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Íèæíèé Òàãèë Ñîîáùåíèé: 426 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 258 | Ââåðõ #3 àâãóñòà 2016 8:34 Êñòàòè, ìîæåò Íóêîâíà ýòî ïëîõî ïðîèòàííîå Èöèêîâíà? Òîãäà è Èñàêîâíà - ëîãè÷íàÿ ðóñèôèàöèÿ. --- Äîáðîâèíñêèé, Åïèøåâ, Êèðèëëîâ, Þðêîâ, Ñèíàéêî, Êîëîäÿæ(ø)íûé, Òèòîâ | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 487 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 150 | Ââåðõ #3 àâãóñòà 2016 19:08 MikhailB íàïèñàë: [q] Ïîõîæå íà òî, ÷òî ýòîò ëèñòîê çàïîëíÿë ðîäíîé áðàò ìîåé áàáóøêè, îí óåõàë â Àìåðèêó â Áðóêëèí, ýòî òî÷íî. À ïî îò÷åñòâó êîíå÷íî âñ¸ çàïóòàííî ïî ïàñïîðòó îíà áûëà óæå Èñàêîâíà. À â ñâèäåòåëüñòâå î áðàêå ñ äåäóøêîé, áàáóøêèíî îò÷åñòâî íå ðàçîáðàòü òî ëè Íóêîâíà òî ëè Ïóêîâíà.[/q] Åñëè ýòî ðîäíîé áðàò áàáóøêè, òî: - åãî îò÷åñòâî Íóõèìîâè÷, îò÷åñòâî áàáóøêè äîëæíî áûòü òàêèì æå, òî åñòü Íóõèìîâíà; - ëèñò çàïîëíåí íà èõ ìàòü, òî åñòü íà Âàøó ïðàáàáóøêó: - â ëèñòå óêàçàí Âàø ïðàäåä: Íóõèì Ãîëüäåíøòåéí: - â ëèñòå óêàçàíû Âàøè ïðàïðàäåä Èîñèô è ïðàïðàáàáóøêà Áðàíà. Íî ñìóùàåò âîçðàñò ïðàáàáóøêè âî âðåìÿ ðîæäåíèÿ áàáóøêè - 15 ëåò. Õîòÿ, â ãîäàõ ðîæäåíèÿ ìîãóò áûòü îøèáêè. | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 3 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 4 | Ââåðõ #11 àâãóñòà 2016 21:08 Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Ïðîøó ïîìîùè â ïîèñêå äàííûõ î ìîèõ, ïðàáàáóøêå ×åðíÿâñêîàÿ Îëüãà ßêîâëåâíà 1902ã.ð., åå áðàòüÿ ×åðíÿâñêèé Ïàâåë ßêîâëåâè÷ 1891ã.ð. è ×åðíÿâñêèé Ñàìóèë ßêîâëåâè÷ îêîëî 1895ã.ð.. Îëüãà ðîäèëàñü Ìîãèëåâñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ, Ìñòèñëàâñêèé óåçä. Ïîõîðîíåíà â ÐÁ ã.Ïèíñê Ïàâåë ðîäèëñÿ Ìîãèëåâñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ, ã. Ïðîïîéñê (ñåé÷àñ Ñëàâãîðîä), ïîõîðîíåí â ÑÏÁ, Ïðèîáðàæåíñêîå. Ñàìóèë â òîéæå ãóáåðíèè. Ìåñòî çàõîðîíåíèÿ íåèçâåñòíî. (äî÷ü ðàññòðåëÿëè â Ìñòèñëàâëå â 1941). Ìåòðè÷åñêèõ êíèã â ÐÁ ïî äàííîìó óåçäó íå ñîõðàíèëîñü. --- Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î ôàìèëèÿõ: ×åðíÿâñêàÿ, ×åðíÿâñêèé. Ìñòèñëàâñêèé óåçä. Ñèëêîâ, Ñèëêîâà Ìñòèñëàâñêèé óåçä ä. Áðàêîâî. Èîíèí, Èîíèíà ãîðîä Àíæåðî-Ñóæåíñê. | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 6 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 8 | Ââåðõ #21 àâãóñòà 2016 1:01 îáðàùàåìñÿ, ìîæíî ñêàçàòü) ÷åðåç ãîñïîðòàë ñäåëàëè çàïðîñ ïðèøåë îòâåòèëè, ÷òî îòïðàâèëè çàïðîñ ïî íàçíà÷åíèþ(( óæå áîëüøå ìåñÿöà òèøèíà. Åñòü íàäåæäà, ÷òî âñå ðîäèâøèåñÿ â 1915 ãîäó íàõîäÿòñÿ â îäíîì àðõèâå. Íî ïîõîæå â Òàøêåíòå îá ýòîì íå çíàþò)) --- Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î Ãàåâñêèõ èç ä.Ëÿäû è Áîëüøèå Íåãíîâè÷è. | | |
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èæåâñê Ñîîáùåíèé: 1 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2 | Ââåðõ #27 àâãóñòà 2016 17:47 ìåíÿ çîâóò äìèòðèåâ ðîìàí îëåãîâè÷ 20.07.84 ã.ð., ã. Óñòü-êàìåíîãîðñê, âîñòî÷íûé êàçàõñòàí, ìîè ðîäèòåëè Äìèòðèåâà (Çàâàëüêî) Òàòüÿíà Àëåêñååâíà11.01.1953 ã.ð. è îòåö Äìèòðèåâ Îëåã Àëåêñàíäðîâè÷ 16.09.1959 ã.ð., ñåëî Ãëóáîêîå, Êàçàõñòàí, ìîÿ áàáóøêà ïî ìàìå Çàâàëüêî (Íàçàðîâà) Âàëåíòèíà Ïàâëîâíà 12.01.1927 ã.ð, è äåä ïî ìàìå Çàâàëüêî Àëåêñåé Àíòîíîâè÷ 03.03.1925 ã.ð., ÿ èùó åñòü ëè ó ìåíÿ åâðåéñêèå êîðíè? ïî ëèíèè îòöà íè÷åãî íå çíàþ --- äìèòðèåâ | | |
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Âîïðîñ - íè î ÷åì. Ïî óêàçàííûì Âàìè äàííûì íåò íè ìàëåéøåãî íàìåêà íà åâðåéñêèå êîðíè. | | |
| Eva7284 | Ââåðõ #8 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2016 21:45 Äîáðûé âå÷åð! Ïîìîãèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà , ñîâåòîì êóäà îáðàòèòüñÿ çà ïîìîùüþ â ðîçûñêå ìåòðè÷åñêèõ äàííûõ äëÿ ïîäòâåðæäåíèÿ åâðåéñêèõ êîðíåé. Ìîé äåäóøêà Äóáðîâñêèé Ñåìåí Çèíîâüåâè÷ ðîä.  ã. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêå , Óêðàèíà, ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ íå èçâåñòåí , áûë åâðååì, äîêóìåíòàëüíîå ïîäòâåðæäåíèå - ñâèäåòåëüñòâå î ðîæäåíèè, êîòîðîå, ê ñîæàëåíèþ , óòåðÿíî. Áûë æåíàò íà áàáóøêå - Çàéöåâîé Ãàëèíå Èâàíîâíå (ïðåäïîëîæèòåëüíî òîæå åâðåéêå).  áðàêå áûë ðîæäåí ìîé îòåö Äóáðîâñêèé Àëåêñàíäð Ñåìåíîâè÷ 1945 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ. Îí ïî äîêóìåíòàì çíà÷èòñÿ óæå ðóññêèì. | | |
BertaLÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ñîîáùåíèé: 340 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2012 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 516 | Ââåðõ #9 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2016 12:10 Eva7284 Íàäî èñêàòü ïî çàãñàì è àðõèâàì äîêóìåíòû ïî öåïî÷êå - íà÷íèòå ñî ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î ñìåðòè, ãäå áóäåò óêàçàí âîçðàñò è, âîçìîæíî, ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ. Òàêæå, åñëè äåä âîåâàë - ïîèùèòå åãî íà ïîäâèãíàðîäà.ðó.
Íà ôîðóìå åñòü òåìû äëÿ íîâè÷êîâ, ïî÷èòàéòå ïîëåçíûé ìàòåðèàë. --- Ëîìàçîâ - Çîëîòîíîøà, Êàíåâ
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BaruchÍîâè÷îê  Ñîîáùåíèé: 9 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 5 | Ââåðõ #13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2016 10:12 13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2016 10:26 Èùåì ïîòîìêîâ ×èãèðèíñêîãî ðàâà Íàõìàíà Ãîëüäøòåéíà ("×èðèíåð ðîâ").
Goldstein, Reb Nachman [of Tcherin] (b.?-d.1894). Ðàáè Íàõìàí Ãîëüäøòåéí (×èãèðèíñêèé ðàâ).
Known affectionately and reverently as the Tcheriner Rav, Reb Nachman was the son of Reb Zvi Aryeh of Breslov. His father's father, Reb Aharon, was the Chief Rabbi in Breslov in Rebbe Nachman's time. In fact, the Rebbe said that he invoked his ancestral merits in order to bring Reb Aharon - whose clarity in rendering halakhic decisions was unparalleled - to Breslov. An erudite scholar even as a young boy, Reb Nachman, who grew up in Breslov, shied away from Reb Noson in his early years. Reb Noson once called him over and said, "You know, it's very possible that Rebbe Nachman used his ancestral merits to bring your grandfather to Breslov only because of YOU." After Reb Noson passed away, the Tcheriner Rav regretted having distanced himself from Reb Noson and he became very involved with Reb Noson's works. He published the Likutey Etzot HaMeshulash, the expanded Likutey Etzot (Advice) and collected Reb Noson's teachings in the Likutey Halakhot on all the same topics which appear in the earlier work. He also was the first to begin writing a commentary specifically on Rebbe Nachman's works, thereby making these complex tomes somewhat more accessible to the layman. His personal level of scholarship defies description. Known as a matmid (diligent in Torah study), he often remained awake all night while immersed in study. As Rabbi of Tcherin, he was always being invited to weddings by the local residents, though he did not always go. Once, his attendant decided not to pass on the invitation since he knew that the Rav in any case, was not going to attend. When he discovered this, Reb Nachman was upset. "Whenever I receive an invitation to a wedding, I know that I'm not going to get any sleep that night (he would always only sleep till midnight and then rise to study Torah until morning). So, even if I don't go to the wedding, I stay up throughout the night studying. By not giving me the invitation, you 'cheated' me out of a full night of Torah!" After writing his commentary Yekara DeShabbata, explaining the holiness of Shabbat as perceived in each lesson of the Likutey Moharan, the Tcheriner Rav said that he could no longer sleep on Shabbat. He said, "Someone who keeps Shabbat is known as a shomer Shabbat (shomer means watchman or guard). Everyone knows that it is forbidden for a watchman to sleep on the job! How then can I sleep on Shabbat?!" A younger contemporary of Reb Nachman Chazan, the Tcheriner Rav was highly respected and honored by the Breslover Chassidim. He, together with Reb Avraham Ber, Rebbe Nachman's grandson, was responsible for Reb Avraham Sternhartz being appointed prayer leader for the Rosh HaShannah prayers. Still, when making the pilgrimage to Uman for Rosh HaShannah, he would not expect or allow any preferential treatment because of stature. "In Uman, we are all alike," he said. "When I set out for the Rosh HaShannah kibutz, I leave behind my rabbinical status and authority." All told, he authored about twenty books, several of which were only seen by Breslover Chassidim in manuscript form before they were lost. Of his major works that remain with us are the Parparaot LeChokhmah on Likutey Moharan, Rimzey Maasiot on Rabbi Nachrnan's Stories and the source references for the Sefer HaMiddot. He also compiled a two-volume collection of teachings on various topics from the Baal Shem Tov and his major disciples, entitled Leshon Chassidim and Derekh Chassidim.
íà ôîòî: ã. ×èãèðèí (Óêðàèíà). Ìåñòî ïîãðåáåíèÿ ðàâà Íàõìàíà Ãîëüäøòåéíà.
 --- Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î Ãîëüäøòåéí, Êî(à)ïåëüíèêîâûõ, Óõîâñêèõ, Ñåíäåðîâûõ, Ëèòè÷åâñêèõ, Íàëåâèíûõ. Èùåì ñâåäåíèÿ è ïîòîìêîâ ×èãèðèíñêîãî ðàâà Íàõìàíà Ãîëüäøòåéíà ("×èðèíåð ðîâ"). | | |
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