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Âëàäèêàâêàç, ÐÑÎ-Àëàíèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7835
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Íàøåë ó Àðîëñåíà âîò òàêîé äîêóìåíò.
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Õîðîøàÿ íàõîäêà, ïîçäðàâëÿþ!
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Êàðàé÷åâ, Êàðàè÷åâ, Êàðàãè÷åâ, Êàðêà÷ - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Ðåâî, Ðåâà, Ðåââî, Ðåââà - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Çâîíàðåâû - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Gogin10

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Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ çà êà÷åñòâî èçîáðàæåíèÿ
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Èñòî÷íèê â èíòåðíåòå? Ñìîæåòå àëüòåðíàòèâó ðàçìåñòèòü?
Ñú¸ìêà ëèáî ñ íåïîäõîäÿùåãî ðàññòîÿíèÿ, ëèáî íàäî àïïàðàò äðóãîé áû ïðèìåíèòü ñ ìèíèìóì 8 -13 MP.
Ëàéê (1)
sokolovachumak

Ìîñêîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü
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Gogin10 íàïèñàë:
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sokolovachumak íàïèñàë:
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Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ çà êà÷åñòâî èçîáðàæåíèÿ
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Èñòî÷íèê â èíòåðíåòå? Ñìîæåòå àëüòåðíàòèâó ðàçìåñòèòü?
Ñú¸ìêà ëèáî ñ íåïîäõîäÿùåãî ðàññòîÿíèÿ, ëèáî íàäî àïïàðàò äðóãîé áû ïðèìåíèòü ñ ìèíèìóì 8 -13 MP.
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Ê ñîæàëåíèþ òàêîãî êà÷åñòâà ïðèñëàëè ñ àðõèâà Arolsen

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Ìåëüíèêîâ, Êîðîòååâ, Ãîëîùàïîâ, Îáðàçöîâ (Îðëîâñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ, Åëåöêèé óåçä) , ×óìàê, Ñèìåîíòêîâñêèé(Ñåìåíòêîâñêèé), Áîêùàíèí, Ëÿñîòà (Ëÿñîòîâ), , Äåëèêîâñêèé(Âîëûíñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ ) , Äûáëÿ, Òåðòû÷åíêî (ÎÂÄ)
Gogin10

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Ê ñîæàëåíèþ òàêîãî êà÷åñòâà ïðèñëàëè
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Íè÷åãî ñòðàøíîãî, ïðî÷èòàåì. Òóò ëó÷øå âèäíî.
Íà ïåðâûé âçãëÿä êàê Âû íàïèñàëè, íàçâàíèÿ ïîäõîäÿò, îäíîçíà÷íî ïåðâûé ëàãåðü è âòîðîé óêàçàí. Ïîòîì åù¸ íàäî ïîñìîòðåòü íåñêîëüêî ðàç.

À ðàçâå íè÷åãî áîëüøå íå ïðèñûëàëè ?
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Sipsikiarch

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Íàøåë ó Àðîëñåíà âîò òàêîé äîêóìåíò.
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Õîðîøàÿ íàõîäêà, ïîçäðàâëÿþ!
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Ñïàñèáî. Ñàì íå î÷åíü îæèäàë. Íàïèñàíèå ôàìèëèè âñòðå÷àåòñÿ ñàìîå ðàçíîå Schockhoff, Schockoff. Schokhoff âáèë ïî÷òè ñëó÷àéíî.
Êñòàòè, íèêòî ïîäîáíûõ äîêóìåíòîâ íå âñòðå÷àë ðàíåå? Ïðàâèëüíî ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ýòî âûïèñêà (êàê áû ýòî íàçâàòü?), â íûíåøíèõ ôîðìóëèðîâêàõ - èíàãåíòîâ, ÷òî ëè. Ðàç óæ íàøëîñü â Àðîëñåíå.


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Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î:
×åðíîâûõ, Êàðåëüñêèõ (ä. Îáðàçöîâî Áðîííèöêîãî óåçäà Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóá.);
Ïàõîìîâûõ, Ãðèøèíûõ, Äåìåøåâûõ (Ñîáîëåâñêàÿ âîëîñòü Ïðîíñêîãî óåçäà Ðÿçàíñêîé ãóá.);
Êóëàêîâûõ, Íèêîëàåâûõ, Ïåíÿãèíûõ (ñ. Âèøíåâîå, ä. Ôðîëîâêà Êîçëîâñêîãî óåçäà Òàìáîâñêîé ãóá.);
Enman, Pander, Brunn
Ampel

Âëàäèêàâêàç, ÐÑÎ-Àëàíèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7835
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2007 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1421

Sipsikiarch íàïèñàë:
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èíîãåíòîâ
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Ïî÷åìó?
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Êàðàé÷åâ, Êàðàè÷åâ, Êàðàãè÷åâ, Êàðêà÷ - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Ðåâî, Ðåâà, Ðåââî, Ðåââà - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Çâîíàðåâû - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Sipsikiarch

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Íà ñàéòå ñ 2019 ã.
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èíîãåíòîâ
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Ïî÷åìó?
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Ýòîò àðõèâ âîîáùå, íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ñïåöèàëèçèðóåòñÿ íà äîêóìåíòàõ æåðòâ ôàøèçìà, à êðîìå òîãî ó äîêóìåíòà âîò òàêàÿ ïðåàìáóëà:
"2 Registration of Foreigners and German Persecutees by Public Institutions, Social Securities and Companies (1939 - 1947) / 2.1 Implementation of Allied Forces’ Orders on Listing all Foreigners and German Persecutees, and Related Documents / 2.1.2 British Zone of Occupation in Germany /
2.1.2.1 Lists of all persons of United Nations and other foreigners, German Jews and stateless persons; British Zone /"

Íó, è, êðîìå òîãî, ÿ íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü, ïî÷åìó, âðîäå áû íåìåöêàÿ ñåìüÿ, ïîñëå âûòåñíåíèÿ èç Ýñòîíèè îêàçûâàåòñÿ ãäå óãîäíî: â Ïîëüøå, Äàíèè, Àâñòðàëèè, íî íå â Ãåðìàíèè.
Åâðåéñêèõ êîðíåé ÿ íå âèæó. Âðîäå áû âñå ëþòåðàíå â ñòîëüêèõ ïîêîëåíèÿõ, íàñêîëüêî ãëóáîêî ìîæíî íàéòè â ýñòîíñêèõ àðõèâàõ.
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Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î:
×åðíîâûõ, Êàðåëüñêèõ (ä. Îáðàçöîâî Áðîííèöêîãî óåçäà Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóá.);
Ïàõîìîâûõ, Ãðèøèíûõ, Äåìåøåâûõ (Ñîáîëåâñêàÿ âîëîñòü Ïðîíñêîãî óåçäà Ðÿçàíñêîé ãóá.);
Êóëàêîâûõ, Íèêîëàåâûõ, Ïåíÿãèíûõ (ñ. Âèøíåâîå, ä. Ôðîëîâêà Êîçëîâñêîãî óåçäà Òàìáîâñêîé ãóá.);
Enman, Pander, Brunn
Ampel

Âëàäèêàâêàç, ÐÑÎ-Àëàíèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7835
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2007 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1421

Sipsikiarch íàïèñàë:
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ÿ íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü, ïî÷åìó, âðîäå áû íåìåöêàÿ ñåìüÿ, ïîñëå âûòåñíåíèÿ èç Ýñòîíèè îêàçûâàåòñÿ ãäå óãîäíî: â Ïîëüøå, Äàíèè, Àâñòðàëèè, íî íå â Ãåðìàíèè.
Åâðåéñêèõ êîðíåé ÿ íå âèæó. Âðîäå áû âñå ëþòåðàíå â ñòîëüêèõ ïîêîëåíèÿõ, íàñêîëüêî ãëóáîêî ìîæíî íàéòè â ýñòîíñêèõ àðõèâàõ.
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Íó, òóò âåäü íå áûëî åäèíîãî ïðàâèëà. Ó êàæäîãî áûëà ñâîÿ èñòîðèÿ, ñâîè îáñòîÿòåëüñòâà, íàì íå èçâåñòíûå. Ïîýòîìó óäèâëÿòüñÿ íå ñòîèò.

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Êàðàé÷åâ, Êàðàè÷åâ, Êàðàãè÷åâ, Êàðêà÷ - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Ðåâî, Ðåâà, Ðåââî, Ðåââà - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Çâîíàðåâû - Âëàäèêàâêàç
sokolovachumak

Ìîñêîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü
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Sipsikiarch

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Sipsikiarch íàïèñàë:
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ÿ íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü, ïî÷åìó, âðîäå áû íåìåöêàÿ ñåìüÿ, ïîñëå âûòåñíåíèÿ èç Ýñòîíèè îêàçûâàåòñÿ ãäå óãîäíî: â Ïîëüøå, Äàíèè, Àâñòðàëèè, íî íå â Ãåðìàíèè.
Åâðåéñêèõ êîðíåé ÿ íå âèæó. Âðîäå áû âñå ëþòåðàíå â ñòîëüêèõ ïîêîëåíèÿõ, íàñêîëüêî ãëóáîêî ìîæíî íàéòè â ýñòîíñêèõ àðõèâàõ.
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Íó, òóò âåäü íå áûëî åäèíîãî ïðàâèëà. Ó êàæäîãî áûëà ñâîÿ èñòîðèÿ, ñâîè îáñòîÿòåëüñòâà, íàì íå èçâåñòíûå. Ïîýòîìó óäèâëÿòüñÿ íå ñòîèò.

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Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î:
×åðíîâûõ, Êàðåëüñêèõ (ä. Îáðàçöîâî Áðîííèöêîãî óåçäà Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóá.);
Ïàõîìîâûõ, Ãðèøèíûõ, Äåìåøåâûõ (Ñîáîëåâñêàÿ âîëîñòü Ïðîíñêîãî óåçäà Ðÿçàíñêîé ãóá.);
Êóëàêîâûõ, Íèêîëàåâûõ, Ïåíÿãèíûõ (ñ. Âèøíåâîå, ä. Ôðîëîâêà Êîçëîâñêîãî óåçäà Òàìáîâñêîé ãóá.);
Enman, Pander, Brunn
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