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Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
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Äàà, ó Âàñ ýòî âûãëÿäèò íåñêîëüêî èíà÷å, ÷åì ó ìåíÿ... 101.gif
ß ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî ìîé ìóæ - êðàéíèé âíèçó ñïðàâà, à ÿ ñòðîãî íàä íèì â öåíòðå òîëïû (ïðèáë. íà ñàíòèìåòð ïîâûøå - ïðàâåå (ïàðäîí, ËÅÂÅÅ) êðàéíåãî ëåâîãî ãîëóáåíüêîãî êâàäðàòèêà, ïðÿìî ïîä íèì - íå ïðÿìî ïîä íèì, à ËÅÂÅÅ, íî ÷óòü íèæå åãî).
Ëàäíî, âîò, ãëÿäèøü, îòçîâóòñÿ ÌàêÄîíàëä è Ëåîí, áóäåò ÷åì ïîäåëèòüñÿ.
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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
Yulita
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà
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Yulita

Êèåâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3376
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1807
Êàòÿ, ìàÿêíèòå, ïëèç, êîãäà çàïîëíèòå îïðîñíèê ïî ïðåäêàì è àêêàóíòû ñäåëàåòå îòêðûòûìè, ÿ ïîïðîáóþ äàííûå îáíîâèòü è ïðîãíàòü íà äðóãîì ðåñóðñå, âäðóã, ÷òî èíòåðåñíîå ïîêàæåò.
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Þëÿ, âðîäå ÿ ïîëíîñòüþ îòêðûëàñü - âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àå, ãàëî÷êè ïîñòàâèëà. Ïðàâäà, ïðè ýòîì íè÷åãî òèïà "ñîõðàíèòü óñòàíîâêè" íå íàøëà, à ïîñåìó è íå íàæèìàëà.
Ìåæäó ïðî÷èì, ó ìåíÿ â Global Similarity äîñòóïíû âñå, ñ êåì ÿ "çàøàðåíà". ß ÷àé, ó Âàñ òîæå. Âû âûáåðèòå ìåíÿ â îêîøå÷êå, òîãäà â Âàøåé êó÷êå çåëåíåíüêîé áóäåòå íå Âû, à ÿ.
Íèæíÿÿ ñòðåëî÷êà - ìóæ, âåðõíÿÿ ñòðåëî÷êà - íå ÿ. ß ãäå-òî â êó÷å ÏÎÄ îòìå÷åííûì ÷åëîâåêîì (â ñìûñëå ïðèêðûòà èì).

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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
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Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
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Óðà! Ïðèñëàë îòâåòû ÌàêÄîíàëä! yahoo.gif Ýòî ÿ

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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
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Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
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Ýòî ìóæ

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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
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Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
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Êîììåíòàðèé ÌÄ:

Catherine:
the program says 70% Western European (Irish/Orkney/France) and the rest Eastern European (Russian/Chuvash/ Finnish). The spot on the map, which is the average of those, is in the ocean off Denmark, 40 miles wsw of Ringkobing.
The little non-Euro blocks on the chromosomes are likely coming in through the eastern components, and not through recent admixture.

Sergey:
The program says, quite clearly, 100% Irish, with a really good fit. The spot on the map is Dublin. However, with your name that seems unlikely. And the next best fit turns out to be Belorus. It is sometimes hard to tell those apart. Belorus is a good fit, just not quite as good as Ireland. The relative probabilities of a good fit are 93% and 84% respectively, so you see with your name Belorus seems more likely.

The chromosomes are typical of there. The non-Euro blocks on them are very weak .. a small bias makes them look Euro.

Ýòî ÿ

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Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
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Ýòî ìóæ - 100%íûé èðëàíäåö îí ó ìåíÿ, îêàçûâàåòñÿ shok.gif À ÿ-òî äóìàëà, ÷òî ýòî ÿ áåëîðóñêà dntknw.gif

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Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
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Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
Yulita
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Yulita

Êèåâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3376
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1807
Âèäèìî, îíè ÷òî-òî èçìåíèëè, ïîñêîëüêó ðàíüøå ÿ íå ìîãëà âûáðàòü íèêîãî äðóãîãî, âåðíåå, äàæå ïðè ñìåíå âûáîðà, îñòàâàëèñü äàííûå ëèáî ïî ìíå, ëèáî ïî ìîåé ñåìüå.
Âîò Âàøè ðåçóëüòàòû, îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå, Âû ðàñïîëîæèëèñü ñðåäè ïîëÿêîâ è óêðàèíöåâ, à Ñåðãåé òîëüêî ñðåäè ïîëÿêîâ:
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Yulita
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Yulita

Êèåâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3376
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1807

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Äàê è ÿ ïðî òî æå! ß òóò òàêàÿ âñÿ èç ñåáÿ áåëîðóñêà, à ìîé 100%íî óêðàèíåö-ìóæ îêàçûâàåòñÿ áÎëüøèì áåëîðóñîì, ÷åì ÿ dntknw.gif Âîò, ïåðåâàðèâàþ...
Áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî çà êàðòèíêè! Íå ïðèøëåòå ëè Âû ìíå ïàðó èìåí Âàøèõ øåðèíã-ïàðòíåðîâ èç ìîåãî (è ìóæà) îêðóæåíèÿ?
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Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
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