ÏÐÎØÓ ïîìîùè ïî ïåðåâîäó ñ íåìåöêîãî
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4 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 16:11 Sipsikiarch íàïèñàë: [q] Íàøåë ó Àðîëñåíà âîò òàêîé äîêóìåíò.[/q]
Õîðîøàÿ íàõîäêà, ïîçäðàâëÿþ! --- Êàðàé÷åâ, Êàðàè÷åâ, Êàðàãè÷åâ, Êàðêà÷ - Âëàäèêàâêàç
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4 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 16:54 sokolovachumak íàïèñàë: [q] Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ çà êà÷åñòâî èçîáðàæåíèÿ[/q]
Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Èñòî÷íèê â èíòåðíåòå? Ñìîæåòå àëüòåðíàòèâó ðàçìåñòèòü? Ñú¸ìêà ëèáî ñ íåïîäõîäÿùåãî ðàññòîÿíèÿ, ëèáî íàäî àïïàðàò äðóãîé áû ïðèìåíèòü ñ ìèíèìóì 8 -13 MP. | | Ëàéê (1) |
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4 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 18:28 Gogin10 íàïèñàë: [q] sokolovachumak íàïèñàë:
[q] Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ çà êà÷åñòâî èçîáðàæåíèÿ
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Èñòî÷íèê â èíòåðíåòå? Ñìîæåòå àëüòåðíàòèâó ðàçìåñòèòü? Ñú¸ìêà ëèáî ñ íåïîäõîäÿùåãî ðàññòîÿíèÿ, ëèáî íàäî àïïàðàò äðóãîé áû ïðèìåíèòü ñ ìèíèìóì 8 -13 MP.
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Ê ñîæàëåíèþ òàêîãî êà÷åñòâà ïðèñëàëè ñ àðõèâà Arolsen
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4 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 21:07 5 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 0:11 sokolovachumak íàïèñàë: [q] Ê ñîæàëåíèþ òàêîãî êà÷åñòâà ïðèñëàëè[/q]
Íè÷åãî ñòðàøíîãî, ïðî÷èòàåì. Òóò ëó÷øå âèäíî. Íà ïåðâûé âçãëÿä êàê Âû íàïèñàëè, íàçâàíèÿ ïîäõîäÿò, îäíîçíà÷íî ïåðâûé ëàãåðü è âòîðîé óêàçàí. Ïîòîì åù¸ íàäî ïîñìîòðåòü íåñêîëüêî ðàç. À ðàçâå íè÷åãî áîëüøå íå ïðèñûëàëè ? | | Ëàéê (1) |
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4 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 22:09 4 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 22:51 Ampel íàïèñàë: [q] Sipsikiarch íàïèñàë:
[q] Íàøåë ó Àðîëñåíà âîò òàêîé äîêóìåíò.
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Õîðîøàÿ íàõîäêà, ïîçäðàâëÿþ![/q]
Ñïàñèáî. Ñàì íå î÷åíü îæèäàë. Íàïèñàíèå ôàìèëèè âñòðå÷àåòñÿ ñàìîå ðàçíîå Schockhoff, Schockoff. Schokhoff âáèë ïî÷òè ñëó÷àéíî. Êñòàòè, íèêòî ïîäîáíûõ äîêóìåíòîâ íå âñòðå÷àë ðàíåå? Ïðàâèëüíî ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ýòî âûïèñêà (êàê áû ýòî íàçâàòü?), â íûíåøíèõ ôîðìóëèðîâêàõ - èíàãåíòîâ, ÷òî ëè. Ðàç óæ íàøëîñü â Àðîëñåíå. --- Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î:
×åðíîâûõ, Êàðåëüñêèõ (ä. Îáðàçöîâî Áðîííèöêîãî óåçäà Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóá.);
Ïàõîìîâûõ, Ãðèøèíûõ, Äåìåøåâûõ (Ñîáîëåâñêàÿ âîëîñòü Ïðîíñêîãî óåçäà Ðÿçàíñêîé ãóá.);
Êóëàêîâûõ, Íèêîëàåâûõ, Ïåíÿãèíûõ (ñ. Âèøíåâîå, ä. Ôðîëîâêà Êîçëîâñêîãî óåçäà Òàìáîâñêîé ãóá.);
Enman, Pander, Brunn | | |
| Ampel Âëàäèêàâêàç, ÐÑÎ-Àëàíèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 7835 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2007 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1421
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4 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 22:38 Sipsikiarch íàïèñàë: [q] èíîãåíòîâ[/q]
Ïî÷åìó? --- Êàðàé÷åâ, Êàðàè÷åâ, Êàðàãè÷åâ, Êàðêà÷ - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Ðåâî, Ðåâà, Ðåââî, Ðåââà - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Çâîíàðåâû - Âëàäèêàâêàç | | |
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4 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 22:51 4 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 22:55 Ampel íàïèñàë: [q] Sipsikiarch íàïèñàë:
[q] èíîãåíòîâ
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Ïî÷åìó?[/q]
Ýòîò àðõèâ âîîáùå, íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ñïåöèàëèçèðóåòñÿ íà äîêóìåíòàõ æåðòâ ôàøèçìà, à êðîìå òîãî ó äîêóìåíòà âîò òàêàÿ ïðåàìáóëà: "2 Registration of Foreigners and German Persecutees by Public Institutions, Social Securities and Companies (1939 - 1947) / 2.1 Implementation of Allied Forces’ Orders on Listing all Foreigners and German Persecutees, and Related Documents / 2.1.2 British Zone of Occupation in Germany / 2.1.2.1 Lists of all persons of United Nations and other foreigners, German Jews and stateless persons; British Zone /" Íó, è, êðîìå òîãî, ÿ íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü, ïî÷åìó, âðîäå áû íåìåöêàÿ ñåìüÿ, ïîñëå âûòåñíåíèÿ èç Ýñòîíèè îêàçûâàåòñÿ ãäå óãîäíî: â Ïîëüøå, Äàíèè, Àâñòðàëèè, íî íå â Ãåðìàíèè. Åâðåéñêèõ êîðíåé ÿ íå âèæó. Âðîäå áû âñå ëþòåðàíå â ñòîëüêèõ ïîêîëåíèÿõ, íàñêîëüêî ãëóáîêî ìîæíî íàéòè â ýñòîíñêèõ àðõèâàõ. --- Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î:
×åðíîâûõ, Êàðåëüñêèõ (ä. Îáðàçöîâî Áðîííèöêîãî óåçäà Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóá.);
Ïàõîìîâûõ, Ãðèøèíûõ, Äåìåøåâûõ (Ñîáîëåâñêàÿ âîëîñòü Ïðîíñêîãî óåçäà Ðÿçàíñêîé ãóá.);
Êóëàêîâûõ, Íèêîëàåâûõ, Ïåíÿãèíûõ (ñ. Âèøíåâîå, ä. Ôðîëîâêà Êîçëîâñêîãî óåçäà Òàìáîâñêîé ãóá.);
Enman, Pander, Brunn | | |
| Ampel Âëàäèêàâêàç, ÐÑÎ-Àëàíèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 7835 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2007 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1421
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5 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 10:29 Sipsikiarch íàïèñàë: [q] ÿ íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü, ïî÷åìó, âðîäå áû íåìåöêàÿ ñåìüÿ, ïîñëå âûòåñíåíèÿ èç Ýñòîíèè îêàçûâàåòñÿ ãäå óãîäíî: â Ïîëüøå, Äàíèè, Àâñòðàëèè, íî íå â Ãåðìàíèè. Åâðåéñêèõ êîðíåé ÿ íå âèæó. Âðîäå áû âñå ëþòåðàíå â ñòîëüêèõ ïîêîëåíèÿõ, íàñêîëüêî ãëóáîêî ìîæíî íàéòè â ýñòîíñêèõ àðõèâàõ.[/q]
Íó, òóò âåäü íå áûëî åäèíîãî ïðàâèëà. Ó êàæäîãî áûëà ñâîÿ èñòîðèÿ, ñâîè îáñòîÿòåëüñòâà, íàì íå èçâåñòíûå. Ïîýòîìó óäèâëÿòüñÿ íå ñòîèò. --- Êàðàé÷åâ, Êàðàè÷åâ, Êàðàãè÷åâ, Êàðêà÷ - Âëàäèêàâêàç
Ðåâî, Ðåâà, Ðåââî, Ðåââà - Âëàäèêàâêàç
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5 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 10:56 5 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 10:57
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5 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 10:57 Ampel íàïèñàë: [q] Sipsikiarch íàïèñàë:
[q] ÿ íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü, ïî÷åìó, âðîäå áû íåìåöêàÿ ñåìüÿ, ïîñëå âûòåñíåíèÿ èç Ýñòîíèè îêàçûâàåòñÿ ãäå óãîäíî: â Ïîëüøå, Äàíèè, Àâñòðàëèè, íî íå â Ãåðìàíèè. Åâðåéñêèõ êîðíåé ÿ íå âèæó. Âðîäå áû âñå ëþòåðàíå â ñòîëüêèõ ïîêîëåíèÿõ, íàñêîëüêî ãëóáîêî ìîæíî íàéòè â ýñòîíñêèõ àðõèâàõ.
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Íó, òóò âåäü íå áûëî åäèíîãî ïðàâèëà. Ó êàæäîãî áûëà ñâîÿ èñòîðèÿ, ñâîè îáñòîÿòåëüñòâà, íàì íå èçâåñòíûå. Ïîýòîìó óäèâëÿòüñÿ íå ñòîèò.
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Âîò è ïûòàþñü â íèõ ðàçîáðàòüñÿ --- Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î:
×åðíîâûõ, Êàðåëüñêèõ (ä. Îáðàçöîâî Áðîííèöêîãî óåçäà Ìîñêîâñêîé ãóá.);
Ïàõîìîâûõ, Ãðèøèíûõ, Äåìåøåâûõ (Ñîáîëåâñêàÿ âîëîñòü Ïðîíñêîãî óåçäà Ðÿçàíñêîé ãóá.);
Êóëàêîâûõ, Íèêîëàåâûõ, Ïåíÿãèíûõ (ñ. Âèøíåâîå, ä. Ôðîëîâêà Êîçëîâñêîãî óåçäà Òàìáîâñêîé ãóá.);
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