Ìàðòûíîâ (Martinoff)
Îáùàÿ òåìà
TatianaLGNNÌîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà ÂÃÄ äàðèò óäî÷êó. Ðûáó ëîâèòü äîëæíû âû ñàìè  Íèæíèé Íîâãîðîä Ñîîáùåíèé: 25698 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 7972 | Íàâåðõ ##
3 èþëÿ 2006 8:42 F. Martinoff Ðàäà ïðèâåòñòâîâàòü Âàñ íà ôîðóìå. Ìîëîäåö. Åñëè ÷òî ïèøèòå, ïîìîæåì êàê ìîæåì.
Êñòàòè ïðàâèëüíî ïî ðóñêè Âàøà ôàìèëèÿ áóäåò ÌÀÐÒÛÍÎÂ ---
Óâàæàåìûå äðóçüÿ, âíîâü ïðèøåäøèå íà ôîðóì. Î÷åíü ïðîøó, ïðåæäå ÷åì çàäàòü ìíå âîïðîñ â ëè÷êó, íó ïî÷èòàéòå íåìíîãî ôîðóì.È ïîòîì ìîè çíàíèÿ ðàñïðîñòðàíÿþòñÿ íå íà âñþ áûâøóþ Ðîññèéñêóþ èìïåðèþ, à â îñíîâíîì íà Íèæåãîðîäñêóþ ãóáåðíèþ.
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F. Martinoff Ñîîáùåíèé: 247 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 15 | Íàâåðõ ##
3 èþëÿ 2006 9:58 Hello Tatiana,
Thank you for your welcome and for your help.
Yes you are correct:
The Family Name is ÌÀÐÒÛÍÎÂ,
but since the Baltic Region was ruled by so many Nations,
and they wrote the Names as they heard it.
I have found different variations, sometimes up to eight different
variations for one and the same person.
So far I found:
The most common variations are:
ÌÀÐÒÛÍÎÂ
MARTINOFF
MARTINOW
Less common variations are:
ÌÀÐÒÛÍÎÂI
Ìàðòüÿíîâ
Martinovs
Martinov
Martinhoff
Martynov
Martinnow
Martynhoff
Martynoff
Martinof
Martynof
Ìàðòèíîôôz
and some I can not identify.
All this for my Family
I know this makes it difficult for me,
But I still hope somebody can help.
Best regards,
F. Martinoff
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F. MartinoffÑîîáùåíèé: 247 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 15 | Íàâåðõ ##
3 èþëÿ 2006 21:31 Ïðèâåò Êàæäûé, ÿ íàäåþñü,
÷òî Âû ìîæåòå ïðî÷èòàòü ýòîò òðàíëýéøí.
Ýòà êàðòèíà äàåò ìíå ãîëîâíóþ áîëü ñ äîëãîãî âðåìåíè. Ëþáîé çíàåò, êàêàÿ Óíèôîðìà ýòî? ß íå äóìàþ, ÷òî ýòî - âîåííàÿ óíèôîðìà. ß íå çíàþ äàòó êàðòèíû òàêæå. ß òàêæå íå ìîãó ïðî÷èòàòü íàçâàíèå ãîðîäà, êîòîðûì ýòî áûëî ñäåëàíî. Ïîæàëóéñòà ïîìîãèòå.
Íàèëó÷øèå ïîæåëàíèÿ,
Ôðàíê Ìàðòèíîôô
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Nikola Ýñòîíèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 6207 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3106 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 èþëÿ 2006 0:25 4 èþëÿ 2006 1:20 F. MartinoffYour assumption correct. On the man uniform of the engineer. The city of Simferopol, is Crimea. Probably uniform of the mountain engineer. the pursuits(nearby 4 see in the width) officials have received the civil sample in 1867 in connection with demilitarization of special cases of mountain engineers, engineers of means of communication, wood, boundary and cable departments. On June, 2nd, 1869 under the order of emperor humeral the pursuits signs on distinction of grades were cancelled also were transferred on collars of uniforms, uniforms and the gold laces valves of frock coats. Collar valves looked like reduced the pursuits. With 1876 for 1894 the pursuits that were cancelled, were entered. The final form of clothes has affirmed to the end of 1904. The full text: http://geg.chem.usu.ru/tagil_museum/FOTO03.HTMExcuse, translation through the automatic translator ---
Áàð÷àíû, Øàïîâàëîâû, Áðàæíèê (Óêðàèíà), Ëàðþøèíû, Âîðîíèíû (Ðÿçàíñêàÿ îáë.) | | |
NikolaÝñòîíèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 6207 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3106 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 èþëÿ 2006 0:37 4 èþëÿ 2006 0:40 ---
Áàð÷àíû, Øàïîâàëîâû, Áðàæíèê (Óêðàèíà), Ëàðþøèíû, Âîðîíèíû (Ðÿçàíñêàÿ îáë.) | | |
F. MartinoffÑîîáùåíèé: 247 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 15 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 èþëÿ 2006 1:47 Hello Nikola, Thank you very much for the information, based on the emblems on the shoulder can you tell the year this picture was made? Or the Rank he had? I also found this interesting web page, which might be helpfull to some of you. Ïðèâåò Íèêîëàà, áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî çà èíôîðìàöèþ, îñíîâàííóþ íà ýìáëåìàõ íà ïëå÷å, Âû ìîæåòå ñêàçàòü ãîäó ýòó êàðòèíó, áûë ñäåëàí? Èëè Ðàçðÿä îí èìåë? ß òàêæå íàøåë ýòó èíòåðåñíóþ âåá-ñòðàíèöó, êîòîðàÿ ìîãëà áû áûòü õåëïôàëë ê íåêîòîðûì èç Âàñ. http://www.pugoviza.ru/files/c...amp;fn=igiBest regards, F. Martinoff | | |
F. MartinoffÑîîáùåíèé: 247 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 15 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 èþëÿ 2006 1:55 This a map where my Family had their homes in the year 1880,
some had 2 or 3 in the same time.
With the main residence in Riga.
Friedrich Johann had a house in
Riga - Arco/Italy - Paris/France
Nicolai
Had a house in:
Riga and Nice/Nizza/France
This might help you understand how difficult it was for me to
get to the year 1741
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F. MartinoffÑîîáùåíèé: 247 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 15 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 èþëÿ 2006 1:57 Ýòî êàðòà, ãäå ìîÿ Ñåìüÿ èìåëà èõ äîìà â ãîäó 1880, íåêîòîðûå èìåëè 2 èëè 3 â òî æå ñàìîå âðåìÿ. Ñ ãëàâíûì ìåñòîì æèòåëüñòâà â Ðèãå. Ôðèäðèõ Éîõàí èìåë äîì â Ðèãå - Àðêî/èòýëè - Ïàðèæå/Ôðàíöèè, â êîòîðîì Íèêîëýé Èìåë äîì: Ðèãà è Íèñå/íèççà/ôðàíñ, êîòîðûé Ýòî ìîãëî áû ïîìî÷ü Âàì ïîíèìàòü, íàñêîëüêî òðóäíûé ýòî áûëî äëÿ ìåíÿ, ÷òîáû ïîëó÷èòü ê ãîäó 1741 ìåíÿ òàêæå, íàøëè ýòó èíòåðåñíóþ âåá-ñòðàíèöó, êîòîðàÿ ìîãëà áû áûòü õåëïôàëë ê íåêîòîðûì èç Âàñ. | | |
NikolaÝñòîíèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 6207 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3106 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 èþëÿ 2006 10:29 4 èþëÿ 2006 13:13 F. MartinoffI am not the expert on history of uniforms. This everything, that it was possible to find in the Internet. Even the statement, that the man the mine engineer - take under doubt. Here many the present experts. Can be we shall wait their opinion... It is difficult to understand discharge, examining photograph. The uniform is not visible completely. Law on February 27,1834. it generalized the prevailing practice of the formulation of civil uniforms and for the first time brought together all these uniforms to the common system with the general order of the designation of the ranks of posts.For the majority of departments the ten-digit gradation of posts (fixed in lists of staff) to which there corresponded sewing on a smart uniform has been entered.
2-nd category had no sewing on seams; 3-rd lost also sewing under a collar (on boards and floors at 2-nd and 3-rd categories the width of sewing was reduced); 4-th category had sewing only on a collar, cuffs and pocket valves; 5-th - only on a collar and cuffs; 6-th had in the same place incomplete (in half of length) sewing; 7-th - incomplete sewing on a collar and sewn an edging on cuffs; 8-th had no edging on cuffs; 9-th had sewn edgings on a collar and cuffs; 10-th - only an edging on a collar.http://militera.lib.ru/research/shepelev1/03.htmlHaving increased a button in a photo, it is possible to assume (under your reference), that a uniform concerns approximately to 1903. By your map, interests of your ancestors extended and to Estonia. Similar, that there the cities of Tallinns, Tartu and island Saaremaa. ---
Áàð÷àíû, Øàïîâàëîâû, Áðàæíèê (Óêðàèíà), Ëàðþøèíû, Âîðîíèíû (Ðÿçàíñêàÿ îáë.) | | |
NikolaÝñòîíèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 6207 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3106 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 èþëÿ 2006 15:21 F. MartinoffYour photo approaches under the description: ÊÎËËÅÆÑÊÈÉ ÑÎÂÅÒÍÈÊ
http://geg.chem.usu.ru/tagil_museum/officials.htmThe COLLEGIATE ADVISER VI class of MILLERS À.Å., (1904-1905) In 1890th years was operating N.Tagilskimi factories, the mountain engineer. The HISTORICAL INFORMATION: In Russia a civil grade of VI-th class. Borrowed average supervising posts - the chief of branch or the clerk in the central establishments. The TITLE: yours highly nobleness. A title which was appropriated to officials of VI-VIII-th classes. The ARMY GRADE: the Colonel. The DESCRIPTION: The official is represented in a double-breasted frock coat. On a collar velvet buttonholes with two gleams without asterisks and an emblem of mountain department.Only presence of signs on shoulders specifies an accessory to engineers. ---
Áàð÷àíû, Øàïîâàëîâû, Áðàæíèê (Óêðàèíà), Ëàðþøèíû, Âîðîíèíû (Ðÿçàíñêàÿ îáë.) | | |
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