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Ýòíè÷åñêèå íåìöû, à òàêæå ãðàæäàíå (ïîääàííûå) ãåðìàíñêèõ ãîñóäàðñòâ, ïðîæèâàâøèå íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèè
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Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1018
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Âëàäèêàâêàç, ÐÑÎ-Àëàíèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7835
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Ðåéòèíã: 1421
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5 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 22:17 lemurperschinÍà óêàçàííîì ôîðóìå http://wolgadeutschen.fastbb.ru/ ýòà òåìà ìíîþ óæå áûëà îòêðûòà è îáñóæäàëàñü. Ðåçóëüòàò îáñóæäåíèé ÿ èçëîæèëà 4 ôåâðàëÿ. Íîâîãî äîáàâèòü ïîêà íå÷åãî. | | |
Topor Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 278 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2005 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 51 | Íàâåðõ ##
6 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 12:57 6 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 13:58 lemur íàïèñàë(à): [q] à âåäü çà ñòî ëåò ( ó ìåíÿ ñâåäåíèÿ íà 1860-å) ìîãëè ðàçúåõàòüñÿ êòî-êóäà.[/q]
Áîëåå òîãî, â 1847–1864 ãã. ïðîèçîøëî ïåðåñåëåíèå îêîëî îäíîé òðåòè êîëîíèñòîâ íà âûäåëåííûå çåìëè è îáðàçîâàíèå íîâûõ êîëîíèé. Âñåãî â ýòî âðåìÿ áûëà îñíîâàíà 61 êîëîíèÿ , â òîì ÷èñëå â Ïðàâîáåðåæüå Âîëãè (Êàìûøèíñêèé óåçä) – 11 (Îáåðäîðô, Ðîçåíáåðã, Ýðëåíáàõ è äð.), â Ëåâîáåðåæüå ( Íîâîóçåíñêèé óåçä) – 50 (Ãíàäåíôëþð, Çèõåëüáåðã, Øåíòàëü, Ðîçåíôåëüä, Øòðåêêåðàó, Ëàíãåíôåëüä, Ýêãåéì, Ìîðãåòàó, Êàíî, Ýðåíôåëüä è äð). ---
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| Gelmut Íîâè÷îê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4 | Íàâåðõ ##
6 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 18:10!! Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î ñâîèõ ïðåäêàõ êîëîíèñòîâ ñ Ïîëîæüÿ ïî ôàìèëèè Ãðåá.
Ãðåá Èðìà Ôðèäðèõîâíà 1931 ã.ðîæäåíèÿ Ñàðàòîâñêîé îáëàñòè Ðîâåíñêîãî (çåëüìàíîâñêîãî) ðàéîíà ñåëî Ëóãîâîå(Ëóãîâñêîå).Åñòü èíôîðìàöèÿ î ðîäèòåëÿõ,Îòåö Ãðåá Ôðèäðèõ Ãåîðã, ìàòü Ãðåá Àìàëèÿ Ñåáàñòüÿí. Êòîíèáóòü ìîæåò ïîìî÷ â ìîèõ ïîèñêàõ? áóäó î÷åíü áëàãîäàðåí... | | |
ToporÌîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 278 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2005 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 51 | Íàâåðõ ##
6 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 23:49 6 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 23:50 Gelmut íå Âàøè? http://www.ahsgr.org/gedlist.htm ýìèãðèðîâàâøèå îäíîôàìèëüöû Greb - âîçìîæíî Âàøè ðîäñòâåííèêè: Greb, Amalia Greb, Amelia Mollie Greb, Carl Greb, Edvina Greb, Elizabeth Marie Greb, Emma Greb, Emma * 15 Nov 1913 * Leader + 31 Mar 1988 + Portland Greb, Fred Greb, Fred Greb, Friedrich Fred * 24 Mar 1864 + 30 Aug 1946 + Okeene Greb, George Greb, Gertrude Greb, Hannah Greb, Heinrich Peter * 21 Oct 1875 * Mueller + 24 Apr 1949 + Bay City Greb, Henry Greb, Johann Peter * Abt 16 Jun * Mueller + 2 Feb 1897 Greb, Karen Greb, Katherina Charlotte * 1 Feb 1865 * Wiesenmueller Greb, Katherine Greb, Laura Martha Greb, Martha * 12 Oct 1926 * Portland + 26 Jan 1942 + Portland Greb, Mary Greb, Pete + 9 Apr 1969 Greb, Peter Greb, Peter * 12 Dec 1840 Greb, Reinhardt * 17 Jun 1875 + 9 Jul 1941 + Ft Morgan Greb, Reinhart * Russia Greb, Reinhart * 24 Jul 1915 * Leader + 17 Aug 1988 + Salem Greb, Reinhart * 27 Sep 1885 * Mueller + 3 Dec 1944 + Portland Greb, Richard Reinhart Greb, Robert Alan Greb, Sam Greb, Sophie * 26 Feb 1903 * Mueller + 24 Jan 1959 + Harrow Íà ñàéòå http://odessa3.org/search.html åñòü Greb ñ Âîëãè, ïðè÷åì Kraft âðîäå êàê âîëæñêàÿ êîëîíèÿ Greb, Alexander 1875 Wiesmueller A3342-EWZ50-C029 1566 Greb, Franziska 1865 Czernowitz, Geb. Rumaenien A3342-EWZ50-C029 1508 geb. Manz Greb, Friedrich 17 Feb 1901 Friedenstal, Geb. Odessa A3342-EWZ50-C029 1530 Greb, Friedrich 17 Feb 1921 Blumenfeld, Geb. Wolgadeutsch A3342-EWZ50-C029 1552 Greb, Georg 1872 Wiesmueller A3342-EWZ50-C029 1530 Greb, Georg 1880 ? A3342-EWZ50-C029 1552 Greb, Jakob 1861 Czernowitz, Geb. Rumaenien A3342-EWZ50-C029 1508 Greb, Johann 10 Mar 1880 Minsk, Geb. Minsk A3342-EWZ50-C029 1508 Greb, Jurie 17 Apr 1935 1b Jost A3342-EWZ50-C029 1566 Greb, Konstanin 16 Jul 1912 1b Kukus A3342-EWZ50-C029 1566 Greb, Maria 1884 Kraft A3342-EWZ50-C029 1552 geb. Schmidt Greb, Maria 1886 Eckheim A3342-EWZ50-C029 1566 geb. Maus Greb, Wilhelmine 20 Feb 1912 Seelmann A3342-EWZ50-C029 1566 geb. Arndt Greb, Wladimir 6 Mar 1937 1b Jost A3342-EWZ50-C029 1566 Johannes, Antonie 2 Jan 1905 Czernowitz, Geb. Rumaenien A3342-EWZ50-C029 1508 geb. Greb Ïî ïîñëåäíåìó ñàéòó ïûòàþñü äàòü ïîäðîáíûå ðàçúÿñíåíèÿ âîò çäåñü - https://forum.vgd.ru/158/16691/ ---
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| Gelmut Íîâè÷îê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4 | Íàâåðõ ##
7 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 1:29! DAVedenin ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå !! âàçìîæíî ìîè,óòî÷íèòü íàäî!!! | | |
lemur Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 137 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 31 | Íàâåðõ ##
7 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 7:21 DAVedenin äà... , òàêîå óâåëè÷åíèå ÷èñëà êîëîíèé âíîñèò äîïîëíèòåëüíûå ñëîæíîñòè â ïîèñêè :( À âû íå çíàåòå ñëó÷àéíî ìîæåò áûòü ñóùåñòâóþò ñïèñêè ñåìåé ïåðåñåëèâøèõñÿ â íîâûå êîëîíèè. Âåäü êàê-òî ýòîò ïðîöåññ äîëæåí áûë ðåãóëèðîâàòüñÿ âëàñòÿìè è ó÷èòûâàòüñÿ äâèæåíèå íàñåëåíèÿ. ?? ---
Èùó : Ëîáîäèíûõ (Ëîáîäà), Äåêñíèñ, Ýðíñò; ïîòîìêîâ Ëÿïóíîâûõ è Êðàâöîâûõ - âñå èç Íàëü÷èêà ÊÁÐ,
Ðîãàíîâûõ, Óëüÿíîâûõ, Íèêîëàåâûõ, Çàõàðîâûõ, Êàïëåíêîâûõ - Ñìîëåíñêàÿ îáë.
Ðàçóâàåâûõ, Çâîíàðåâûõ - Êàëóæñêàÿ îáë. | | |
ToporÌîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 278 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2005 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 51 | Íàâåðõ ##
8 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 20:42 lemur óâû, ïðî òàêèå ñïèñêè íå ñëûøàë. ---
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ToporÌîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 278 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2005 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 51 | Íàâåðõ ##
8 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 21:10  ñìûñëå, ïðîöåññ, êîíå÷íî ðåãóëèðîâàëñÿ è ãäå-òî åñòü ñïèñêè ïåðåñåëåíöåâ(ñêîðåå âñåãî â Ñàðàòîâå). Íî î êàêèõ-òî îáùèõ ñïèñêàõ ÿ íå ñëûøàë. Ãäå-òî ïîïàäàëîñü, ÷òî â íîâûå – «äî÷åðíèå» êîëîíèè åõàëè ñî âñåõ óãîëêîâ Ðîññèè.  îáùåì, Âàì íàäî â àðõèâ, êîíå÷íî, òàì ïîìîãóò. ---
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lemurÌîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 137 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 31 | Íàâåðõ ##
8 ôåâðàëÿ 2008 21:22 DAVedenin äà åñëè áû ó ìåíÿ áûëà âîçìîæíîñòü ïîåõàòü â àðõèâ, ÿ áû íàâåðíîå âàñ òóò íå ìó÷èëà  Êñòàòè ÷èòàëà òóò, ÷òî â Ñàðàòîâñêîì àðõèâå íå î÷åíü ëþáÿò òåõ, êòî çàíèìàåòñÿ ãåíåàëîãèåé, òàê ëè ýòî ? ìîæåò êòî-íèáóäü ïîäåëèòñÿ ëè÷íûì îïûòîì ? ---
Èùó : Ëîáîäèíûõ (Ëîáîäà), Äåêñíèñ, Ýðíñò; ïîòîìêîâ Ëÿïóíîâûõ è Êðàâöîâûõ - âñå èç Íàëü÷èêà ÊÁÐ,
Ðîãàíîâûõ, Óëüÿíîâûõ, Íèêîëàåâûõ, Çàõàðîâûõ, Êàïëåíêîâûõ - Ñìîëåíñêàÿ îáë.
Ðàçóâàåâûõ, Çâîíàðåâûõ - Êàëóæñêàÿ îáë. | | |
| Jannett Íîâè÷îê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
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9 ìàðòà 2008 18:50 9 ìàðòà 2008 18:56Èùó ðîäñòâåííèêîâ Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î ñâîèõ ïðåäêàõ, êîëîíèñòîâ ñ Ïîâîëæüÿ, èëè èõ äåòåé, âíóêîâ.
Èìÿ: Àäîëüô Ñîììåð, Èîãàíí Ñîììåð
Ðîäèòåëè: ìàòü - Ôëîðåíòèíà Ñîììåð (â äåâè÷åñòâå Áåêêåð, èç Âàðøàâû), îòåö - Èîãàíí Ïåòåð Ñîììåð (èìåë ìåëüíèöû).
Ïðîæèâàëè äî 1925ã. â Áðàáàíäåð Ñàìàðñêîé ãóáåðíèè, íûíå Êîçèöêàÿ (ñ. Êîçèöêîå) Ñàðàòîâñêîé îáëàñòè.
À òàêæå äâîþðîäíûõ áðàòüåâ Àäîëüôà è Èîãàííà: Ýäóàðä (áûë õóäîæíèêîì, çàêîí÷èë õóä. ó÷èëèùå), Âàíÿ (Èîãàíí?) ïðèõðàìûâàë, áûë ïîðòíûì. Èëè èõ äåòåé, âíóêîâ. Ïðîæèâàëè â 1925-27ãã. â Ñàðàòîâå
Ðîäíàÿ ñåñòðà Èîãàííà Ïåòåðà Ñîììåðà ïðîæèâàëà â ã. Áàêó. Åå ìóæ áûë êàïèòàíîì ïàðîõîäà.
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