[q] Àðõèâû Ïîëüøè https://archiwa.gov.pl/en/ Ïîëüñêàÿ ñëóæáà ãåíåàëîãèè Èäèòå ïî ññûëêå >>> Ñïðàâî÷íèêè è Àäðåñ-Êàëåíäàðè Êîðîëåâñòâà Ïîëüñêîãî https://book-olds.ru/BookLibra...skogo.html Ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè - http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/ Ýâàêóèðîâàííûå ïîëÿêè 1943-1946 â Íîâîñèáèðñêóþ, Êåìåðîâñêóþ îáëàñòè è â Àëòàéñêèé êðàé. Àðõèâ Àëòàéñêîãî êðàÿ (ÃÀÀÊ) - http://www.archiv.ab.ru/files/inventory/%D0%A0921-1.pdf[/q]
Ïðîñüáà ê ó÷àñòíèêàì, ðàáîòàþùèì â ðàçäåëå - 1. Íå êîïèðîâàòü ìíîãîñòóïåí÷àòûå äèàëîãè ïðè îòâåòå. Îñòàâëÿéòå òîëüêî òó ÷àñòü, íà êîòîðóþ îòâå÷àåòå. 2. Äëÿ áëàãîäàðíîñòè èñïîëüçóéòå òðè âàðèàíòà - * Ðåéòèíã (+/-) * Ëàéê * Îòçûâ â Ïðîôèëå ó÷àñòíèêà çà ñîîáùåíèå 3. Íå ïèøèòå òåêñòû ñîîáùåíèé òîëüêî áîëüøèìè áóêâàìè. 4. Îáðàùàéòå âíèìàíèå íà íàçâàíèÿ òåì è ðàñøèôðîâêó ïîäòåì ïðè êðåïëåíèå ñâîåãî ïîñòà. 5. Ïðåæäå, ÷åì îòêðûòü íîâóþ òåìó, ïðîëèñòàéòå ðàçäåë. Íå íàäî äóáëèðîâàòü óæå îòêðûòûå òåìû. |
Èùåì ïðåäêîâ è ïîòîìêîâ â Ïîëüøå
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Bielsk Podlaski Polsza Ñîîáùåíèé: 14 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3 | Ââåðõ #
6 îêòÿáðÿ 2004 11:55 CARINA kupalsa potomu czto ozidali wnuczku, jej godik i czetyre miesiaca, ona s nim nie ceremonitsa daze zuby szczitajet Íå î ñåáå òîëüêî êàæäûé çàáîòüñÿ, íî êàæäûé è î äðóãèõ. Ïîñëàíèå ...............
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greek Àôèíû , Ãðåöèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 182 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 63 | Ââåðõ #
6 îêòÿáðÿ 2004 13:34 ars Ñïàñèáî íî íå èìåþ íè÷åãî îáùåãî îñîáåííî ê âåðîèñïîâåäàíèþ. Ïîñìîòðèòå: http://www.polishroots.org/herbarz/lubicz.htm http://www.genealog.home.pl/g.pl?kd=4&hb=0031 à òàêæå ñëåäóþùåå: It is not uncommon to find peasants or Jews bearing the same surnames borne by noble families. Originally surnames were borne only by nobles, and those referring to place names usually indicated the name of the family's estate. Thus when the surname Nielawicki first developed, it would have been a short way of saying "lord of Nielawice." But as surnames spread throughout society, surnames derived from place names gradually changed in meaning. What once meant "lord of Nielawice" came to mean nothing more than "one from Nielawice." By the early 19th century, when Jews were required to take surnames by law, it was simple and easy for them to take obvious, sensible names. If a family came from Nielawice, chances were they would decide to call themselves Nielawicki. That is almost certainly the answer to your question. There is no reason to assume any sort of connection between your Nielawicki family and that of peasants or Jews named Nielawicki. In your family's case the name goes back to the days when the family owned the estate at Nielawice. But as time went on the name came to mean nothing more than "one from Nielawice," and the name no longer indicated anything about the social status of those who bore it. From the name alone there was no way to tell the descendants of noble Nielawickis from the descendants of peasants and Jews who happened to have been born in, or worked at, Nielawice. Obviously the nobles who first bore these surnames were often very angry when peasants and Jews began to bear them. But by then the society had changed to the point that they could no longer do anything to stop it. I hope this is some help to you, and wish you the best of luck with your research. William F. Hoffman Author, _Polish Surnames: Origins & Meanings_ Íàäåþñü ÷òî âñ¸ ÿñíî...
--- íàäëåæèòú âàìú áåðå÷ü îñòàòêè êîðàáëåé, ÿõòú è ãàëåðú; à áóäå îïóñòèòå, òî âçûñêàíî áóäåòú íà âàñú è íà ïîòîìêàõú âàøèõú, ÿêî ïðåíåáðåãøèõú ñåé óêàçú.
ÏÅÒÐ.
Âú Ïåðåÿñëàâëå âî 7-é äåíü ôåâðàëÿ 1722 ãîäà. | | |
| CARINA Vilnius Ñîîáùåíèé: 839 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 83
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6 îêòÿáðÿ 2004 13:47 | | |
greek Àôèíû , Ãðåöèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 182 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 63 | Ââåðõ #
6 îêòÿáðÿ 2004 14:51 CARINA Ñïàñèáî CARINA è ars , äà êîíå÷íî ýòî íàø ãåðá. --- íàäëåæèòú âàìú áåðå÷ü îñòàòêè êîðàáëåé, ÿõòú è ãàëåðú; à áóäå îïóñòèòå, òî âçûñêàíî áóäåòú íà âàñú è íà ïîòîìêàõú âàøèõú, ÿêî ïðåíåáðåãøèõú ñåé óêàçú.
ÏÅÒÐ.
Âú Ïåðåÿñëàâëå âî 7-é äåíü ôåâðàëÿ 1722 ãîäà. | | |
| CARINA Vilnius Ñîîáùåíèé: 839 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 83
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6 îêòÿáðÿ 2004 15:07 greek À âû íå õîòèòå åãî â àâàòàðó âñòàâèòü? Êðàñèâûé êàêîé! | | |
greek Àôèíû , Ãðåöèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 182 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 63 | Ââåðõ #
6 îêòÿáðÿ 2004 16:11 CARINA Ñïàñèáî CARINA , òîëüêî ÿ íå óìåþ ýòî çäåëàòü. Ìîãëè áû ïîìî÷ü? --- íàäëåæèòú âàìú áåðå÷ü îñòàòêè êîðàáëåé, ÿõòú è ãàëåðú; à áóäå îïóñòèòå, òî âçûñêàíî áóäåòú íà âàñú è íà ïîòîìêàõú âàøèõú, ÿêî ïðåíåáðåãøèõú ñåé óêàçú.
ÏÅÒÐ.
Âú Ïåðåÿñëàâëå âî 7-é äåíü ôåâðàëÿ 1722 ãîäà. | | |
| CARINA Vilnius Ñîîáùåíèé: 839 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 83
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6 îêòÿáðÿ 2004 16:20 greek Ìíå ñàìîé ïîìîãàëè, òàì îïðåä. ôîðìàò è àäðåñ èíòåðíåòîâñêèé äîëæåí áûòü, ïðîñèòå Ëþäìèëó. Çàõîäèòü íàäî â ñâîé Ïðîôèëü, íî íå èç ñîîáùåíèÿ, à â òîò, ÷òî íà ñàìîì âåðõó. Òàì ìíîãî ïîçèöèé, îäíà èç íèæíèõ - Çàãðóçèòü çíà÷îê - îòêðûâàåòå è äåëàåòå òî, ÷òî íàïèñàíî. Íî ó ìåíÿ âñå ðàâíî íå ïîëó÷èëîñü. (Ñîîáùåíèå îòðåäàêòèðîâàë CARINA 6 îêò. 2004 15:26) | | |
artÀðòûñåâè÷ Àðñåíèé Èâàíîâè÷  Bielsk Podlaski Ñîîáùåíèé: 1048 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 235 | Ââåðõ #
12 îêòÿáðÿ 2004 12:14 greek hotiel zagruzit twoj gerb kak znaczok no nie poluczjetsa,a mozet u tiebia budiet widni prowier 1087,987,986,988 --- Âñå ìîè è ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ äàííûå ðàçìåùåíû íà ñàéòå äîáðîâîëüíî è ñïåöèàëüíî äëÿ ïîèñêà ðîäñòâåííèêîâ.Âñå ïåðñîíàëüíûå äàííûå î ìîèõ ðîäñòâåííèêàõ è íàøèõ îáùèõ ïðåäêàõ, ïîìåùåííûå íà ýòîò ñàéò, íàéäåíû â Îáùåäîñòóïíûõ aðõèâàõ, â ïå÷àòíûõ ïóáëèêàöèÿõ èëè ïðè | | |
greek Àôèíû , Ãðåöèÿ Ñîîáùåíèé: 182 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 63 | Ââåðõ #
12 îêòÿáðÿ 2004 12:21 art spasibo za pomosch. ja starajus zagruzit s PC znacek kotoryi po jpg no ne vyhodit. ja ne znaiu chto znachit 1087 etc. mozhesh objasnit pozhaluista? --- íàäëåæèòú âàìú áåðå÷ü îñòàòêè êîðàáëåé, ÿõòú è ãàëåðú; à áóäå îïóñòèòå, òî âçûñêàíî áóäåòú íà âàñú è íà ïîòîìêàõú âàøèõú, ÿêî ïðåíåáðåãøèõú ñåé óêàçú.
ÏÅÒÐ.
Âú Ïåðåÿñëàâëå âî 7-é äåíü ôåâðàëÿ 1722 ãîäà. | | |
artÀðòûñåâè÷ Àðñåíèé Èâàíîâè÷  Bielsk Podlaski Ñîîáùåíèé: 1048 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 235 | Ââåðõ #
12 îêòÿáðÿ 2004 20:31 greek mnie zagruzka poluczilas , eti nomiera to nazwania znaczkow, no ich poczemu to niet w spiskie --- Âñå ìîè è ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ äàííûå ðàçìåùåíû íà ñàéòå äîáðîâîëüíî è ñïåöèàëüíî äëÿ ïîèñêà ðîäñòâåííèêîâ.Âñå ïåðñîíàëüíûå äàííûå î ìîèõ ðîäñòâåííèêàõ è íàøèõ îáùèõ ïðåäêàõ, ïîìåùåííûå íà ýòîò ñàéò, íàéäåíû â Îáùåäîñòóïíûõ aðõèâàõ, â ïå÷àòíûõ ïóáëèêàöèÿõ èëè ïðè | | |
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