà: ôàìèëèÿ Scheper èìååò íåìåöêîå ïðîèñõîæäåíèå. À ïîëó÷åíà ôàìèëèÿ îò íåìåöêîãî òåðìèíà "schaffaere", ÷òî îçíà÷àåò ìåíåäæåð èëè ñòþàðä äîìàøíåãî õîçÿéñòâà. Âîçìîæíî ïåðåâîä íå òî÷íûé. Ìîæåòå ñàìè ïîñìîòðåòü http://www.houseofnames.com/Scheper-history?A=54323-292Êàêèå ó âàñ âåðñèè? Ñïàñèáî. | | |
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21 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 10:33 21 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 10:35 Nilly íàïèñàë: [q] ÷òî ìîæåò îçíà÷àòü ôàìèëèÿ Øåïåð (Scheper).[/q]
Åñëè îò ãëàãîëà scheppern vi þ.-íåì. ïîñòóêèâàòü, ñòó÷àòü, äðåáåçæàòü, ïîáðÿêèâàòü Nilly íàïèñàë: [q] . À ïîëó÷åíà ôàìèëèÿ îò íåìåöêîãî òåðìèíà "schaffaere",[/q]
Õîðîøî áû åù¸ íàïèñàòü, ÷òî îçíà÷àåò ýòîò òåðìèí, ìîæåò áûòü ñâÿçàíî ñ Schaffner m -s, = 1) êîíäóêòîð; ïðîâîäíèê (ïàññàæèðñêîãî âàãîíà) 2) óñò. óïðàâëÿþùèé Schaff n -(e)s, -e 1) ÷àí 2) þ.-íåì. øêàô 3) áàâàðñêèé ÷åòâåðèê (ñòàðèííàÿ ìåðà çåðíà) ---
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21 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 11:11 Nilly íàïèñàë: [q] Îíà ëèáî àâñòðèéñêàÿ (íåìåöêàÿ), ëèáî âåíãåðñêàÿ. Ïîêà áîëüøå ñêëîíÿþñü ê âåíãåðñêîé âåðñèè, íî íå íà 100%. Âîò ÷òî íàøëà: ôàìèëèÿ Scheper èìååò íåìåöêîå
ïðîèñõîæäåíèå. À ïîëó÷åíà ôàìèëèÿ îò íåìåöêîãî òåðìèíà "schaffaere",[/q]
Øåïåðîâ â Ãåðìàíèè áîëåå 1200 è ïî÷òè âñå ïðîæèâàþò íà ñåâåðî-çàïàäå ñòðàíû. http://www.verwandt.de/karten/absolut/scheper.html Àâñòðèè âñåãî 2 ÷åëîâåêà è îáà â Âåíå. Òàê ÷òî ïðîèñõîæäåíèå íóæíî èñêàòü èëè â ñåâåðî-çàïàäíûõ íåìåöêèõ äèàëåêòàõ, ëèáî â ñîñåäíèõ, ôðèçñêîì èëè ãîëëàíäñêîì ÿçûêàõ.  Íèäåðëàíäàõ åñòü: Scheper - 1845 Schepers - 5831 Scheeper - 183 Scheepers - 2740 | | |
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21 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 11:43 Geo Z íàïèñàë: [q] Â Íèäåðëàíäàõ åñòü:
Scheper - 1845[/q]
Äàæå â Íèäåðëàíäàõ íàïèñàíèå ôàìèëèè íåìåöêîå, äóìàþ íåìåöêîå ïðîèñõîæäåíèå. À ñêîëüêî â Ãåðìàíèè Sche pper? 349? Åñòü è â Øâåéöàðèè è äàæå 19 â Ïîëüøå, êñòàòè, òàì Scheper âñåãî 1. Øåïåð Àëüôðåä Ìèõàéëîâè÷ (1887,Ëàòâèÿ---1937) ëàòûø, Øåïåð Âëàäèìèð Ìèõàéëîâè÷ (1876,Ëàòâèÿ---1937) ëàòûø, Øåïåð Ýäóàðä Ìèõàéëîâè÷ (1884,Ëàòâèÿ---1938) ëàòûø, Øåïåðîâ Ëåîíèä Àíäðååâè÷ (ßðîñë. îáë.,Áîðèñîãëåáñêèé ð-í---1944.06.22,†Êàðåëüñêèé ïåðåøååê.) ñåðæàíò  Âåë.Îòå÷. âîéíó ïîãèá. Ìåñòî ñìåðòè, çàõîðîíåíèÿ, ïåðåçàõîðîíåíèÿ Êàðåëüñêèé ïåðåøååê. [ÊÏßÎ, òîì 2, ñòð. 188.] ---
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21 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 12:46 Stan_is_love íàïèñàë: [q] Äàæå â Íèäåðëàíäàõ íàïèñàíèå ôàìèëèè íåìåöêîå, äóìàþ íåìåöêîå ïðîèñõîæäåíèå.[/q]
Ãîëëàíäñêèé ÿçûê, äîâîëüíî áëèçîê íèæíå-íåìåöêèì äèàëåêòàì. Áûëî âðåìÿ ÷òî äàæå ñ÷èòàëñÿ äèàëåêòîì íåìåöêîãî. Íèæíåíåìåöêèé ÿçûê (íèæíåíåìåöêèå äèàëåêòû, íèæíåñàêñîíñêèé; ñàìîíàçâ. Nederdüütsch, Plattdüütsch, Plautdietsch; íåì. Niederdeutsch, Plattdeutsch) — ãåðìàíñêèé ÿçûê íà ñåâåðå Ãåðìàíèè è ñåâåðî-âîñòîêå Íèäåðëàíäîâ. Îòíîñèòñÿ ê çàïàäíîãåðìàíñêîé ãðóïïå ãåðìàíñêîé âåòâè èíäîåâðîïåéñêèõ ÿçûêîâ. Ôîíåòè÷åñêè ñèëüíî îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò ëèòåðàòóðíîãî íåìåöêîãî ÿçûêà (âåðõíåíåìåöêîãî), îäíàêî áëèçîê íèäåðëàíäñêîìó ÿçûêó (ïîñëåäíèé èíîãäà âêëþ÷àåòñÿ â åãî ñîñòàâ).
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21 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 20:30 =marinna= íàïèñàë: [q]
Nilly íàïèñàë:[q]
÷òî ìîæåò îçíà÷àòü ôàìèëèÿ Øåïåð (Scheper) [/q]
Ñåâåðíûé íåìåöêèé è íèäåðëàíäñêèé: ñðåäíèé ãîëëàíäñêèé, ñðåäíèé íèæíåíåìåöêèé schēper 'ïàñòóõ'.
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Dutch: occupational name for a tailor, from Middle Dutch scheper ‘maker’. ---
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